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- Posted on: Sun, 12/04/2011 - 5:42pm #34190
and1rodman91ParticipantIn my opinion it’s Marquis Teague, he isn’t really a top option on that team they have Davis,MGK,Jones,Miller,and Lamb but right now he doesnt look comfortable out their, its only the 9th game of the year coming up and I think he will be a lot better as the season goes on but as for now not really impressing me as I thought he would.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/04/2011 - 5:58pm #611720

GrandmamaParticipantI’d say both Teague and Mcadoo have both been very unimpressive…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/04/2011 - 6:22pm #611725

knicks4lyfe88Participanthow can it not be lebryan nash? they were talking one and done with him and hes at least 2 years away from being a viable nba prospect. mcadoo is a big and they take generally longer to develop and hes on such a short leash with that stacked team he looks tentative. also turner i mean sheesh!
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/04/2011 - 6:22pm #611726

mbunner23ParticipantAs a huge tarheel fan, it has to be McAdoo. People were talking about him starting over John Henson and that he might be the higest draft pick on the whole team. I’ll be honest I thought he would have an imediate impact like fellow freshman power forwards Brandon Wright, Ed Davis, and Marvin Williams but right now he doesn’t look real good. A lot of time to improve and get better, season just started.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/04/2011 - 6:31pm #611727
and1rodman91Participanti’m gonna be completley honest, I COMPLETLY forgot about Lebryan Nash, i remember seeing him and being like wow he gonna be a one and done easy but I guess since I haven’t heard his name he probably staying at Ok St.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/04/2011 - 6:41pm #611729

cuseflynn10ParticipantHe’s averaging 7 and 6 which is by no means unimpressive. But considering all the hype he had, he should have been putting up numbers like Sullingers last year. I think by the end of the season Drummond will average 12-8. The question is, would a team draft him top 5 in a deep draft if he has an average, average.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/04/2011 - 6:41pm #611730

cuseflynn10ParticipantHe’s averaging 7 and 6 which is by no means unimpressive. But considering all the hype he had, he should have been putting up numbers like Sullingers last year. I think by the end of the season Drummond will average 12-8. The question is, would a team draft him top 5 in a deep draft if he has an average, average.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/04/2011 - 6:59pm #611733

knicks4lyfe88ParticipantDrummond hasnt even started every game and he has that mask shit so i can see why his numbers are down also Uconn guards are more scorers then set up men, they havent shown the ability to feed the post and play inside out.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/04/2011 - 7:11pm #611735

omphalosParticipantJosiah Turner came in as a lottery pick on this site, and has turned out to be an incredibly poor player at the next level despite his height and athleticism.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/04/2011 - 7:16pm #611736

TRC1991Participantjabari brown and sidiki johnson couldnt even last 10 games
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/04/2011 - 8:47pm #611748

SoilworkerParticipantJames Mcadoo
LeBryan Nash
Marquis Teague
Josiah Turner
I can wait for Andre Drummond and Austin Rivers a few weeks more
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 3:44am #611761

BleedingBlueParticipantHow the fuck is Austin Rivers unimpressive? Anyone that watched the game against Ohio State would know he’s one of the best slashers in college basketball.
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- Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 3:39am #611760
tbp82ParticipantIts not that Andre Drummond has been terrible. He’s nothing but a big body. I heard comparisons to Amare Stat and Dwight Howard he’s closer to the current Al Jefferson. I know that the consensus from reading the web is that Antony Davis has separated himself from the pack and is the clear #1 pick but there is still one in particular that is holding on to Drummond as #1 don’t see how.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 4:03am #611765

IndianaBasketballParticipantThe talent is there with this freshman class, but I think it’s going to take a little more time.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 4:09am #611769
NickWayne87Participantbut at some point we’re gonna have to stop making excuses for andre drummond.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 6:30am #611783

omphalosParticipantI think we have to temper expectations with Drummond simply because of the situation he’s in. He’s playing with experienced frontcourt players in Oriakhi among others, and with Napier, Lamb and Boatright now in the fold a lot of the scoring is perimeter oriented. People say he’s a defensive player but that’s the role he’s being asked to play for UConn, and if he sticks around until Lamb bolts for the NBA next season then we’ll see what happens as he becomes more of a focal point in the offense.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 6:33am #611784

iguapops420ParticipantIndiana is right, this class is super talented, just seems like they’re all having trouble with the transition period. They’ll all start coming around by mid-season IMO.
But Teague has not really been unimpressive to me honestly, because he’s actually doing exactly what I expected. Showing a yo-yo handle, elite speed/quickness, and an inability to play as a legit pg. The intangibles are missing.
Nash has been unimpressive, but his game will translate with better guardplay and better decision making. Kind of reminds me of Bill Walker.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 6:49am #611790
B FreeParticipanthttp://www.nbadraft.net/forum/andre-drummond-7 A few of us were having this argument the other day, since you guys are talking about it maybe we can get some more opinions.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 7:57am #611804

juice304ParticipantAgree with Condrin…as unimpressive as guys like Macadoo, Teague, Nash, Drummond, etc. have been at least they are playing and developing. I mean could things have really been that bad that Jabari Brown lasted 2 games? I’ve heard he tore it up on their overseas trip. He would have had a really good chance to lead the team in scoring and get as many shots as he wanted as the season progressed. I just don’t see how the situation was so bad that he gave up after 2 games.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 8:04am #611806

McDunkinAt the same time since we dont yet…and might never…know the whole Jabari Brown story on why he left we cant really call him THE most unimpressive..
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 9:08am #611815

niQParticipantThere was so much hype around him, and I already KNEW he wasn’t a pass-first point guard and he STILL manages to disappoint. I honestly just see him as a chucker at this point.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 10:04am #611820
BwereadyParticipantI agree with the players everyone said me being Tar Heel fan I ded feel Jame Macadoo is not this player they hype him up to be I haven’t seen no game out of him. Hid game makes me think of a Kevin Freeman from that 2000s Uconn chip team. I wanna add two players to this discussion Myck Kanbongo and Brad Beal I watch there games and I still don’t see the hype that was place upon these two players. On this site they have Myck as second Point guard to be taken as of right now that’s a joke. Yes brad beal is avg 17 but I’m talking bout his game and I haven’t seen anything that shows he could be a starting SG that will contruibute. I don’t think their bums just not worthy of some of the hype
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 1:12pm #611861

BleedingBlueParticipantAlso as a Blue Devil fan I nominate Alex Murphy and Marshall Plumlee. Neither has gotten a single minute of playing time in any game and (not because Coach K doesn’t let them play) showed any promising aspect of their game.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 1:46pm #611875

MagikKnickParticipantI would have to say Teague because hes following the line of Calipari guards, Rose, Reke, Wall, Knight, and they all made their dominant impacts on their teams, and hes kinda last fiddle on a stacked Kentucky team
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 2:40pm #611883

Im Your FatherParticipantBleeding Blue…both Murphy and Plumlee are almost guaranteed to redshirt. So obviously they aren’t going to play.
0- Posted on: Tue, 12/06/2011 - 3:04am #611991

BleedingBlueParticipantThere’s a reason that they’re redshirting. I watched the blue-white scrimmage and the couple exhibition games where they did play. And they were plain terrible. Murphy’s handles and finishing suck and his defense is a significant liability to the team due to his lack of strength and quickness at 3 in college. Marshall Plumlee just flat-out isn’t at a D1 player level yet, having nothing but athleticism
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- Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 3:24pm #611890

McDunkinMarshalls high school coach has already said K plans to redshirt him
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 3:47pm #611893

ProudGrandpaParticipantAfter such high expectations, he is only averaging 10.9 PPG with a 37% FG rate at Northern Oklahoma-Enid.
But knowing him, he’ll get better. Maybe even make the NBA…All-Pro team.
After all, he’s Dalen Qualls, and he’s awesome.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/05/2011 - 5:50pm #611925

Dale WorthingtonParticipantMcAdoody
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/06/2011 - 9:20am #612077

Im Your FatherParticipantPlumlee wasn’t particularly good, but Murphey actually played very well in China and showed off some very nice athleticism and ball handling ability. I’m not sure what games you were watching.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/07/2011 - 2:57am #612318

uknationParticipantDrummond-No surprise because he doesn’t have a high motor and he’s a face up big. He wants to shoot jumpers and floaters. The mask is an excuse for some fans (other college players have played with a mask and played well from the word go) Also the stacked team thing is an excuse, T. Robinson looked better on a stacked squad and so did Sully.
McAdoo- another one who isn’t a surprise and another i said isn’t as good as people hyped him to be. He is skilled and a future pro but just like Favors before him the media and MANY people on here once again jumped on the "i put up good numbers in a open gym no defense all star game".
The Reason people mention Teague is the fact that they are comparing him to past UK pg’s. He’s not passing as much as he should be but he’s putting up 10 and 5(Kabongo is averaging 10-6 and less turnovers) which is what most UK fans expected. He’s playing pretty good defense and starting slow like the other UK pg’s did. unlike the UK pg’s before him this team doesn’t need him to score a lot of points they just need him to pass and take care of the ball, he’s slowly learning to do that. He started out turning it over all the time but in the last 5 games he has 22ast to 5 turnovers. He is in line with the usual Cal PG progression
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/07/2011 - 7:55am #612385

JNixonParticipant"Drummond-No surprise because he doesn’t have a high motor and he’s a face up big. He wants to shoot jumpers and floaters. The mask is an excuse for some fans (other college players have played with a mask and played well from the word go) Also the stacked team thing is an excuse, T. Robinson looked better on a stacked squad and so did Sully."
Let me tell you why this point is bad:
Thomas Robinson played 14 mpg last year, put up worse stats than Drummond as a Fr., and doesn’t play C. Center is the position it takes the longest to adjust to. Robinson didn’t look better than Drummond on a loaded team at all, especially at the same stage (their respective Fr. years) when Kansas looked like a sure bet to win the title before losing to Northen Iowa in the 2nd round. Robinson also didnt enroll to KU less than 2 months prior to the season.
Jared Sullinger has an NBA ready post game and a go-to midset already. Ohio State had just lost Evan Turner, who had a monster season before and although they returned everyone else, they didnt have have a go-to scorer. Andre Drummond doesn’t have the mindset or polish to be a go-to player offensively right now. I don’t think anyone expected Drummond to come in and be the Big East POY the way Sullinger was expected to be, especially with Lamb and Napier on the same team.
I think we should continue to wait for him to develop before we consider him a disappointment. He’s a Fr., who’s been playing hurt for a little while, who not as aggressive offensively as he can be, who enrolled in September, AND who’s playing the toughest position to adjust to. And yet and still he’s getting 7 ppg, 6 rpg, 3 bpg and shooting around 50% from the floor in 22 mins. He could be doing much worse considering all the factors.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/07/2011 - 8:13am #612391

Scottoant93ParticipantHonestly this class was so deep you couldn’t expect all of them to dominate right away. I don’t see all the prospects even declaring for this years draft(if they know whats good for them….i doubt some though). I think we should recreate this at mid season and then we can fully decide whos been unimpressive, right now players are still trying to gel with their new team, adapting to the college game, and facing players that are actaully capable of playing D 1 basketball.
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