[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

In the off season, everybody wanted Kevin Durant to win MVP.  As he got off to a slow start, everybody turned to Derrick Rose.  Then the Mavs started winning and Dirk was the favorite.  Amar’e dominted in a 10 game stretch and became the MVP for a while.  But it’s obvious.. there is nobody that can fit the bill but LeBron James.  He’s the best all around player in the NBA and he has improved his defense. He is playing with the IT factor that he has needed in order to win. 

 

Let’s just say it guys, quit saying Amar’e.  Quit saying Rondo.  Quit saying Dwight.  Quit saying Durant.  The only people deserving of the MVP spot is LeBron James or Derrick Rose.  And we all know that LeBron James is the better player.  LeBron James is the MVP of the league.  Who cares what he did this off season.  The NBA is a business.  LeBron worked the NBA and didn’t let the NBA work him.  If anything, he should be admired by NBA players and NBA fans for going against "The Man"

[fastdanParticipant]

Cleveland is ‘The Man’ now? Weird…

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

^ Wow dude.. You really aren’t smart at all.

[omphalosParticipant]

Is that IT factor having Wade and Bosh on his team? I disagree entirely with what you’ve said. The award isn’t "best player" it’s most valuable. If it was the former, Kobe would certainly have more than one of these awards. The fact of the matter is that no matter what Lebron does, so long as Wade and Bosh play 65+ games each Lebron will never be as valuable to his team as players like Rose and Amare are to theirs, and so long as they end up with good records I see no reason why they should be passed up in favour of Lebron. When you consider that Rose has had to go through long stretches without Noah, Boozer and has still improved greatly on last season’s record to be sitting one game behind the Heat, how can you say he doesn’t have the IT factor? In one season off-season he greatly improved his 3-pt shooting, while Lebron was busy playing superfriends. Yes, he shouldn’t be judged for how he carried on in the off-season in so-far as off-court things, but his decision to join the Heat had serious ramifications that make it extremely unlikely he would be a deserving winner of the award.

Lebron should have made a trip to the Finals in the 08-09 season, that Orlando team was inferior. If he had that IT factor he wouldn’t have lost to a team that was clearly outmatched by the Lakers, despite having the league best record.

As far as Lebron "working the NBA", it’s ignorant to praise that. In doing so he diluted the competitiveness of the League as a whole, and has had a negative effect on team loyalty for an entire generation of players, who because of his selfishness are forced to find ways to band together just to compete with such a concentration of talent in one place. He didn’t work the NBA, he destroyed it, and given that we all love the NBA as the best basketball league in the world, it seems a bit stupid to admire him for it.

Wow, this turned into a bit of a rant, but threads like this frustrate me to no end, and I needed to say my piece.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

How many times have you heard the phrase "It’s a business" after a loyal player is traded against their will?  So now that a marquee players does it backwards.. it’s no longer a business and it’s personal?  No.  Isn’t a business about trying to be better than the others?  Isn’t winning about building the best team possible to win?  When you go to the park to play basketball and the best player makes the first shot and gets first captain, does he pick the worst player in order to even it out?  No.  He doesn’t.  He picks the best player because he wants the best chance to win on the courts.

 

Orlando was NOT outmatched by the Lakers.  The series was 4-1.  If you watched the games… Check this out. If Courtney Lee makes that last second alley-oop layup from the inbound, the Magic win that game.. It’s 3-2 Lakers up.  If Jameer Nelson plays defense on Derek Fisher at the 3pt line instead of a couple of feet behind it when Derek hit the pull up game winning 3 pt shot. The Magic win that game too.  Suddenly a 4-1 series for the Lakers turns into a 3-2 series, advantage Magic.  The Orlando Magic were a TEAM whereas the Cavs were a single player’s offensive talents.  Players win games, teams win championships.

 

Now with the Most Valuable Player award.. LeBron is the most valuable on ANY team he would play with.  You can’t tell me that he isn’t..  And the best way to see it, look at the Cavaliers right now, they are 8-35 without LeBron.  WITH LeBron, they won 65+ games with that roster back to back season.  It’s about 50+ games that they’ll win with LeBron… Can’t be any more valuable than that.

[jeff416Participant]

Rose should be the MVP right now. Lebron is the better player, but Rose is more valuable to the Bulls then Lebron is to the Heat. The Bulls have had a lot of injuries and Rose has led them to one of the best records, without him I doubt they would be a playoff team right now. Without Lebron the Heat would still be a playoff team with a good record.

 

Not to mention the Bulls basically have the same record as the Heat, and the Heat have a lot more talent.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

jeff416

 

I wouldn’t have a problem if Derrick Rose won MVP.  Dude has really improved his entire game.  From the offensive standpoint, his jumpshot is fully improved but he is still attacking the basket at will.  On defense, he’s trying really hard and getting a lot better.  And his leadership is almost perfect.  Like I said, the people who I think should win MVP are DRose or LeBron.

[llperez]

i have no problem with lebron winning it. But he hasnt clearly pulled away from the pack and thus its way too early to crown anyone or act like anyone has a big lead for it But lebron is as good a candidate as anyone at this point and might get my vote if i had one.

[omphalosParticipant]

I did watch that series, and in the one game they did win they shot a ridiculous % from the field if I recall correctly. Sure, the game can come down to lots of little moments, especially in the clutch, but the Magic were counting on a rookie to convert a desperation play, which isn’t a sign of a great team. Orlando never looked like winning the series.

I didn’t say Lebron wasn’t the MVP of his own team, but shouldn’t be the MVP of the regular season while with the Heat. Rose is my pick at the moment, but Durant is still leading the league in scoring and has the Thunder at 3rd in the West, a strong finish puts him in strong contention.

I don’t mind if you think Lebron should be MVP, but it’s disrespectful to Dwight, Amare and Rose to say we should quit giving them props for their efforts this season, which have all been somewhat remarkable; Rose is leading an injury plagued Bulls and nailing jumpers, Amare made the Knicks relevant again, and Dwight has improved his offensive repertoire immensely. I already mentioned Durant.

Lost my head a bit there, my bad, just don’t want the quality of the league compromised.

[DanEboyParticipant]

Dwight Howard deserves some serious consideration as well. I think Rose and Howard are the top 2 right now.

[BigDParticipant]

Lebron has to be up there, see how he lead the team to a win over the Raptors, (yes it’s only the Raptors) but without Wade and Bosh, basically just a bunch of role players and he led them to a easy win.

[omphalosParticipant]

Yes, we knew Lebron was capable of leading role players to victories; (see: Cleveland Cavaliers) but if Wade and Bosh play most of the games this season he wouldn’t be doing that very often, and hence not deserve the award.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Last week, I thought Rose should be MVP….but not I’m thinking James is my leading guy to win it.

[mj23mj23besteverParticipant]

d rose has kept the bulls winning with noah and boozer missing significant time this year hes improved every aspect of his game u take him off the bulls and they are the worst team in the nba

[omphalosParticipant]

Bulls when healthy certainly wouldn’t be the worst team in the NBA without Rose, they’d still have Noah, Boozer and Deng, which is more than Cleveland by far.

[Ghost01Participant]

Lebron is the best player.

But the difference in the MVP ballot is this:

30-14. That is the Bulls record. When you look at there injuries, and the lack of depth they have, Rose is a slam dunk for the MVP right now.

[Chicago1980Participant]

I also agree that as of right now it is a 2 man race between D. Rose and L. James they are the 2 players that have been the most consistent I give a slight edge to Rose because his team like someone else stated before would not even be in the playoff hunt without him there.

[iguapops420Participant]

 LBJ can never honestly deserve the MVP with Wade beside him. If LBJ somehow pulls away with the MVP, I will never take the L seriously again. Truely. Blake Griffin truely Deserves it more at this point IMO. And I just had a post pissin and moanin’ at the thought of Blake getting it. No way will the L be fooled by LBJ again by giving him another MVP just to see him flair out come playoffs. Remember Dirk was nearly hanged for losing after getting MVP. And how is it that Kobe consistently stays down these things losing to guys who consistently are on teams with worse records, and worse numbers. Ridiculous. When will we stop allowing LBJ to fool us. The L has become a joke in recent years with their awards IMO. It used to be a REAL achievment to win back to back MVP awards yet we’ve had repeaters 2 out of the past 3. And somehow Kobe was the player in the middle who didn’t even so much as smell back to back MVP’s. Finals MVP’s are what I take more seriously.

[IknoBall12Participant]

Its clearly rose……….no more arguing

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

at this pace, james shouldnt win the mvp again..

i think its rose

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

 Iguapops, do you really not think Lebron deserved his 2 MVPs?

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Guys like iguapops should just be expelled from NBADraft.net.  His post made no sense.. He wants Blake Griffin to win MVP? 

FK OUTTA HERE

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

As of right now, Derrick Rose and LeBron James are the only two candidates deserving of the award. When accounting for the weird and biased way voters, LeBron is taken off as they won’t let him win. Rose will get some but will lose votes in that odd way Chris Paul lost votes because it "wasn’t his time yet" a few years ago. Kobe will still get the votes of people from California because he is Kobe and Amare will get New York votes because their radius for voting is the block around MSG. The ultimate winner will Durant because enough people will see the scoring numbers and the fact that he was the anti-LeBron in staying in Oklahoma City and keep him at the top of their ballot. 

[TyrekeJonesParticipant]

As of now, Rose has been my frontrunner for MVP, he has gone through many games without Boozer or without Noah, both of who are quality players and when they play, make big contributions to winning, Noah will always play tough D and rebound the hell out of the ball while scoring a little bit while Boozer is a legit 20-10 threat, which is a big deal. Rose has gone through games where he literally puts his team on his back and wills them to win, he never complained about injuries and has just won games for his team despite not really having consistency when it comes to who is playing, Deng is solid but very inconsistent, Korver is a dead eye shooter but other then that he brings nothing, Bogans has actually started for them at SG and he is a legit non factor when it comes to offense. Taj Gibson has started for them and while I like him as a player, he is not a starting PF in this league, he is best suited to come off the bench and bring energy and aggression. Now I am not saying the Bulls team is bad, but with the all the injuries they’ve had to two of their best players on their team, Rose has done a phenomenal job to put them in the position of winning that he has right now. He has made his team play better and to his level and that is truly what an MVP does, or any great player for that matter.

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