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  • #25804
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    TRC1991
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    I know we have talked about it before but I wanted to make the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd team as well as honorable mention

    1st team

    PG-Magic Johnson

    SG-Michael Jordan

    SF-Larry Bird

    PF-Tim Duncan

    C-Wilt Chamberlin

     

    2nd Team

    PG-John Stockton

    SG-Kobe Bryant

    SF-Elgin Baylor

    PF-Karl Malone

    C-Kareem Abdul-Jabaar

     

    3rd Team

    PG-Oscar Robertson

    SG-Jerry West

    SF-John Havlicek

    PF-Kevin Garnett

    C-Shaquille O’Neal

     

    honorable mention

    PG-Isaiah Thomas

    PG-Bob Cousy

    SG-Allen Iverson

    SG-Pete Maravich

    SF-LeBron James

    SF-Julius Erving

    PF-Bob Pettit

    PF-Elvin Hayes

    C-Hakeem Olajuwon

    C-Moses Malone

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  • #489014
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    BlueLaces
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    Bill Russell is no where to be found on your list.  Are you kidding me?

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  • #489071
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    BlueLaces
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    Bill Russell is no where to be found on your list.  Are you kidding me?

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  • #489022
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    llperez

    i would go with:

    1st team

    pg-magic johnson
    sg-michael jordan
    sf-lary bird
    pf-tim duncan
    c-kareem abdul-jabaar

    2nd team

    pg-oscar robertson
    sg-kobe bryant
    sf-lebron james
    pf-karl malone
    c-shaqille oneal

    3rd team

    pg-john stockton
    sg-jerry west
    sf-julius erving
    pf-bob petit
    c-wilt chamberlain

    honorable metion: bill russell, hakeem olajuwon, kevin garnett, isiah thomas, john havlicek

    the hardest part is the center position. I mean you can take russell, wilt, kareem, olajuwon and shaq and pretty much pull names from a bag.

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  • #489078
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    llperez

    i would go with:

    1st team

    pg-magic johnson
    sg-michael jordan
    sf-lary bird
    pf-tim duncan
    c-kareem abdul-jabaar

    2nd team

    pg-oscar robertson
    sg-kobe bryant
    sf-lebron james
    pf-karl malone
    c-shaqille oneal

    3rd team

    pg-john stockton
    sg-jerry west
    sf-julius erving
    pf-bob petit
    c-wilt chamberlain

    honorable metion: bill russell, hakeem olajuwon, kevin garnett, isiah thomas, john havlicek

    the hardest part is the center position. I mean you can take russell, wilt, kareem, olajuwon and shaq and pretty much pull names from a bag.

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  • #489028
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    RICO 1981
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    Now after looking at both of your first teams, I guess tim ducan in his prime is better than bill russell in his prime.  I see russell more as a power forward, than a center.  llperez do you think lebron is already all time nba second team  material? 

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  • #489084
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    RICO 1981
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    Now after looking at both of your first teams, I guess tim ducan in his prime is better than bill russell in his prime.  I see russell more as a power forward, than a center.  llperez do you think lebron is already all time nba second team  material? 

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  • #489042
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    ShekiruBoom
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     i think 8 seasons with a career avg of 27-7-7 ball with more in line should be enough for all 2nd team

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  • #489098
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    ShekiruBoom
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     i think 8 seasons with a career avg of 27-7-7 ball with more in line should be enough for all 2nd team

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  • #489047
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    llperez

    i figure people would disagree with lebron being there with just 8 seasons under his belt, but to answer the question, yes i do believe he is the second best sf ever and i wouldnt doubt if he got his third straight mvp award this year which i beleive only jordan and bird did.

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  • #489102
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    llperez

    i figure people would disagree with lebron being there with just 8 seasons under his belt, but to answer the question, yes i do believe he is the second best sf ever and i wouldnt doubt if he got his third straight mvp award this year which i beleive only jordan and bird did.

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  • #489053
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    RICO 1981
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    I guess you are right, lebron is a freak of nature.  I wonder if KD, melo or  D.Rose could ever crack the third team?

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  • #489108
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    RICO 1981
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    I guess you are right, lebron is a freak of nature.  I wonder if KD, melo or  D.Rose could ever crack the third team?

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  • #489065
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    DanEboy
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    Hakeem getting no love…and Barkley

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  • #489120
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    DanEboy
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    Hakeem getting no love…and Barkley

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  • #489073
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    DanEboy
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    This is a topic that will just get argued to death…everyone has their own opinions.

    My personal starting 5 would be…

    PG- Magic Johnson

    SG- Michael Jordan

    SF- Scottie Pippen

    PF- Charles Barkley

    C- Hakeem Olajuwon

    Never saw Wilt, Pettit, Robertson, West or Irving play live.

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  • #489128
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    DanEboy
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    This is a topic that will just get argued to death…everyone has their own opinions.

    My personal starting 5 would be…

    PG- Magic Johnson

    SG- Michael Jordan

    SF- Scottie Pippen

    PF- Charles Barkley

    C- Hakeem Olajuwon

    Never saw Wilt, Pettit, Robertson, West or Irving play live.

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  • #489083
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    llperez

    daneboy, i can see your other 4 choices, but pippen over larry bird?

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  • #489138
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    llperez

    daneboy, i can see your other 4 choices, but pippen over larry bird?

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  • #489085
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    BKKnicksfan
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    Me personally, this is my team

    • Isiah Thomas
    • Micheal Jordan
    • LeBron James
    • Karl Malone
    • Moses Malone

     

    Much respect to Magic, I love Zeke (Even though he almost killed my franchise) and Zeke was a better defender. Jordan is Jordan. LeBron is the best overall SF to touch a basketball, he defends, he can score, he can pass. Karl Malone is a beast and can help Thomas on monster pick and rolls and Moses was a beast, I actually have grainy Moses games from my granddad when he played in Houston. Man was a beast.

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  • #489140
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    BKKnicksfan
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    Me personally, this is my team

    • Isiah Thomas
    • Micheal Jordan
    • LeBron James
    • Karl Malone
    • Moses Malone

     

    Much respect to Magic, I love Zeke (Even though he almost killed my franchise) and Zeke was a better defender. Jordan is Jordan. LeBron is the best overall SF to touch a basketball, he defends, he can score, he can pass. Karl Malone is a beast and can help Thomas on monster pick and rolls and Moses was a beast, I actually have grainy Moses games from my granddad when he played in Houston. Man was a beast.

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  • #489095
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    DanEboy
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    llperez…..I am not saying mine was the best starting 5….just my favorite at each position.

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  • #489150
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    DanEboy
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    llperez…..I am not saying mine was the best starting 5….just my favorite at each position.

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  • #489115
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    Maysek22
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    This is with players in their absolute prime 

    1st team

    pg magic

    sg jordan

    sf bird

    pf duncan

    c shaq

    2nd team

    pg stockton

    sg kobe

    sf james

    pf barkley

    c chamberlain

    3rd team 

    pg  maravich

    sg oscar robinson

    sf pippin

    pf garnett

    C dream

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  • #489169
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    Maysek22
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    This is with players in their absolute prime 

    1st team

    pg magic

    sg jordan

    sf bird

    pf duncan

    c shaq

    2nd team

    pg stockton

    sg kobe

    sf james

    pf barkley

    c chamberlain

    3rd team 

    pg  maravich

    sg oscar robinson

    sf pippin

    pf garnett

    C dream

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  • #489243
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    ballaj334
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    Might get some slack but explanations on why i put some guys where

     

    First Team:

    Pg: Oscar Robertson- could be greatest player of all time

    Sg: Michael Jordan- IS there even reason to explain lol

    Sf: Julius Irving- Was the beginning of the new era changed basketball and kept aba afloat for years

    Pf: Tim Duncan- The most fundamental player in nba history

    C: Bill Russel- Winningest player greatest leader of all time

    Second Team:

    Pg: Magic Johnson

    Sg: Kobe Bryant

    Sf: Larry Bird

    Pf: Karl Malone

    C: Kareem Abdul Jabbar

    Third Team:

    Pg: John Stockton-

    Sg:Jerry West-

    Sf: Lebron James-

    Pf: Bob Pettite-

    C: Shaq- Shaq gets nod over chamberlain due to rings

     

    HONORABLE MENTION: KG, Wade, Kidd, Thomas, Wilt, Barkley

     

     

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  • #489297
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    ballaj334
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    Might get some slack but explanations on why i put some guys where

     

    First Team:

    Pg: Oscar Robertson- could be greatest player of all time

    Sg: Michael Jordan- IS there even reason to explain lol

    Sf: Julius Irving- Was the beginning of the new era changed basketball and kept aba afloat for years

    Pf: Tim Duncan- The most fundamental player in nba history

    C: Bill Russel- Winningest player greatest leader of all time

    Second Team:

    Pg: Magic Johnson

    Sg: Kobe Bryant

    Sf: Larry Bird

    Pf: Karl Malone

    C: Kareem Abdul Jabbar

    Third Team:

    Pg: John Stockton-

    Sg:Jerry West-

    Sf: Lebron James-

    Pf: Bob Pettite-

    C: Shaq- Shaq gets nod over chamberlain due to rings

     

    HONORABLE MENTION: KG, Wade, Kidd, Thomas, Wilt, Barkley

     

     

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  • #489249
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    inukawaii8
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     1st team

    pg: magic johnson
    sg: michael jordan
    sf: lary bird
    pf: tim duncan
    c: wilt chamberlin

    2nd team

    pg: oscar robertson
    sg: kobe bryant
    sf: elgin baylor

    pf: bill russell 
    c: kareem abdul-jabaar

    3rd team

    pg: john stockton
    sg: jerry west
    sf: lebron james
    pf: karl malone
    c: shaquille oneal 

    honorable mention

    pg: isiah thomas  

    sg: pete maravich
    sf: julius erving
    pf: bob pettt
    c: the dream 

     

     

     

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  • #489304
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    inukawaii8
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     1st team

    pg: magic johnson
    sg: michael jordan
    sf: lary bird
    pf: tim duncan
    c: wilt chamberlin

    2nd team

    pg: oscar robertson
    sg: kobe bryant
    sf: elgin baylor

    pf: bill russell 
    c: kareem abdul-jabaar

    3rd team

    pg: john stockton
    sg: jerry west
    sf: lebron james
    pf: karl malone
    c: shaquille oneal 

    honorable mention

    pg: isiah thomas  

    sg: pete maravich
    sf: julius erving
    pf: bob pettt
    c: the dream 

     

     

     

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  • #489303
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    NYK2010
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    Most of these lists are right on, except Lebron and Shaq aren’t ahead of Larry Bird and Olajuwon.

    How can Barkley be ahead of Duncan, even Barkley says Duncan is the greatest PF of all time.

    1st team

    PG: Magic Johnson
    SG: Michael Jordan
    SF: Larry Bird
    PF: Tim Duncan
    C: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

    2nd team

    PG: Oscar Robertson
    SG: Kobe Bryant
    SF: Elgin Baylor

    PF: Bill Russell
    C: Wilt Chamberlian

    3rd team

    PG: Isiah Thomas
    SG: Jerry West
    SF: Lebron James
    PF: Moses Malone
    C: Hakeem Olajuwon

    honorable mention

    PG: Jason Kidd

    SG: Pete Maravich
    SF: Dominque Wilkins
    PF: Karl Malone
    C: Shaquille O’neal

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  • #489357
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    NYK2010
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    Most of these lists are right on, except Lebron and Shaq aren’t ahead of Larry Bird and Olajuwon.

    How can Barkley be ahead of Duncan, even Barkley says Duncan is the greatest PF of all time.

    1st team

    PG: Magic Johnson
    SG: Michael Jordan
    SF: Larry Bird
    PF: Tim Duncan
    C: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

    2nd team

    PG: Oscar Robertson
    SG: Kobe Bryant
    SF: Elgin Baylor

    PF: Bill Russell
    C: Wilt Chamberlian

    3rd team

    PG: Isiah Thomas
    SG: Jerry West
    SF: Lebron James
    PF: Moses Malone
    C: Hakeem Olajuwon

    honorable mention

    PG: Jason Kidd

    SG: Pete Maravich
    SF: Dominque Wilkins
    PF: Karl Malone
    C: Shaquille O’neal

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  • #489400
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    iguapops420
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    I personally would have J at the 3 and have :

    Magic

    Kobe

    Mike

    Duncan

    Russell

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    And yes, I too agree LBJ is the second best SF of all time, and I don’t think it should be debatable. His numbers and in game impact are just too much to snub. Name any other SF aside from Bird who change the game when they play better than LBJ. Even Julius couldn’t handle Bron.

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  • #489453
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    iguapops420
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    I personally would have J at the 3 and have :

    Magic

    Kobe

    Mike

    Duncan

    Russell

    —–

    And yes, I too agree LBJ is the second best SF of all time, and I don’t think it should be debatable. His numbers and in game impact are just too much to snub. Name any other SF aside from Bird who change the game when they play better than LBJ. Even Julius couldn’t handle Bron.

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  • #489412
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    To me this is how it goes:

    The Infancy: These were the greats within the first 20 years of the league guys who dominated when the style of player was barely comparable to today’s game and the rules were different as well.

    PG Oscar Robertson (Bob Cousy comes in a very respectable second)

    SG Jerry West

    SF Elgin Baylor (just edging out John Havlicek)

    PF Bob Petit

    C Bill Russell (it’s such an ongoing debate between him and Chamberlain)

     

    The NBA vs the ABA: These were the transition years for professional basketball and the time when athleticism and razzle dazzle began to shine. Popularity of the game started to increase along with the entertainment value.

    PG Walt Frazier

    SG George Gervin

    SF Julius Erving

    PF Elvin Hayes

    C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

     

    The "Modern" Era:

    PG Magic Johnson

    SG Michael Jordan

    SF Larry Bird

    PF Tim Duncan

    C Hakeem Olajuwon

     

    Honestly it’s just getting to the point where I can’t compare players from different eras. 

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  • #489464
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    To me this is how it goes:

    The Infancy: These were the greats within the first 20 years of the league guys who dominated when the style of player was barely comparable to today’s game and the rules were different as well.

    PG Oscar Robertson (Bob Cousy comes in a very respectable second)

    SG Jerry West

    SF Elgin Baylor (just edging out John Havlicek)

    PF Bob Petit

    C Bill Russell (it’s such an ongoing debate between him and Chamberlain)

     

    The NBA vs the ABA: These were the transition years for professional basketball and the time when athleticism and razzle dazzle began to shine. Popularity of the game started to increase along with the entertainment value.

    PG Walt Frazier

    SG George Gervin

    SF Julius Erving

    PF Elvin Hayes

    C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

     

    The "Modern" Era:

    PG Magic Johnson

    SG Michael Jordan

    SF Larry Bird

    PF Tim Duncan

    C Hakeem Olajuwon

     

    Honestly it’s just getting to the point where I can’t compare players from different eras. 

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  • #489418
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    omphalos
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    I’d probably put Irving or Pippen above Lebron for second team until Lebron wins some titles. Pip played with Jordan yes, but he was such a dominant defender and versatile player. Plus, as was pointed out in another thread, he doesn’t dominate the ball like Lebron does. My list would be something like…

    1st Team:

    Coach: Phil Jackson

    PG – Magic
    SG – Jordan
    SF – Bird
    PF – Duncan
    C – Russell

    2nd Team:

    Coach: Red Auerbach

    PG: Oscar Robertson
    SG: Kobe Bryant
    SF: Pippen
    PF: Karl Malone
    C: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

    3rd Team:

    Coach: Popovich

    PG: Isaiah Thomas
    SG: Jerry West
    SF: Lebron James
    PF: Charles Barkley
    C: Hakeem Olajuwon

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  • #489471
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    omphalos
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    I’d probably put Irving or Pippen above Lebron for second team until Lebron wins some titles. Pip played with Jordan yes, but he was such a dominant defender and versatile player. Plus, as was pointed out in another thread, he doesn’t dominate the ball like Lebron does. My list would be something like…

    1st Team:

    Coach: Phil Jackson

    PG – Magic
    SG – Jordan
    SF – Bird
    PF – Duncan
    C – Russell

    2nd Team:

    Coach: Red Auerbach

    PG: Oscar Robertson
    SG: Kobe Bryant
    SF: Pippen
    PF: Karl Malone
    C: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

    3rd Team:

    Coach: Popovich

    PG: Isaiah Thomas
    SG: Jerry West
    SF: Lebron James
    PF: Charles Barkley
    C: Hakeem Olajuwon

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