NBA Basketball: Better Rookie Year Jonas Valanciunas or Donatas Motiejunas?
Which Lithuanian Rookie who were both selected in the 2011 Draft will have the better rookie season? Who is more NBA Ready? Who has more Potential and who do you see being the better player in the future?
I'm expecting a much better year statistically from Motie than Jonas. Motie's offensive game is ar more refined and has even extended his range quite nicely. I'm expecting somewhere between Pau Gasol and Yao Ming's rookie years out of Motie. The range of 15 and 7. Jonas will develop slowly over the year as he gains more experience and adjusts to the NBA level speed and physicality. I'd say somewhere between Marc Gasol and Tiago Splitter's rookie years from the lost Jonas brother. My guess will be something like 8 and 6, but will progressively develop into a good defender/rebounder by the end of year one.
I think Jonas Valaciunas has one big advantage that Motiejunas won't have this year...a lack of competition for playing time. Unless he really struggles he'll be the start center and will get a lot of opportunities to play through his struggles. Motiejunas will be in constant competition for playing time because the Rockets have so many young big men. At the PF and C position the Rockets have Asik, Patterson, Royce White, Terrence Jones, and Jajuan Johnson.
I have only seen Motiejunas play in summer league and I haven't seen Valaciunas play at all so I can't confidently make a prediction who'll be better in the long run.
Jonas all the way. No way motie is going to average 7 boards in the western conference. He barely averaged 3 in the summer league
Donatas Motiejunas summer league averages were 16.3ppg and 7.8rpg.
lakeshow how do you have -101 points lol
SPL says literally nothing to me, but seeing his 16 and 8 averages shows hes a better rebounder than you say with his "3" rebounds. But to me, that doesn't matter. Nick Van Exel played like pure garbage in SPL and didn't even expect to make the NBA and then went to be a top 10 PG over his time as a Laker.
To me, Motie doesn't really have that much competition at the 5 which is where I see him playing. Asik is no starter and will quickly show that to the Rockets. And I sincerely doubt Motie starts for Tor as Amir is being payed 5+ a year so I expect him to still start(less minutes I'm sure) and Ed Davis to still get his near 20 MPG a game. I could see neither having very good rookie years, but IMO, Motie's advanced offensive game will earn him a starting spot before the year is over and he will develop nicely. Remember, Gasol was also not expected to start as early as he did with all of the bigmen that he was competing for minutes against that year.
Neg me all you want, but my opinion stands.
Just because you are seven foot tall doesn't make you able to play center, monti would get pushed around and give up offensive rebounds every play. He can't rebound well enough for a 4 and you want him at the 5? Your opinon is to drunk to stand.
Summer League numbers really mean nothing in my opinion as well. I just don't like when someone outright lies about a fact. I was just showing some facts to counteract his gross exaggeration.
I liked Motiejunas's versatility that I saw in summer league. He's quick and pretty athletic. He can shoot pretty well, he passes well, and he hits the boards hard. I watch summer league more to gain a better idea of a guys habits and how hard he plays. I saw Motiejunas definitely works hard and that should benefit him over time.
I think Motiejunas will have the better rookie season by a long shot, he's got a great big-man coach in McHale, a polished offensive game already, and the opportunity to oust Asik relatively easily as a starter.
Valanciunas will be a defensive player for most of his career, after seeing him play in the Olympics I don't see a whole lot of offensive upside, he has pretty bad hands and just poor touch around the basket. Although he's a great player to have for certain teams (like Toronto with Bargnani), I still like Motiejunas more, and have said from day 1 that he's vastly underrated.
Valentciunas is still very young. Can't judge his offensive game too much from one Olympic tournament. He will develope this part of his game.
I would say Motiejunas is a little more NBA ready right now, but Valenciunas will get much more playing time and has a much brighter NBA future as a classic Big Man.
If you are going by numbers this year I'd go with Valenciunas. If you are looking at polish - Montiejunas.
I'm going to go with Motiejunas on this one. I haven't seen Jonas play all that much and what I've seen from Motiejunas is really exciting. He has a great well rounded game and can score from anywhere. Won't be a great defensive threat, or much of a rebounding presense but he will affect the game a lot with his respectable jumper out to the 3p line, athleticism and finesse operating in the post...
Easily Valanciunas. Motie has alot of concerns Valanciunas does not have such as his ego/maturity, rebounding, strength, defence, effort and how his play translates to the Houston Rockets not to mention alot of talented forwards to compete with. Valanciunas does not have alot of these issues. Offensively the Raptors can hide his weaknesses which would be his abillity to create shots offensively in the post or in face up situations. They have already built the offense around him well and proven they will use him to his strengths which are setting picks, screens, diving hard to the basket and finishing well with lobs and his good touch near the rim. The only issues would be Valanciunas decision making passing out of pressure when picking up his dribble or denied an open jumpshot which is an issue for most young bigs. Defensively Vals eagerness to make big plays and make sure the opponents earn every basket will get him ibto alot of foul trouble but his body looks like its big enough to bang with Centers in the east at this point and as his anticipation improves I dont think he will be a foul liability.
At the end of the day Valanciunas will only help his team on both enda of the floor even if he does foul out of every game, and if he does foul at a high rate at least hes doing something to stop the player hes gaurding. You can gaurantee throughout Vals career he will only play to his strengths in a fundimental fashion and also playing very hatd, focused and CONSISTANT on both ends.
Motie has a great skillset but after watching his cocky interview from his first summer league game which he followed up with a horrible performance Im not a huge fan. Consistancy is key in any production/performance based enviroment you cant glorify someone that averages 15ppg if he scores 30ppg in half his games and 0ppg the other half. I expect Motie to be very inconsistant.
I don't think you can put much stock into Valanciunas' olympic performance. We knew that his playing time would likely be limited, as the coach was planning on going with older players in his rotation. I believe he averaged about 10 minutes per game. And from what I understand, this was a big reason why Motiejunas declined to play for Lithuania in the olympics. He knew he would get much more playing time and development skipping it and playing summer league.
But judging a 20 year old from 10 minutes per game in a short sample of games in high quality play such as the olympics isn't a very useful tool, IMO.
As for their rookie season productions, I think they both will contribute, but I'm not expecting too much from either. I have to agree with those who believe that Valanciunas will receive more opportunites to start and play through his struggles. Simply looking at the rosters should give you this insight.
That being said, Montiejunas could play lights out and end up the starting PF. I don't think he fits the center position as well, though. And Montiejunas is 2 years older than Valanciunas and certainly has the more polished offensive game.
They're pretty different players, so it's hard to guess who will be the 'better' player in the long run. I like both, and think both can have excellent careers.
Valanciunas is going to be way better.