NBA Conspiracy?

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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:06am #54915

The8thDeadlySin
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Would it be a a set up if the draft lottery looks like this:
1. Bucks
2. Celtics
3. Lakers
Bucks would take Embiid because Sanders has started falling apart.
That would leave the most historic rivalry to draft great players at the same position to pit against each other for the next 10 years and possibly revive the rivalry.
Pair Parker with Rondo and company and that rebuilding process looks great. Wiggins with Kobe and company looks great for headlines.
Something to think about..
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:10am #890399

Andrew1984
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Who really shot Kennedy?! Was the moon landing staged?! What are the Illuminati really up to?! Area 51?!
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:10am #890288

Andrew1984
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Who really shot Kennedy?! Was the moon landing staged?! What are the Illuminati really up to?! Area 51?!
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- Posted on: Sun, 04/20/2014 - 3:38pm #891408
  
  ProudGrandpa
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  How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll pop? I want answers.
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- Posted on: Sun, 04/20/2014 - 3:38pm #891298
  
  ProudGrandpa
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  How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll pop? I want answers.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:13am #890401

Lotto Stud
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Utah will end up in the Top 3 slated at #2 come May 20th.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:13am #890290

Lotto Stud
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Utah will end up in the Top 3 slated at #2 come May 20th.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 8:08am #890431
  
  For_Never_Ever
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  Rudy Gobert can play.
  I think he should become a starter. I’m not sure over who, but he is a mobile and nimble shot blocker compared to the other two guys.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 8:08am #890319
  
  For_Never_Ever
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  Rudy Gobert can play.
  I think he should become a starter. I’m not sure over who, but he is a mobile and nimble shot blocker compared to the other two guys.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 4:35pm #890632
    
    For_Never_Ever
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    I meant unlike to the other two guys.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 4:35pm #890522
    
    For_Never_Ever
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    I meant unlike to the other two guys.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 8:30pm #890650
  
  ItsVictorOladipo
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  Lol, and everyone will say the conspiracy is alive because Salt Lake City will somehow end up with Mormon future star Jabari Parker.
  Let’s look at the ten teams with the worst record in the league this year:
  If LA or Boston end up with a top pick everybody will yell conspiracy because they are the two most historically dominant franchises in NBA history and are large markets.
  If Utah gets a pick high enough to get Jabari Parker everybody will say that the Mormon connection is in effect.
  If Sac gets the top pick people will say it’s because the franchise is about to move and the league wants a premium superstar in a new city (like Durant from Seattle to OKC).
  If Detroit or Philly get the top pick people will say that the league is helping out two struggling franchises that have historically had success and are currently going through a rough patch.
  If New Orleans, Cleveland or Orlando end up with the top pick people will say the league is still trying to compensate them for losing three of the best players in the league in the last few years.
  And If Milwaukee, the team with the best chance of the #1 pick, gets the first pick overall I’m sure at least some tin-foil hat wearers will proclaim that it’s because the franchise was just sold and that the league promised the new owner the top pick as part of his buy in.
  No matter who gets a top 3 pick, the conspiracy theorists will have something to talk about around the water cooler.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 8:30pm #890540
  
  ItsVictorOladipo
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  Lol, and everyone will say the conspiracy is alive because Salt Lake City will somehow end up with Mormon future star Jabari Parker.
  Let’s look at the ten teams with the worst record in the league this year:
  If LA or Boston end up with a top pick everybody will yell conspiracy because they are the two most historically dominant franchises in NBA history and are large markets.
  If Utah gets a pick high enough to get Jabari Parker everybody will say that the Mormon connection is in effect.
  If Sac gets the top pick people will say it’s because the franchise is about to move and the league wants a premium superstar in a new city (like Durant from Seattle to OKC).
  If Detroit or Philly get the top pick people will say that the league is helping out two struggling franchises that have historically had success and are currently going through a rough patch.
  If New Orleans, Cleveland or Orlando end up with the top pick people will say the league is still trying to compensate them for losing three of the best players in the league in the last few years.
  And If Milwaukee, the team with the best chance of the #1 pick, gets the first pick overall I’m sure at least some tin-foil hat wearers will proclaim that it’s because the franchise was just sold and that the league promised the new owner the top pick as part of his buy in.
  No matter who gets a top 3 pick, the conspiracy theorists will have something to talk about around the water cooler.
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  - Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 2:37am #890683
    
    Lotto Stud
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    Yesterday I was going to post a thread specifically about what you are bringing to the light, but I did not want to override this thread.
    I agree to the fullest that no matter who ends up with the Top 3 selections no one will be happy.
    
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  - Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 2:37am #890572
    
    Lotto Stud
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    Yesterday I was going to post a thread specifically about what you are bringing to the light, but I did not want to override this thread.
    I agree to the fullest that no matter who ends up with the Top 3 selections no one will be happy.
    
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:18am #890407

Memphis Madness
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Then at 4 and 10 the Sixers go with Julius Randle to pair with Nerlens inside then James Young to pair with MCW in the backcourt. That would be a great core.
They could also go small with MCW, Wroten, Young, Randle, and Noel.
The Sixers could end up winning the draft.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:18am #890295

Memphis Madness
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Then at 4 and 10 the Sixers go with Julius Randle to pair with Nerlens inside then James Young to pair with MCW in the backcourt. That would be a great core.
They could also go small with MCW, Wroten, Young, Randle, and Noel.
The Sixers could end up winning the draft.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:27am #890413

For_Never_Ever
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I will really believe it is rigged if the Lakers get up to the third pick.
If I was the Bucks GM I’ll go with Andrew Wiggens to team up with the Greek Freak. I just wouldn’t risk it with Embid back.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:27am #890301

For_Never_Ever
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I will really believe it is rigged if the Lakers get up to the third pick.
If I was the Bucks GM I’ll go with Andrew Wiggens to team up with the Greek Freak. I just wouldn’t risk it with Embid back.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:31am #890415
  
  Lotto Stud
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  I absolutely love the thought of Wiggins playing the 2 especially next to Giannis.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:31am #890303
  
  Lotto Stud
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  I absolutely love the thought of Wiggins playing the 2 especially next to Giannis.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:35am #890417
    
    For_Never_Ever
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    These two together would be the best defensive duo in the league with that length and athleticism.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:35am #890305
    
    For_Never_Ever
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    These two together would be the best defensive duo in the league with that length and athleticism.
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    - Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 2:44pm #890500
      
      JoeWolf1
      In a couple years, potentially he longest starting five ever.
      Knight – 6’7”
      Wiggins – 7′ wingspan
      Giannis – 7’3”
      Henson – 7’5” wingspan
      Sanders – 7’6.5” wingspan
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    - Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 2:44pm #890611
      
      JoeWolf1
      In a couple years, potentially he longest starting five ever.
      Knight – 6’7”
      Wiggins – 7′ wingspan
      Giannis – 7’3”
      Henson – 7’5” wingspan
      Sanders – 7’6.5” wingspan
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 8:30am #890441
  
  Magic Jordan
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  Well the Bucks have a 25% chance to get the 1st pick, the Lakers have a 20% chance to get a top 3 pick. So if the Bucks win the first pick is it rigged? 5% difference is reasonably small to scale.
  It’s essentially a Josh Smith 3 pointer for the bucks 1st pick.
  Or a Tony Wrotten 3 pointer for the Lakers top 3 pick?
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 8:30am #890329
  
  Magic Jordan
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  Well the Bucks have a 25% chance to get the 1st pick, the Lakers have a 20% chance to get a top 3 pick. So if the Bucks win the first pick is it rigged? 5% difference is reasonably small to scale.
  It’s essentially a Josh Smith 3 pointer for the bucks 1st pick.
  Or a Tony Wrotten 3 pointer for the Lakers top 3 pick?
  
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:36am #890419

RUDEBOY_
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It would be a conspiracy if the Suns get the 1st pick….A slap in the face to those teams that TANKED!!! lol
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:36am #890307

RUDEBOY_
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It would be a conspiracy if the Suns get the 1st pick….A slap in the face to those teams that TANKED!!! lol
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:57am #890425
  
  Scrooge McDuck
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  The Suns deserve it
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:57am #890313
  
  Scrooge McDuck
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  The Suns deserve it
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:25am #890438
  
  XYRYX
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  Yeah like the Bulls D-Rose draft back than. That would be kind of great but also another rebuild of big market teams while spreading that small market teams are always can compete easily. Miami, San Antonio or OKC aren’t really struggeling beeing top in merchandise either. It’s not Lakers or Celtics Territory but still not to shabby.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:25am #890549
  
  XYRYX
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  Yeah like the Bulls D-Rose draft back than. That would be kind of great but also another rebuild of big market teams while spreading that small market teams are always can compete easily. Miami, San Antonio or OKC aren’t really struggeling beeing top in merchandise either. It’s not Lakers or Celtics Territory but still not to shabby.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 4:05pm #890624
  
  bigheavy
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  I would love to see that happen…
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 4:05pm #890514
  
  bigheavy
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  I would love to see that happen…
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 9:20am #890473

fito91
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I could be wrong, but I believe the lottery is rigged. The NBA is a business, and they are going to put themselves in a position to make the most money. I doubt big market teams like the Lakers or Celtics will win the lottery, but I think they’ll end up higher than where they currently are slotted to pick. It’s bad for business having big market teams like the Lakers and Celtics perform so poorly. Silver will do what he can to get them back on the right track as fast as possible and putting them in position to draft Wiggins, Parker, or Embiid is a good start.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if what The8thdeadlysin says happens. A Wiggins vs Parker rivalry would be big time for the NBA. However, if the Bucks land the first pick I don’t see them passing on Wiggins or Parker. They still seem to be committed to Sanders, although with the new ownership that could change.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 9:20am #890362

fito91
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I could be wrong, but I believe the lottery is rigged. The NBA is a business, and they are going to put themselves in a position to make the most money. I doubt big market teams like the Lakers or Celtics will win the lottery, but I think they’ll end up higher than where they currently are slotted to pick. It’s bad for business having big market teams like the Lakers and Celtics perform so poorly. Silver will do what he can to get them back on the right track as fast as possible and putting them in position to draft Wiggins, Parker, or Embiid is a good start.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if what The8thdeadlysin says happens. A Wiggins vs Parker rivalry would be big time for the NBA. However, if the Bucks land the first pick I don’t see them passing on Wiggins or Parker. They still seem to be committed to Sanders, although with the new ownership that could change.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 9:32am #890370
  
  fito91
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  Also, I’ve always found it kind of shady how they do the lottery behind closed doors. Why not do it on stage for everyone to see?
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  - Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:22am #890386
    
    Magic Jordan
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    Because it’s not as simple as just picking balls. Would you really want to watch a few dudes sit at a table for hours listing off the combinations of balls that are disperesed. It’s not just a one time thing where whatever balls comes out is it. It’s a process that takes place over a couple of hours which is determined by which combinations show up the most, not just are picked.
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    - Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:26am #890390
      
      fito91
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      Touché
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    - Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:26am #890501
      
      fito91
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      Touché
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  - Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:22am #890497
    
    Magic Jordan
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    Because it’s not as simple as just picking balls. Would you really want to watch a few dudes sit at a table for hours listing off the combinations of balls that are disperesed. It’s not just a one time thing where whatever balls comes out is it. It’s a process that takes place over a couple of hours which is determined by which combinations show up the most, not just are picked.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 9:32am #890481
  
  fito91
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  Also, I’ve always found it kind of shady how they do the lottery behind closed doors. Why not do it on stage for everyone to see?
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 9:52am #890378

Robb_C
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Tin foil hats for everyone.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 9:52am #890489

Robb_C
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Tin foil hats for everyone.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:31am #890392

coachLS
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1 wiggins
2embid
3 Parker

embid is the next Sam Bowie and Darko millicic in 5 years we all will be saying the same thing
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:31am #890503

coachLS
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1 wiggins
2embid
3 Parker

embid is the next Sam Bowie and Darko millicic in 5 years we all will be saying the same thing
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:41am #890400

PhillytheKid
Embiid is Olajuwon.
Parker is Sam Bowie.
Wiggins is MJ

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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:51am #890414
  
  fito91
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  C’mon lol that’s a bit harsh on Jabari. His floor is a starter that’ll score between 15-20 a night
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:51am #890525
  
  fito91
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  C’mon lol that’s a bit harsh on Jabari. His floor is a starter that’ll score between 15-20 a night
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- Posted on: Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:50am #891234
  
  coachLS
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  You and everyone that thinks that is clueless this is a guard and stretch forward league and embody is just all hype he’s ugly anyways
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- Posted on: Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:50am #891345
  
  coachLS
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  You and everyone that thinks that is clueless this is a guard and stretch forward league and embody is just all hype he’s ugly anyways
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:41am #890511

PhillytheKid
Embiid is Olajuwon.
Parker is Sam Bowie.
Wiggins is MJ

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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 12:59pm #890476

burgessfour
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Surprise anyone if the Lakers & Celtics ended up with picks 1 & 2 ?
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 1:05pm #890480
  
  Lotto Stud
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  Livid.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 1:05pm #890591
  
  Lotto Stud
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  Livid.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 12:59pm #890587

burgessfour
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Surprise anyone if the Lakers & Celtics ended up with picks 1 & 2 ?
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 1:36pm #890488

Kevin6CD
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a thousand times. When will you people just go away? The draft isn’t rigged, find something else to do.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 1:36pm #890598

Kevin6CD
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a thousand times. When will you people just go away? The draft isn’t rigged, find something else to do.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 1:44pm #890492

3 No Biases 3
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Thank you. Would smaller market franchise owners be OK with a rigged lottery that is designed to screw them??? Use your heads people.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 1:44pm #890602

3 No Biases 3
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Thank you. Would smaller market franchise owners be OK with a rigged lottery that is designed to screw them??? Use your heads people.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:20pm #890646

The8thDeadlySin
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Im getting hate for asking a question? LoL. You people have always gotten your panties in a wad over stupid stuff but simply asking a question?
This is a place for dicussion and thats what i was looking for.
Take a step back and admit that if it turns our like in my scinero, everyone in the basketball community will wonder, publicly or secretly, if it was quietly fixed..
Think about this. For the first time in NBA history, the. Knicks, Celtics, and Lakers will all miss the playoffs. Argue small market all you want but everyone knows the NBA thrives when these teams are good. If i am the commish and my livelihood depends a lot on big market teams having marketable players, it would cross my mind to make sure they got one or 2 on their team…
I have never said it was fixed. I dont think its rigged.. But if they end up in the top 3, i will he scratching my head and looking around the room for answers..
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 7:20pm #890536

The8thDeadlySin
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Im getting hate for asking a question? LoL. You people have always gotten your panties in a wad over stupid stuff but simply asking a question?
This is a place for dicussion and thats what i was looking for.
Take a step back and admit that if it turns our like in my scinero, everyone in the basketball community will wonder, publicly or secretly, if it was quietly fixed..
Think about this. For the first time in NBA history, the. Knicks, Celtics, and Lakers will all miss the playoffs. Argue small market all you want but everyone knows the NBA thrives when these teams are good. If i am the commish and my livelihood depends a lot on big market teams having marketable players, it would cross my mind to make sure they got one or 2 on their team…
I have never said it was fixed. I dont think its rigged.. But if they end up in the top 3, i will he scratching my head and looking around the room for answers..
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:40pm #890662
  
  Land of Grant
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  Exactly it’s about discussion. We don’t have proof that it isn’t rigged, we probably never will. Having said that, it probably isn’t rigged.
  Just an interesting thing to talk about.
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:40pm #890552
  
  Land of Grant
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  Exactly it’s about discussion. We don’t have proof that it isn’t rigged, we probably never will. Having said that, it probably isn’t rigged.
  Just an interesting thing to talk about.
  
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:56pm #890673

Calling Out The Clowns
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Calling Out The Clowns
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Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 3:05am #890685

Hitster
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If the Lakers did get the top pick everyone would shout conspiracy but they could easily move up into the top 3 as could Boston, Utah, Detroit etc.
I honestly believe the draft lottery is legit but I still think the NBA would save a lot of problems by showing the actual draft lottery picks procedure fully live.
From my perspective as a Phoenix fan I’d loe us to move up but I know that is unlikely. My ideal lottery scenario would be for Philly and Bucks to stay in the top 3 and another random team to move up.
Orlando would only drop to 4 and already have some decent young talent and good picks due. The Lakers moving up would be fun to see how their draft process evolves, Detroit haven’t had a top 3 pick since you know who and have been in draft lottery for several years so are due some luck in the lottery and keeping their pick from Charlotte could be the bit of luck they need.

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Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 3:05am #890574

Hitster
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If the Lakers did get the top pick everyone would shout conspiracy but they could easily move up into the top 3 as could Boston, Utah, Detroit etc.
I honestly believe the draft lottery is legit but I still think the NBA would save a lot of problems by showing the actual draft lottery picks procedure fully live.
From my perspective as a Phoenix fan I’d loe us to move up but I know that is unlikely. My ideal lottery scenario would be for Philly and Bucks to stay in the top 3 and another random team to move up.
Orlando would only drop to 4 and already have some decent young talent and good picks due. The Lakers moving up would be fun to see how their draft process evolves, Detroit haven’t had a top 3 pick since you know who and have been in draft lottery for several years so are due some luck in the lottery and keeping their pick from Charlotte could be the bit of luck they need.

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- Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 3:38am #890691
  
  Lotto Stud
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  Honestly I can really say this year I like the Top 6 teams jocking for position.
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 3:38am #890580
  
  Lotto Stud
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  Honestly I can really say this year I like the Top 6 teams jocking for position.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/19/2014 - 2:04pm #891187

BothTeamsPlayedHard
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I’m fighting an unwinnable war. Milwaukee (25%) was just sold to new owners for more money than was expected (certainly based off the Forbes appraisal). Philadelphia (19.9%) is a big market. Utah (10.4%) winning the lottery in a year with a Mormon star would set off alarms. Boston (10.3%) and the Lakers (6.3%) are the two most successful franchises in the league’s history. Sacramento (4.3%) is getting a new stadium with public money. There is a better than 75% chance of the conspiracy theorists coming away feeling justified.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/19/2014 - 2:04pm #891076

BothTeamsPlayedHard
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I’m fighting an unwinnable war. Milwaukee (25%) was just sold to new owners for more money than was expected (certainly based off the Forbes appraisal). Philadelphia (19.9%) is a big market. Utah (10.4%) winning the lottery in a year with a Mormon star would set off alarms. Boston (10.3%) and the Lakers (6.3%) are the two most successful franchises in the league’s history. Sacramento (4.3%) is getting a new stadium with public money. There is a better than 75% chance of the conspiracy theorists coming away feeling justified.
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- Posted on: Sat, 04/19/2014 - 2:40pm #891189
  
  butidonthavemoney
  how much adam silver paid you to say this lies??
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- Posted on: Sat, 04/19/2014 - 2:40pm #891078
  
  butidonthavemoney
  how much adam silver paid you to say this lies??
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Posted on: Sat, 04/19/2014 - 3:07pm #891191

Rip255
I honestly believe some drafts have been rigged, but not this year. I think it will be clean.
Of all the suspicious drafts, I’m most inclined to say the Anthony Davis draft was fixed.

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Posted on: Sat, 04/19/2014 - 3:07pm #891080

Rip255
I honestly believe some drafts have been rigged, but not this year. I think it will be clean.
Of all the suspicious drafts, I’m most inclined to say the Anthony Davis draft was fixed.

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