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  • #46075
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    lakeshow22
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    what makes Mclemore the better prospect? there both similar size while mclemore is obviously more athletic while beal is stronger and 2 years younger.

    Also What kind of Defender is Bradley Beal right now in the NBA? He seemed pretty solid and above average at Florida but how is he doing in the Pros?

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  • #742694
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    lalaila
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    for me they are so so similar prospects..and their NBA potential has to be very very close..i might take Ben top3 but clearly not number one

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    • #742699
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      Blakesanity
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      I always thought McLemore was born in 1992, so he would turn 21. But according to this site he’s born in 1993, so he turns 20. True?

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  • #742697
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    the I in win
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    I take Mclemore. Both played in a system but Beal didn’t have huge games within the system like Mclemore has. Mclemore is the better athlete I think and Self will give him a defensive mentality to use that athleticism. I don’t look at age as much as I look at miles and neither has played a considerable amount more than the other.

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  • #742701
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    Siggy
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    Athleticism alone makes McLemore the better prospect with the higher potential. Plus he’s not only touted as a very good shooter, but the results back that up as well unlike Beal.

    and yes, Ben was born in 93.

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    • #742702
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      lakeshow22
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      siggy what kind of defender is beal right now in the NBA?

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      • #742706
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        Siggy
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        He’s a pretty solid defender. He’s not disruptive, but he doesn’t gamble and he’s sound man to man. He’s fundamentally sound, smart and he has the strength to fight through picks.

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  • #742704
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    Lebron’s Hairline
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    BMac no doubt, unlike Beal, Ben has a pretty jumpshot and can consistently hit threes, he is also bigger and more athletic. Beal was hyped up as the next Ray Allen because of his pretty jumpshot, Ben is hyped as the next Ray Allen as he has the textbook jumpshot and the insane shooting percentages to back it up

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  • #742711
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    For_Never_Ever
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    B-Mac is easily 6’5 an inch taller then Beal with at least the same wingspan as well. He is just as good, but I would say a better defender too.

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  • #742712
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    ilike.panochas
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    McLemore is taller, more athletic, and makes a bigger impact on the defensive end. McLemore is also more efficient as a scorer. McLemore over Beal as a prospect, and it’s not even close.

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  • #742718
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    Malcolmx
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    It’s funny we are having this convo. Beal and Bmac played on the same AAU team growing up. The St.Louis eagles. Back in 11th grade Beal was looked at as the way better player but now. Bmac may actually end up being better down the line. We shall see.

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  • #742724
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    I would take BMac as he was not suppose to be this good, but has really put in the work even though he wasn’t playing. So too me I feel that BMac has that work ethic to really make him amazing as a top scorer and defender at NBA level.

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  • #742727
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    ZEO
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    Can we please give him a better nickname than BMac I mean that’s just stupid!!!!!!!! And pleas don’t call him BM23 that is so uncreativie

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  • #742730
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    festar35
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    Shall we call him Macklemore?

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    • #742941
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      Blakesanity
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      That would be f*****g awesome …

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  • #742732
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    theprophet
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    funny that i posted a rank em topic yesterday including both of these players and anyone that had the balls to rank the order of the list ranked bmac ahead of beal. not that points matter cuz i go on here for information and discussion but it was funny that i get -7 for posting the topic and the last one to respond gets a +2 and we have the same order in the first four players. just an observation. sometimes people neg and don’t even put their two cents in because they have no balls to offer an alternative opinion or explanation.

    http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/rank-em-1

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  • #742940
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    Mr. 19134
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    Allen Iverson and I still do as an adult. The 96 draft was the first one I watched as a kid, and walking around the neighborhood that night the buzz was surreal, AI wasnt a shoe in as The Sixers and fans also liked Marbury and Kobe, even Camby and Ray Allen. I honestly wanted Marbury or Kobe myself cuz I hated AI for destoying Nova in the tourney. But every other Nova fan who went to that Big East tourny kept telling me AI was like nothing they ever saw before.

    Its a shame that you younger guys didnt get to see AI in person in his prime, because people like Carter and Blake have replicated Jordans dunking ability. Guys like Kidd, Nash and now Rubio have made passing pretty like Magic did. BUT NOBODY HAS RLICATED IVERSONS SPEED. Youmg guys think Rose, Westbrook and Wall have blinding speed, but I saw them on tv and in person and they dont possess the same speed AI had and honestly its not even close.

    The best reference point is game 1 of the 2001 Finals, AI playing with a grocery list of injuries still had Kobe tripping over his own feet.

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    • #742942
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      Mr. 19134
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      Wow this is embarrassing. Im on my phone and I dun even know how this happened but I obviously posted this in the wrong thread. I meant to post this in the Who I Grew Up Idoling Thread. I blame my LG touchscreen thats all screwy as evidenced in the typos I always have when I post from my phone. Even vets make rookie mistakes tho right guys? Right? :::.crickets and a boo this man:::

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  • #742945
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    Mr. 19134
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    Okay to answer this threads actual question I ask people to put things in perspective. BMacs age shouldnt b just cast aside because hes both physically more mature and even tho hes only a freshman hes a redshirt freshmman therefore hes and experienced freshman.

    Ask yourself if BMac played last year does anybody think he had a shot at outperforming Beal who had a nice season and had some big games at the end.
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    Or what if Beal redshirted too what would Beals numbers look like this year at Florida. I think Beal would easily be putting up better numbers across the board and would probably be averaging closer to 20 ppg and Florida would be #1.
    Guys are underestimating how much of an advantage it to redshirt a year BMac already knew the system this year and got to fine tune his talents within the system.
    Its why guys lile Johnson and Mou trie had such big Jr. years and used there production and athleticism to raise there draft stocks. Nev

    redshirt, BMac

    already knew the syxge

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  • #742966
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    JoeWolf1

    There was serious buzz about McLemore as he was practicing with the team as a freshman. As a guy who follows Self and what he says about his players, I truly think McLemore would have been at least a 12/4 players as a freshman, who would have shot better than Beal’s 44/33/76 clip.

    McLemore is a better shooter, taller, more athletic and a more disruptive defender, while Beal is stronger, with a more NBA ready body and and a guy with a slightly better handle and a better one on one player.

    I see the appeal of both, but I’d go McLemore because of shooting and athletic ability. Shooting absolutely translates, and having his hops and quickness in a 6’5” body ensures he’ll be able to get his shot off.

    Ben McLemore is also 4 months older than Brad Beal. 4 months has little to do with physical maturity or any difference on a basketball court. Beal may be putting up comparable or better numbers, in some categories, if he were playing in the NCAA this year, but I doubt 51/44/87 would be some of them. Beal is still only a 78% FT shooter and 15 feet with a stopped clock in the NCAA is still 15 feet with a stopped clock in the NBA. I pick Ben because of the shooting and athletic ability, not the hype. Guys who are shine a little later in development are not always the guys who are behind years later.

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