Why does everyone say that shabazz lied about his age? Shabazz never told anybody that he was 19 years old and all his freinds and teammates know that he is 20. It was shabazz dad who told everyone that he was 19 yet everyone blames bazz for what his dad did.In an interview shabazz showed his driver license which he has had for a couple years now that showed that he is 20 and he has never told anybody anything different. I just don't know why bazz gets such a bad rep for his character and that he is selfish but anybody who has followed him from high school well tell you the opposite. Sure you can question his shot selection, his lack of assist and things like that but to question his character and all these other red flags just aren't true.
I think the thing that is worrying most people is that his dad seems to be over involved and pushing Bazz to become a NBA star prospect. This raises important questions of whether bazz wants to be on a basketball court or wants to do it because it is a genuine love for the game or just because his dad has pushed him into playing ball. If he does lack this love for the game it is a red flag in that he won;t do the things needed to become a great and team player.
I always had a feeling that he wasn't born in 1993. The reason why is because I wondered why he never got invited to try out for Team USA's U17 team in 2010 that had MKG, Bradley Beal and Andre Drummond. The fact that he was 19 years old during his Senior year of HS also explains why he was so dominant compared to how he played at UCLA.
Nah, I don't think that's a problem at all, Derrick Rose's brother(Reggie) was overly involved in his career and it never was a red flag.....or at least not to my knowledge.
did Reggie lie about his brothers age, forge a birth certificate as to make him younger and increase his stock, did he name his brother a name for the sole reason as to increase his markability? His father seems to have him breed to be a sports star from a early age, just makes me a bit iffy
I hope this comment is sarcasm? Reggie Rose didn't care that Derrick had a fake SAT , HS diploma , and Transcript.
Shabazz is guilty in part because he allowed his father to lie without publicly correcting it. If someone says something about me in my favor that is a lie and I allow the lie to continue then I am as guilty as the person telling the lie. Shabazz may have told his friends his true age but he was aware that is father was not being honest and never corrected this.
Exactly. What is the difference b/t living a lie and telling a lie?
Shabazz was asked that question and he said that he didn't know that his dad told told everyone that he's 19 and he didn't know that his age was listed at 19 in public. Whether that's true or not is debatable.
Yeah, definitely debatable...questionable, bordering on unbelievable.
Is this one of those "I didn't lie, I just didn't tell the full truth" situations? Because he didn't lie about it, but he also didn't tell anyone that he was 20, when every basketball talking head and draft maker, were talking about the 19 year old Shabazz Muhammed freshman phenom, not the 20 year old Shabazz Muhammed...
does it really matter once he gets to the nba? its not like his dad said he was 19 and he is actually 24. I really think this age thing is being WAY overplayed.
The older he gets the less it matters. What matters is he was 18 years old playing against 17 year olds. When he was 16 he was playing against 15 year olds. He has been judged differently the entire time and THAT is what matters. A 16 year old should be better than a 15 year old. We all know the teenage body grows tremendously during those years.
How about when he was a freshmen and got his first scholarship when he was dominating juniors and seniors?
....age is taken into effect when players are identified. Without the proper information scouts are unable to make assessments based upon correct information. And yes; there is a difference between a 19 year old senior and 17 or 18 year old senior. I remember my frosh and soph year of college (I was 19 during my soph year. Bazz was 19 as a senior) I was physically so much better in terms of jumping/explosion as well as skill.
But you are correct in that in the NBA it doesn't matter once he is there. He will be playing against guys older than he is. But as I said; it matters more because of assessment value vs. actually ability to play.
If someone got your birthday wrong, would you not correct it? Or would you just say, "Well, I know how old I am, who cares if other people think differently?" I would probably correct it. All I know is that before the season began, Shabazz Muhammad's birthdate was listed as November 13, 1993 on the UCLA athletic site. Do you think they asked him or his dad about that?
Go to the USA Basketball site for the 2012 Hoop Summit, his birthday is still listed as 11/13/1993:
I am still much higher on Shabazz, especially in terms of the 2013 Draft, than most people. He is a scoring 3 who I believe works hard and has some definite competitive edge. He also may not be a tremendous athlete, though he is a good one with length that gives him sufficient size at the SF spot. His character concerns seem very much blown out of proportion and I have not heard of him being a "bad teammate" like many claim after showing some poor body language at times this season.
What I will say is, this age thing was weird. He may not have lied about it directly, you just have to think that he saw these things where he was listed as being born in 1993 and could have said "Well, that's not right." So, he was at the very least playing along. Think that while the age thing is not the end all be all in this case, it just leaves you scratching your head.
Shabazz being Class of 2011 as opposed to Class of 2012 would have changed perception and where he was ranked more than likely. Lets just say that he might not have been top 5 and certainly would not be ranked as high as he ended up being ranked in the Class of 2012, especially with people knowing he was born in 1992. So, Shabazz may not have been the one who orchestrated the age cover up and those close to him might have known. Still, there is definite evidence that they were trying to pull a fast one on the scouting community.
Shabazz may not have done it directly, just seems like he did nothing to try and get the real information out there. So, I will stand up for Shabazz in many instances, this is one that I think you at the very least have to be confused about and have to question him pleading ignorance to his birthday being listed a year after it really was. Scouts and the public were given the 1993 birthday, did not seem like the plan was to change that perception until they were caught redhanded. His dad may have been the one that came up with the plan, just think Shabazz had to have seen "1993" and could have spoken up.