[nateoak10Participant]

GSW sends : Maggette, Biedrins, and there 2nd rounder (35th)
Nola sends : The 11th pick, Posey and Mo Pete (would be waived after the trade, he is here for money reasons)

Nola gets a clear upgrade at SF and the scorer they need. Maggs can create his own shot which is something Nola players struggle with. They also need a big that can play right now and potentially make Okafor a role player off the bench where he seems to be suited best for. Nola would have only gained 1 player on draft day and that could have been a project big or a project wing but now they get 3 players. there a team built to win now so this would just advance that cause. They also rid themselves of Posey

GSW gets to lose two big contracts in exchange for a tough defender off the bench which they need. The extra picks gives them freedom to fill both there needs at SF and C. If they draft Monroe or Cuz Biedrins would be come more disposable and they have wanted to clear Maggs contract.

Any thoughts?

*************EDIT************** : I thought of a similar deal that saves Nola more money than the one above

GSW’s 2012 or 2013 first rounder and Maggs for Posey and the 11 pick. Nola gets to try to win now with more production at SF, gain a future 1st rounder which they can do whatever they wish with as well. If needed the W’s can throw in Radmonoviches’ 6 million dollar expiring deal for Mo pete as well as a add on which saves them more money. If nola wants the 2nd rounder can still be included

Any better?

[ChabvisParticipant]

Basketball wise it makes a lot of sense for both teams, but I don’t see it ever happening.

NO already has $73 million next year and this would be giving them quite a bit more over the coming seasons. I won’t pretend to be an expert on it, but if I am not mistaken the NO owners are pretty cheap (and probably rightly so at this point since the team probably is not competing too soon).

If NO makes a move this off-season my guess would be that they package Collison and Okafer to shed his awful contract. Just looking at it now it has got to be top 3 worst in the NBA.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Idk if Okafor is in the top 3 worst contracts.

Dampier 10m, 13m next year
Arenas contract
Kirilenko is making 16.5m
Curry 10mil
Chandler 11m
Brad Miller 12.2m
Dunleavy 10m
Jefferson 14m
Milicic 7m
Turkoglu 9m
Blount 8m
Stojakovic 14m
Shaq 20m
Bobby Simmons 11m
Redd 17m
Jermaine O’Neal 23m
T-Mac 23m

[llperez]

new orleans is trying to shed some salary right now, both biedrins and maggette make a whole lot more and for longer then posey and mo pete. If they make this deal, that would lock up 3 forwards in okafor, biedrins and maggette who combine to make about 30 mill a year for the forseeable future. New Orleans would probably prefer just clearing cap space and letting posey, stojakovic, and petersen expire and getting a marquee free agent who they pick out. The fact that the hornets would also have to give up a lottery pick on top of taking on these contracts just doesnt sound too good to me.

[Mr.CreativeParticipant]

Sounds nice, but I believe the mindset of New Orleans is that they’re trying to shed some cap salary and might want to get rid of some horrendous contracts. Maggette and Biedrins have signed long term contracts, thus trading for them might just bulk up their salary cap, that’s probably the one thing they’re trying to avoid. Sounds nice, but in reality it’ll be a financial crisis. NOLA should get rid of Morris Peterson and Peja’s contracts, Okafor too. However, this will be difficult. Its 2010, a lot of marquee free agents will be available. Whether LeBron decides to opt out, he will be the one who will initiate the domino effect for the other free agents’ decision.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Yeah that move would not save NO money or make them a lock to win it all so it kind of only helps GSW. Corey Maggette could help NO but at what cost.

[nateoak10Participant]

Uhm, a possible project player in order to win now? Losing Posey and Mo AND getting a 1st rounder helps. Also there clearing two bad contracts for only 1 bad one (Maggs) and Vlad’s deal is a big expiring one. So yes it is saving them money. The biggest loss they take is the 11 th which they get back in the future

[llperez]

nateoak, im not sure what you’re talking about. You just said “Losing Posey and Mo AND getting a 1st rounder helps.” In your trade new orleans does not get a 1st rounder, they lose it. Secondly, how on earth can you say this trade saves new orleans money? Andris Biedrins and correy maggette=7 years and 66 million dollars. Posey and mo pete= 3 years and 20 million. Thats a HUGE difference. And why are you bringing up vladimir radmanovic’s expiring deal? He was not mentioned in the trade Did you even read your own trade becasue you got it all mixed up.

[ajthejuicemanParticipant]

u should have rashard lewis contract up there and new orleans need to trade peja hes done

[nateoak10Participant]

Posey and Mo’s contracts are bad and so is Maggs, but Vlad’s is not. It’s a lot of money but it is expiring so they would be saving money for this up coming offseason and Im sure the extra little bit of cash for Maggs>Posey is worth it. And they are getting a future 1st rounder in this deal as well in a year or 2 so yes they are getting there pick back essentially. Beans is not even in the edited one

Please read the giant ************EDIT************* i put up before jumping to conclusions
“GSW’s 2012 or 2013 first rounder and Maggs for Posey and the 11 pick. Nola gets to try to win now with more production at SF, gain a future 1st rounder which they can do whatever they wish with as well. If needed the W’s can throw in Radmonoviches’ 6 million dollar expiring deal for Mo pete as well as a add on which saves them more money. If nola wants the 2nd rounder can still be included

Any better?”
That is what it says above in the edit. Where is Biedrins even mentioned? Yes I read my own trade, I think you should read it

[llperez]

hey nateoak, you put a huge trade at the top and sheltwon read it and commented and you told him he was wrong becasue the edit at the bottom of your post. How do you know he wsant still talking ABout your original trade? You didnt say forget the first trade did you? Nope, you left it up there gave another possibility at the bottom and didnt specify whihcc one people needed to comment on. So when sheltwon commented on the first trade you suggested, why tell him he’s wrong becasue clearly the edit is the idea you meant to convey. Get over yourself and and admit your first trade sucked and dont get all defensive about it being criticized.

[KathleenTurnerOverdriveParticipant]

i don’t think nola goes for it. the only way there are taking maggs contract is if we take okafors. maggs puts up decent numbers but is a black hole. he wouldn’t fit with nola and george shin is a notorious cheap ass. nola would steer clear of any added financial obligations. most likely they’ll package collison and okafor in a deal elsewhere

[nateoak10Participant]

That makes sense to everyone, obviously it was the updated one. Thats like me looking at the consensus mock on here and ripping on it and ignoring the updated one. I thought he was referring to the updated one since he commented after I posted that one as well

[llperez]

as for the second trade, here is why i dont like it. Magg is a bad deal, period. Teams dont want him. Can he help? yes, but like sheltwon said, at what price. Considering the the way guys like ariza and artest went for 5-6 mill a year, maggette is overpaid. SO giving up a lottery pick right now to get a lottery pick from GState down the road still does not sound like a good deal for new orleans.

[KathleenTurnerOverdriveParticipant]

most likely the pick the warriors would give up will be a protected one. new orleans would ultimately loose on this one. the pick wouldn’t loose it’s protection till five years from now. by then the warriors might be a playoff level team

[ajthejuicemanParticipant]

maggette avgs, 20 ppg 5th among sf 51%fg 84% ft quit saying bad contract

[llperez]

juiceman, maggette has a reputation for being a stats guy who cares more about numbers then playing winning ball. Other NBA players have called him out for this. Many people who cover the nba consider his contract bad and overpaid. Im guessing if you asked most warrior fans, they would love to unload him to someone simply becuase of his contract.

[ChabvisParticipant]

A lot of those are ending this year or next. I would rather pay Dunleavy 11 mill next year than Okafer 52 mill over the next four. Same goes for T-Mac, Redd, O’Neal, Shaq, Darko, Brad Miller, Dampier, Kirilenko, Simmons.

I would rather have all of those players for 1-2 more years on their contracts than have Okafer for the next four years. No doubt. Jefferson is making similar money to Okafer over three years and puts up much better numbers, is younger and has star potential. The only contracts in the league that I would say are worse than Okafer’s are Arenas and Brand.

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