the kid is stepping up right know. 18 points on 8-16 until now, 4 assists and he does not shy away from the big shot, i can see him getting the starter job since chalmer is not the absolute starter. I know it`s just two games over his belt, but he plays with confidence and knock down shots. It will be interesting to watch him over the season, good news for miami fans.
He's already better than Chalmers.
As well as Norris Cole is playing, and he's playing better than Chalmers, who i cannot believe had 4 turnovers in 1 minute, should keep coming off the bench as that spark plug.
He took the starting job. I didnt even know about him at all, untill the season started.
chalmers played nicely last year in the playoffs but he is not as dynamic as cole. this kid can run with wade and lebron and provide nice plays on the break.
Cole brings a different dynamic to the team... He's confident and he doesn't second guess himself. He's not in awe... Not afraid to make a mistake. He's a ball player and is going to get after it regardless of who he's playing with or against.
The look on Wade and LeBron's faces were like "Damn..."
Good example of what 4 years of college can do for you, he's come right in and looked very good.
I agree with youngDave +1
1. He is a SG in a PGs body.. I am in no way saying that it is a bad thing though.. He is a good fit with Lebron and Wade if he can get close to what he did tonight..
2. It was 1 game... He was left open alot and dared to shoot.. A smart, vetran team will chose 1 player to let go.. Naturally, they chose the rookie.. Anyone can hit open shots.. Sure, some of you are going to say they were pressure shots but not really, they were up by a good bit and they were shots he had to take.. If you screw up, you have Lebron and Wade to save you..
Regardless, nice 4th quarter...
20 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 steals vs the Boston Celtics... And most of his points were when the Celtics were rallying in the game and looking like they were about to steal one.
While LeBron and Wade were looking stiff vs the zone, Cole was hungry and thirsty for that ball. BS that those weren't pressure shots and pressure plays vs a great defensive team... And for a rookie playing his second game of the season.
I don't see how you can come away with anything but positives from this kid after this game... I mean, who gives a F if he's a SG in a PG's body lol.
Norris Cole is solid but honestly LeBron and Wade will stunt his growth the same way Beasley played bad with Wade, Hughes flopped with LeBron and Bosh sucked mule balls last year.
People say they make players better I say they just inflate their numbers because they have the ball for 20 of 24 seconds on the shot clock.
I really like this kid moving forward. I do believe that he is a better all-around player than Mario Chalmers, and will soon take over the starting role for this Miami Heat team. It seems as though whenever young players have confidence, they will succeed in the NBA. Norris Cole has a lot of confidence (as shown on the court) which is leading him to provide the Heat with some help for their superstars. Guys like this are fun to watch. I also believe Iman Shumpert will play like this in a few weeks whenever he gets back from injury, because he too plays with a lot of confidence and poise.
What impresses me about him is that he's quick and DECISIVE. He's not pumpfaking... Or second guessing himself... Or putting his head down when he makes a mistake or misses a shot. He's not nervous. Not passing up shots. He wants the ball and knows what to do with it.
You just can't teach those type of things. Then add to the fact that he can actually run with LeBron and Wade, and actually has offensive talent.
Just one game, but I like him.
Again as I stated on Xmas Day, I'm more impressed with Norris Cole than anything. He makes Chalmers very irrelevant, because for a minute I forgot the Heat brought him back.
Reminds me of Ramon Sessions. Great pickup by Miami late in the 1st. It would be a slap in the face to many teams if he ends up being a Top 3 PG in his draft class.
I know Im never gonna win a battle with Miami fans but if you think about it, he played 1 really good quarter..
14 points in the 4th quarter..
If he goes for half of that, it would have been a nice quarter for him but he would have only had 11 then..
He played well but lets see what happens for another game or 2 before you start saying he is better than Chalmers.. I think that he is a spark plug more than he is a starter..
Ehh, I guess its whatever.
i remember when Cleveland State beat Syracuse how impressive this kid was...
Then he dropped 40 points and 20 rebounds and i knew hed make the league...gotta admit im very shocked hes come on like this so early...figured he spend some time on the bench/d-league but this kid is ready to start!
good for Miami for scouting and using the draft the right way...
He is not the starter that the Heat need at the point.. He took 16 shots.. He can be a great player off the bench as a different look to Chalmers but Cole cannot replace Chalmers' defense..
The Heat need Lebron and Wade to take all the shots and Bosh taking what is left.. Cole can play the role of the bench 1/2 guard that will score a lil bit..
Chalmers as a defender is what the Heat need to start games and play the bulk of the minutes..
im not sure that Chalmers is a better defender than Cole but you make a valid point...
if i was the Heat id rotate Cole and Chalmers into the starting line-up depending on match-ups
Chalmers' defense isn't all that man. He is solid, but it isn't like he is a defensive stalwart. He makes mistakes on D and he certainly isn't a great decision maker offensively. He is a very erratic player to me, he never shoots a high %, and he isn't a great playmaker for others, which doesn't put alot of pressure on the D. He's got fearlessness about him in late game situations, but I just don't like Chalmers as a starter. Norris Cole is a scoring guard who likes to slash it, but he puts way more pressure on the D than Chalmers does. Even if the Heat start Chalmers, Cole should be playing the bulk of the minutes sooner or later. He makes the Heat harder to contain. He's already a better player than Chalmers is.
Alot of folks are just now hearing about Cole..I love Cole's confidence,ability to attack and he'sn underrated passer..Chalmers sulks when he misses a shot and unless he's making shots,he has nothing else to offer...
I said it earlier this kid is going to be a better player than Kyrie Irving...Cole or Rubio are my 2 favorites for rookie of the year.....
great sign, but it is pretty early to tell how good he will be this season. We should wait and see at least 10 or so games before coming to any conclusions.
I already posted this, but it wasn't paying attention and it was in the Jon Leuer post because they mentioned Norris Cole. I think Cole is their man in the future as they continue to build that team, but as for this year, my opinion is this.
At first I was a proponent of replacing Chalmers by Cole, but after thinking about it I've changed my stance. Cole is a fantastic young player and it's pretty evident he'll be the man in a few years, but as for this year, I think they should continue to bring him off the bench. Hear me out.
I think they'll continue to start Chalmers and bring Cole off the bench as a sparkplug. One of Miami's biggest weaknesses last year was bench production. Miller was always hurt and still is so It was Haslem or nothing, for the most part. Chalmers is still + 26 and +8 when he's in the game and he clearly has a role with the first unit, playing good defense, getting the ball out on the break and sharing the ball with the big 3.
I think Miami's best move would be to let Cole head up the 2nd unit, and provide his scoring there. I assume he'll play with the first unit at times too when Chalmers is struggling or in foul trouble, but that team needs bench production and often last year the opposing team would severly chip into the lead when their sorry 2nd unit was in last season.
Chalmers isn't a big minute player, so that still leaves Cole 20+ mpg to help the team out, which I think he will. Chalmers also influences the break more than numbers will tell, he gets a lot of steals and gets the Heat out in transition. He's only averaging 3.5 apg, but if it were hockey style he'd probably be around 8 because he often makes the crucial pass before the lob or to get the team out running. With the way Bron and Wade run the break he rarely gets the assist, but he is often the catalist of the Miami fast break, tallying 9 steals in two games
norris cole is ripping it as i write. the guy is a stud. so creative with his passes on fast breaks. clearly a steal
My boy who plays for Cleveland State (Aaron Pogue) told me Cole's work ethic is insane. He takes about 1,000 - 1,500 shots per day.
damn thanks for that lil info. i already knew his work ethic was good and he held practices with cleveland state with no coaches around. i really like him... ALOT
A kid with terrific work ethic practicing with LeBron, Wade, and Bosh? That's scary to think what he could become.
Another very impressive game for Cole. In just over 20 mins he goes 6 for 8 from the field for 16 points, 9 assists to 2 turnovers and 3 steals.
Another impressive game for Cole. In just over 20 minutes he was 6 for 8 from the field for 16 points, 9 assists to just 2 turnovers and 3 steals.
The main argument here is that you don't want to start your best players but most fans always assume that the best players should be starting. To be a championship team you need players on your bench that can come in and score 20 points if your starters are off. Manu use to come off the bench despite being the Spurs best SG during theyre second championship run and only got the starting nod when Popovich realized he had All Star potential and HAD to start.
The Sixers are a great example because they would of have one of the worse records in the league last year if Collins didn't know how to use a bench. But because Collins starts players like Meeks and keeps players like Lou Williams, Thad Young, and Evan Turner on the bench the Sixers consistently steal games because they're second unit will steal games back. Williams and Turner are even out their to close games most of the time especially Williams, so it don't matter who starts it matters who get's the minutes.
i think off the bench he's fine. opposing teams are a lil tired and so he can get in the break easier. is not like chalmers is playing bad either
What happened to this bandwagon?