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- Posted on: Wed, 02/22/2012 - 7:54pm #36750
The8thDeadlySinParticipantJust post any rumors and discussion that you have heard here. Deadline is a few weeks away so I, like most people, am hoping to see some player movement..
Lets see what you have heard!
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/23/2012 - 4:59am #640379
HarbingerDevin Harris and CJ Miles to the lakers for Luke walton and Metta World Peace plus the 21st and 22nd picks in the draft. The lakers are not getting much out of two postions pg and small forward this will sew things up.The lakers gets a one time all star in harris I dont think he can lead a team but playing with kobe he can excel.
Plus Cj miles has been balling but isnt the answer to the Utahs problems plus they have hayward already in most likely will look for depth at the back court postions but you always draft talent before need and there some good sf they can draft in the lottery and the middle of the draft.
There not many team intrested in harris or able to attain him.Utah gets two more first rounders in What I think is a deep draft like 2009 not all star deep but role player deep.They could amensty Ron and take on the last year of Waltons which isnt a big deal.The lakers still have their exception if The Gm Can still find away to pry beasly away from the wolves for future picks the way the wolves got him in the first place I can see them competing for a ship and him coming off the bench at sf and pf like odom did but getting more mins then he does in minn.
Chris broussard
It’s not clear what the Lakers would give Minnesota for Beasley (if indeed the talks get that far), but the Lakers could absorb Beasley into their $8.9 million trade exception while giving up a draft pick or cash
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/23/2012 - 5:00am #640378
HarbingerDevin Harris and CJ Miles to the lakers for Luke walton and Metta World Peace plus the 21st and 22nd picks in the draft. The lakers are not getting much out of two postions pg and small forward this will sew things up.The lakers gets a one time all star in harris I dont think he can lead a team but playing with kobe he can excel.
Plus Cj miles has been balling but isnt the answer to the Utahs problems plus they have hayward already in most likely will look for depth at the back court postions but you always draft talent before need and there some good sf they can draft in the lottery and the middle of the draft.
There not many team interested in harris or able to attain him.Utah gets two more first rounders in What I think is a deep draft like 2009 not all star deep but role player deep.They could amensty Ron and take on the last year of Waltons which isnt a big deal.The lakers still have their exception if The Gm Can still find away to pry beasly away from the wolves for future picks the way the wolves got him in the first place I can see them competing for a ship and him coming off the bench at sf and pf like odom did but getting more mins then he does in minn.
Chris broussard
It’s not clear what the Lakers would give Minnesota for Beasley (if indeed the talks get that far), but the Lakers could absorb Beasley into their $8.9 million trade exception while giving up a draft pick or cash
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/23/2012 - 5:07am #640382
HarbingerI think this is a good trade tho because utah isnt getting much production out of harris and is stuck in flux right now.Cj miles will be missed but more time for younger players to emerge in the future from for first round draft picks caused by the void of miles and harris leaving is great. They could draft teague and wroten, beal and terrance jones while still keeping most of the same team that almost made the playoffs . Its a win win.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/23/2012 - 5:59am #640396
iguapops420ParticipantThat is your own opinion, not a rumor correct Harbinger? I know they are looking at Beasley and Sessions along with a few others, but i’ve heard absolutely nothing about Harris and Miles. Personally I’d do the trade simply for the depth alone(not to mention getting out of Artest and Walton’s deals). Not to mention I wanted LAL to draft Miles in 05′, and have remained a fan since. Just not sure If it’s a plan LAL has actually thought about. Personally I don’t see this rebuilding Utah team taking on these two contracts, especially since you can’t amnesty a player you trade for after the amnesty provision was put into effect. I COULD, though, see Harris for the TPE, then in a second deal Miles for Walton or Artest and the 2 picks. Perhaps try and get Bell back in the Deal as well since Miles and Bell together make about what Walton or Artest make.
Bynum/McRoberts/Pau
Pau/Murphy
Barnes/Ron/Ebanks/Kobe
Kobe/Miles/Bell/Pono
Harris/Blake/Fisher/Glock/Morris
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/23/2012 - 6:27am #640403
chevilicousParticipantAs a Jazz fan I’m not even offended by this trade, rather the fact that you used CJ Miles and “Ballin” in the same sentence.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/23/2012 - 7:39am #640427
iguapops420ParticipantSo is this an actual rumor you have heard or simply this guys own idea? I haven’t heard anything concerning the Jazz and Lakers on any Laker boards.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/23/2012 - 8:05am #640434
chevilicousParticipantIt’s the first I’ve heard of it, so I’m assuming it’s his own idea, or something off bleacherreport that has no credibility.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/23/2012 - 8:11am #640437
iguapops420ParticipantThat’s what I thought.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/23/2012 - 3:30pm #640593
HarbingerMy idea except for the beasley one. Miles is playing good he has to split mins with 3 somtimes 5 other players if you count the small forwards so it doesnt show up in stats all the time.
"Teams will be permitted to waive one player with pay prior to any season of the labor deal — only for contracts in place with the team making the move as of July 1, 2011 — and have 100 percent of the player’s salary removed from a team’s payroll for both salary-cap and luxury-tax purposes. That means teams can save this mulligan for next season or beyond, unlike in 2005 when teams had just two weeks in August to use or lose the original amnesty clause forever."
I see what your saying now but for a team who will not attract big name players why not pull it.
This is one of the few trades I see that can really happen. I wouldnt be surprised if you see it in the rumor mill soon because if the lakers can get a pg and sf they will and if the jazz can get rid of Devin and get draft picks back they will.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/24/2012 - 8:53am #640829
SwatLakeCityParticipantThe Jazz don’t need more draft picks. They have enough youngsters already. One draft pick this year in the lottery is fine and all that the Jazz need. Yes, the Jazz need to get rid of CJ and Harris but not getting a PG in return, 1 player that is just a bench filler and someone that the Jazz already have in Josh Howard, no thanks. Sorry, but I don’t think the Jazz would be interested in doing that trade harbinger. Makes sense for the Lakers but absolutely no sense for the Jazz. It is not a win win not in the slightest. More like a win lose. Those never work. I hope the Jazz will trade Miles, Harris and their draft pick from the Warriors to the Cavs for Sessions. I have explained this several times so I don’t feel like doing so again, and its pretty obvious why it would help both teams.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/24/2012 - 10:36am #640855
Lotto StudParticipantAny Orange Juice Mayonnaise? He seems to be back, by popular demand, this time of year.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/24/2012 - 11:30am #640867
aamir543ParticipantJust saw on Hoopshype that Billy King is working 3 and 4 team trade scenarios to get Dwight.
In any event, I feel that Otis Smith has smartly kept Dwight untill now, and said that he wouldn’t consider trading him before All_Star Weekend.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/24/2012 - 11:46am #640873
aamir543ParticipantJust made a thread about this, but Raheed Wallace is headed to the Lakers.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/24/2012 - 2:20pm #640921
The8thDeadlySinParticipantI would love to see Dwight in OKC… That would be amazing….
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/24/2012 - 7:01pm #641039
Harbingerwhy would the cavs want Harris? Your not making sense everyone knows the jazz needs talents and who says they have to keep the draft picks they would have got they can package them for a vet.
In the last 10 years give me a big name player who signed to the jazz…..Boozer………small market teams dont land superstar they draft them.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/24/2012 - 8:56pm #641083
Lotto StudParticipantSurprised not to see a Bledsoe or Williams transaction.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 02/25/2012 - 8:34pm #641458
SwatLakeCityParticipantI partly agree with you, but if the Jazz trade Harris and don’t get a point guard back, they would suck. I mean like top 5 suck. Do you realize that the Jazz’s offense runs through a point guard? A pure point guard that is. All the point guards that are coming out this year are likely to go late lottery to 20th. Do you really need 4 draft picks just to trade down for one pick in the mid first round? I don’t think so. Also with 4 draft picks in this year’s loaded draft if the Jazz package them for a veteran it would have to be like an all star veteran. I’m sorry if you don’t agree with me, but I just can’t see the Jazz trading Harris and not getting a PG back.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/26/2012 - 9:05am #641537
HarbingerIm not sure about it running through the point gaurd anymore with the frontcourt being one of the best in the league all you have to do is ge it down low which could be done by a pass from anyone.I do agree a pg is needed but can wait 25 teams in this league have solid pgs leaving a couple of teams in need of a pg one being the Lakers. The jazz have few options get rid of a harris who doesnt give them what they need or keep him which they dont want to do either way I dont see them making the playoffs there to bad on the road.
Either sew up the back court problem take a look at wroten , teague, etc keep all four picks which will give them better odds of finding a solid player in the first round also. The other choices look at raymond a free agent soon or be stuck in mediocrity with harris always missing the playoffs and ending up in the end of the lottery LIKE PAST JAZZ TEAMS.
I enjoyed this convo but anymore rumors?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/26/2012 - 9:14am #641541
OhCanada-ParticipantBucks have Andrew Bogut on the block. Apparently they are tired of watching him have heartbreaking injuries every year. They maybe able to make a huge splash with Minnesota, even Houston seems like a possible destination.
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