[valentine]

here are my top 10 point guards in the draft

1. Ricky Rubio

2. Brandon Jennings

3. Johnny Flynn

4. Eric Manyor

5. Tyreke Evans

6. Jrue Holiday

7. Toney Douglas

8. Jeff Teague

9. Ty Lawson

10. Darren Collison

[fliptonnParticipant]

it looks good but teague and lawson are better than toney douglas. and since collison started over holliday its debatable that hes a better true point guard. also patty mills many consider better than douglas and collison. but overall it seems about right

[mbrown6495]

toney dougas can shoot the ball better and is faster than any other player according to the combine when he ran 3/4 of the court in 3.03 seconds

[gatorheelsParticipant]

yeah but is douglas that quick with the ball in his hands???? Jennings, Evans, & Holiday are my top 3 PGs. I just have a feeling Evans may end up being the best.

[Knicksboy34Participant]

a couple of disagreements..

I dont think Douglas is better than Teague.

Where is Mills and the French PG?

[mb6297]

Waiting for negative points from the Rubio lovers that never seen him play a single full game… just looking at 3 minute highlight clips.

Rubio – (youtube)(media) = late 1st round

1. Brandon Jennings

2. Johnny Flynn

3. Eric Manyor

4. Tyreke Evans

5. Jrue Holiday

6. Toney Douglas

7. Jeff Teague

8. Ty Lawson

9. Darren Collison

10. Ricky Rubio

[mbrown6495]

rubio is drawing comparisons from gms to steve nash. and toney is underated, and mills is returning to school

[scoutguruParticipant]

Wat did Jrue Holiday do to make people believe he’s a top point guard? Workouts? AAU ball? High School? I can only go by what I saw him do in college, and what I saw was very underwhelming. If we didn’t know who Jrue Holiday was and watched a UCLA game, we wouldn’t think any more of him than we did of Jerime Anderson (another frosh pt guard for UCLA). And it’s crazy how Darren Collison is almost a cast away now, when he is pretty much the safest, most ready to contribute pick out of all of these guys. We know he’ll be a solid back up, with a shot to start in this league in a couple years. A steady point guard in the mold of a breven knight (but a few inches taller), who is lightening quick, a pure point guard, and provides constant on ball pressure. Despite his shortcomings (size), he’ll still be a solid pro, who you know what you’re getting when you take him. Unlike a Jennings and even a Rubio in my opinion, even though they’re talented, who are really a crap shoot.

[fliptonnParticipant]

i think evans is great and a possible all star but i think hes gunna get his at 2guard rather than point

[mb6297]

Every potential lottery pick or first rounder for that fact gets compared to some great player. I would estimate that only 5% live up to the hype though.

It’s usually players that are underrated that become the best.

Rubio averaged 2.4 pts and 2.3 turnovers in the Euroleague… team wouldn’t even play him in 5 of 10 Euroleague games… Come on.

[fliptonnParticipant]

jennings didnt even play in there last game or most of the playoffs i believe and you have him number 1

[gatorheelsParticipant]

Neither Rubio or Jennings put up impressive stats this year in the Euroleague.

[mb6297]

Good point dlipto11…

In short defense of Jennings, for discussion purposes, he did play 10 regular season Euroleague games and averaged 8.2 pts in 18 minutes avg, shooting 52% 2FG.

Lastly, Jennings played 6 games in the Top 16 (which can be playoffs)… he also scored 17 against the powerhouse Unicaja

I’m going to take a guess… dlipto11 and mbrown6495 are giving me negative points. Thanks bros

[fliptonnParticipant]

haha i dont give negatives i respect your points and they are valid. im just a big rubio fan because i know him a little bit

[maravich44Participant]

Holiday is living off the rep he earned in high school. He did nothing as a freshman and is a true project. Point guard is the most difficult position to learn in hoops. He is 3 years away from helping a team if they are lucky. Collison may not be star material, but is ready to contribute. Rubio’s stats don’t tell me anything positive and he has glaring weaknesses in defense and shooting. I doubt most of us haven’t seen him play much, and you tube doesn’t tell the whole story, so we have to rely on what gm’s say and they rate him high. His game is exciting, but NBA doesn’t award style points. I think he will thrive in the right envirnment, but is far from being a sure thing and may take a while to develop. I’m predjudice being a Maravich fanatic, so I’m excited to see him play, but he might be the most difficult player to project in the draft and whoever winds up with him will have to bypass Harden, Derozan and maybe even Thabeet. Good luck!!!

I think Lawson will be good right away. Lots of combo guards in the mix. Can’t really assess their career as a point guard til after they are drafted and we know the personell of their new team. I’m not big on Teague, but am on Jennings.

[sheltwon3Participant]

The draft is about finding superstars and there are players that similiar to Lawson in the league aleady and they will never be stars. Holiday does have the potential to be a star not a superstar though. He has good size and has at least shown enough according to GMs that he can run a team. He may take a few years but I see some Jarrett Jack in him and last year Jarrettt played really well. Also Holiday can defend point guard which is a huge problem in the NBA with the Paul’s. William’s. Rose’s, and the Rondo’s of the game that are wrecking Havoc. Jenning has the potential and the drive to be the best point but his only problem is size, and his on selfishness but hopefully he has changed on that last one because it is still possible that he is still growing.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Toney Douglas does seem like he could be a steal in the draft because with this many point guards some one good will fall and be like a Chalmers, Arenas, Parker, Sessions, or Williams.

[sheltwon3Participant]

also Teague is good in his own right too and would be top 10 and maybe top 5 next year if he went back to school.

[KiD MaGiC973Participant]

wheres steph curry

[knicksfreakParticipant]

Read the article about Jennings. His coach didnt trust a yound player in the playoffs. He went to one of the best teams in Europe. If he had gone to a bad team he could have put up some gaudy numbers. He has all the physical talent in the world. I just want to see his physical measurements. Jennings will either be the best player coming out in this years draft or a total bust. No middle ground. Personally, in this weak draft, I’d take the possibility of a superstar over a role [player anyday.

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