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- Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:16am #25994
jaycee24ParticipantNow I havent been posting in some time now so if this trade has been put up I apologize. With all the stuff going on in the NBA lately, I tried to make a trade that would benefit potentially LA NJ and Denver. This all depends if Prokhorov can covince Melo to sign an extension in Jersey/Brooklyn. heres what I came up with
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4gpotpt
Lakers get: Nene, Devin Harris, Kris Humphries, Denver 1st round pick, Nets 2nd Round Pick
Nuggets get: Andrew Bynum, Derrick Favors, Travis Outlaw, and Troy Murphy
Nets get: Carmelo Anthony, Ron Artest, Shannon Brown, and J.R. Smith
Lakers while losing Bynum a young player with a lot of upside, they gain tools that I think make them a contender again to win the championship. Devin Harris is an upgrade at PG and you still have the experience of Fischer there when you need it off the bench. You get rid of the problem of Ron Artest while gaining Nene whos having the best year of his career. Also you get Kris Humphries a solid big man to shed minutes for Nene Pau and Lamar Odom. Not to mention they get a 1st round pick from Denver that could easily be a lottery pick after trading Melo and a high 2nd rounder from NJ
The Nuggets lose Carmelo a top ten player and their franchise player but you gain what I think are two potential franchise players in return. Andrew Bynum is already a top 5 Center and at only 24 is only going to improve if he can stay healthy. They also get Derrick Favors another young player with big upside which pretty much solidifies their front court for the future. Travis Outlaw may be a waste of money but you have Troy Murphy taking 12 mill of the books after this season so it sort of balances out. I think this might be the most even composation that Denver can get for Melo.
The Nets get what they want in Carmelo Anthony. While they do give up Devin Harris and Kris Humphries, neither of these 2 will put them in contention for a championship ever so I think they’ll be alright with parting ways with those 2. While losing Derrick Favors could one day hurt…he still has a long way to go and I think the NJ want Carmelo a proven superstar to have as the face of the Nets when they move to Brooklyn. Ron Artest could possibly be put in a good situation and if he doesn’t pan out im sure the Russian Billionare wouldn’t mind buying out his contract. Gaining Shannon Brown could possibly mean finding a future PG if him and Melo work well together and if not his contract is up after this year. Same goes for J.R. Smith, if the Nets think he can be a valuable piece for the Nets and their future they can re-sign him. If not the Nets can use that money they will still have on a big name free agent. They will also still have a lotto pick to possibly steal a solid piece to put next to Melo and incoming free agents
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:19am #492967
Lotto StudParticipantI love it as a Nets fan, but even I know that is not realistic on our behalf to get all that.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:19am #493006
Lotto StudParticipantI love it as a Nets fan, but even I know that is not realistic on our behalf to get all that.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:21am #492969
jaycee24ParticipantWhen i made it it almost seemed too good for everyone. I think the Nets might have to give up a couple first round picks too
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:21am #493008
jaycee24ParticipantWhen i made it it almost seemed too good for everyone. I think the Nets might have to give up a couple first round picks too
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:34am #492983
SwatLakeCityParticipantIf I were the Nets I would try and keep Humphries at all costs. He’s the only player on the Nets squad that can get 10 boards or more a game. Rebounding is very valuable even if you are aren’t a playoff team. You can’t win if you don’t rebound.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:34am #493022
SwatLakeCityParticipantIf I were the Nets I would try and keep Humphries at all costs. He’s the only player on the Nets squad that can get 10 boards or more a game. Rebounding is very valuable even if you are aren’t a playoff team. You can’t win if you don’t rebound.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:38am #492985
AllStar Game BoundHorrible for us Laker fans
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:38am #493024
AllStar Game BoundHorrible for us Laker fans
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:39am #492987
torontoraptors10ParticipantNot to mention Kris Humphries will be in LA near Kim Kardashian and will be with fellow Mr. Kardashian Lamar Odom…. Good trade for Hump but not so good trade overall, even though I think it’s an alright trade, I don’t think it can ever possibly happen. I think the Lakers feel like they have good chemistry even though they have been sliding, keep Bynum and maintaining the core would be good for them.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:39am #493026
torontoraptors10ParticipantNot to mention Kris Humphries will be in LA near Kim Kardashian and will be with fellow Mr. Kardashian Lamar Odom…. Good trade for Hump but not so good trade overall, even though I think it’s an alright trade, I don’t think it can ever possibly happen. I think the Lakers feel like they have good chemistry even though they have been sliding, keep Bynum and maintaining the core would be good for them.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:41am #492989
jaycee24ParticipantHow so? You get the people you need to win a championship this year and maybe next year. Plus you find a way to lose Artest
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:41am #493028
jaycee24ParticipantHow so? You get the people you need to win a championship this year and maybe next year. Plus you find a way to lose Artest
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:47am #492997
TyroberParticipantWhy on earth does Denver send out Carmelo AND a first rounder for a big guy who cant stay healthy, a rookie with high upside, and a horrible contract in Travis Outlaw? I think it may make a little sense but what makes no sense is why you think the Nuggets give a high first rounder to the Lakers
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:47am #493036
TyroberParticipantWhy on earth does Denver send out Carmelo AND a first rounder for a big guy who cant stay healthy, a rookie with high upside, and a horrible contract in Travis Outlaw? I think it may make a little sense but what makes no sense is why you think the Nuggets give a high first rounder to the Lakers
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:54am #493007
AllStar Game BoundFirst off who is gonna play defense at the SF position? Secondly the Lakers win because of the size advantage of having 2 7 foot guys. Third Devin needs the ball alot to be effective he is not stand still pg and isn’t playoff tested one bit. Artest may not score alot but come playoff time he has shown he is the defender we need in order to win
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:54am #493047
AllStar Game BoundFirst off who is gonna play defense at the SF position? Secondly the Lakers win because of the size advantage of having 2 7 foot guys. Third Devin needs the ball alot to be effective he is not stand still pg and isn’t playoff tested one bit. Artest may not score alot but come playoff time he has shown he is the defender we need in order to win
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:55am #493009
jaycee24ParticipantBynum hasn’t missed any time this year and is being under used in LA imo. I mean I Know the trades unlikely but I think it can work. I mean Denvers other 2 options are getting Galinari who is really a 2nd option possibly even 3rd on a championshil team not to say I don’t think he’s good or has potential to be better. Im just sayin wit the trade I came up with Denver gains two big men with legitmate All NBA potential
0- Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 11:37am #493122
elevation1013ParticipantJaycee what u mean Bynum hasn’t missed any time this year? He missed the first month and a half of the season and can’t play more than half the game even when he is "healthy". Denver won’t take on Outlaw’s contract and won’t give up their 1st rounder if they’re rebuilding. I think the Nets’ current package of Favours + four 1sts is much more attractive for Denver than this.
Lakers won’t do this cause it will hurt their chances to win. Like someone said it takes a long time to learn the triangle and be comfortable in that offense due to its complexity so I think the steep learning curve actually hurts them in the short term while losing Bynum will hurt them in the long term. You can’t give up 2 starters and push another (Fish) to the bench and expect the team to play cohesively with good chemistry in time for the playoffs so I don’t think the Lakers would be interested in this.
New Jersey does this deal in a heartbeat and rip off the other two times, assuming Melo signs that extension. Well thought out proposal tho bud, giving you a point for the thought even if it might not actually make sense for everyone involved.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 11:37am #493164
elevation1013ParticipantJaycee what u mean Bynum hasn’t missed any time this year? He missed the first month and a half of the season and can’t play more than half the game even when he is "healthy". Denver won’t take on Outlaw’s contract and won’t give up their 1st rounder if they’re rebuilding. I think the Nets’ current package of Favours + four 1sts is much more attractive for Denver than this.
Lakers won’t do this cause it will hurt their chances to win. Like someone said it takes a long time to learn the triangle and be comfortable in that offense due to its complexity so I think the steep learning curve actually hurts them in the short term while losing Bynum will hurt them in the long term. You can’t give up 2 starters and push another (Fish) to the bench and expect the team to play cohesively with good chemistry in time for the playoffs so I don’t think the Lakers would be interested in this.
New Jersey does this deal in a heartbeat and rip off the other two times, assuming Melo signs that extension. Well thought out proposal tho bud, giving you a point for the thought even if it might not actually make sense for everyone involved.
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- Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:55am #493049
jaycee24ParticipantBynum hasn’t missed any time this year and is being under used in LA imo. I mean I Know the trades unlikely but I think it can work. I mean Denvers other 2 options are getting Galinari who is really a 2nd option possibly even 3rd on a championshil team not to say I don’t think he’s good or has potential to be better. Im just sayin wit the trade I came up with Denver gains two big men with legitmate All NBA potential
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:56am #493011
jaycee24Participantor Denver can just lose melo sorry forgot to mention that
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:56am #493051
jaycee24Participantor Denver can just lose melo sorry forgot to mention that
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:58am #493015
AllStar Game BoundLakers don’t trade Bynum unless they can get a Allstar in return. Thats his Value with his size skill and age
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:58am #493055
AllStar Game BoundLakers don’t trade Bynum unless they can get a Allstar in return. Thats his Value with his size skill and age
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 8:00am #493057
jaycee24ParticipantOdom can play the 3 easily and who knows maybe Kobe as well. But Harris has had experience in Dallas. he probably would have that same type of in LA that he had in his later days in Dallas. Plus Nene is a near 7 footer and humpries would be great to have coming off the bench. but once again this all was just an idea lol
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 8:00am #493017
jaycee24ParticipantOdom can play the 3 easily and who knows maybe Kobe as well. But Harris has had experience in Dallas. he probably would have that same type of in LA that he had in his later days in Dallas. Plus Nene is a near 7 footer and humpries would be great to have coming off the bench. but once again this all was just an idea lol
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 8:02am #493063
jaycee24ParticipantYou might be right…maybe it would take losing this year for the Lakers to make any moves. It may be panic time after this season if they dont win it all or maybe even dont make it to the Finals
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 8:02am #493023
jaycee24ParticipantYou might be right…maybe it would take losing this year for the Lakers to make any moves. It may be panic time after this season if they dont win it all or maybe even dont make it to the Finals
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 8:05am #493065
AllStar Game BoundOdom can not play the Three easily on defense and he is better used at the four where he has a mismatch. Then theres the fact that it takes more than a season to learn the triangle. Nene is only 6’10 that’s not 7 foot. This would easily give Utah a better chance at beating the lakers as well as the thunder. Why would the Lakers want Kobe to play some three and get banged around when he is already breaking down? Boston would eat the Lakers alive with that squad. And on top of all that you dont make big trades like that when you are the defending champion. You don’t try to fix things that aren’t broken
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 8:05am #493025
AllStar Game BoundOdom can not play the Three easily on defense and he is better used at the four where he has a mismatch. Then theres the fact that it takes more than a season to learn the triangle. Nene is only 6’10 that’s not 7 foot. This would easily give Utah a better chance at beating the lakers as well as the thunder. Why would the Lakers want Kobe to play some three and get banged around when he is already breaking down? Boston would eat the Lakers alive with that squad. And on top of all that you dont make big trades like that when you are the defending champion. You don’t try to fix things that aren’t broken
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 8:19am #493067
jaycee24ParticipantWell i mean looks like the Lakers are already broken. If they dont come close to winning it this year I see a Detroit like downfall for them
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/18/2011 - 8:19am #493027
jaycee24ParticipantWell i mean looks like the Lakers are already broken. If they dont come close to winning it this year I see a Detroit like downfall for them
0 - Posted on: Sat, 02/19/2011 - 12:03pm #493910
AllStar Game BoundWhy they look broken?..because they are 3rd in the west in the regular season and have lost games to lower teams? You do know this isn’t the playoffs right?You do know they lost 7 of there last 11 before the playoffs last year right?..I guess they were broken then too huh? You probably though the Cavs would win last year because they killed teams int he regular season huh. The playoffs are a whole different animal and everyone (well some people still are oblivious some how) knows the Lakers don’t focus during the regular season
0 - Posted on: Sat, 02/19/2011 - 12:03pm #493952
AllStar Game BoundWhy they look broken?..because they are 3rd in the west in the regular season and have lost games to lower teams? You do know this isn’t the playoffs right?You do know they lost 7 of there last 11 before the playoffs last year right?..I guess they were broken then too huh? You probably though the Cavs would win last year because they killed teams int he regular season huh. The playoffs are a whole different animal and everyone (well some people still are oblivious some how) knows the Lakers don’t focus during the regular season
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