Raptors showed signs of finding an offensive identity today. Calderon and Lowry split time and took a combined 3 shots ultimately not scoring at all. That being said they were both great distributors and got both Derozan and Ross involved in a big way. Both guards (I refuse to classify Demar as a 3) scored in the twenties and did so on fantastic percentages. Obviously that kind of shooting, especially from deep, doesn't happen everyday.... but I'm impressed that both Ross and Derozan were able to coexist on offense so well. Good win for TO
Derozan drives, Ross shoots from deep. They can mesh.
Also helps not having Bargnani around to chuck up 20 shots per game @ 39% shooting....
Why do you refuse to classify Demar as a SF when he's got the size athleticism, and more importantly he has 2 huge holes in his game on offense which are exposed more playing SG and that's being able to create for teammates and shoot consistently from distance.
If Demar and Ross are able to mesh well on defense they're do great on offense and become one of the most exciting wing tandems in the league.
I used to agree with you, but in the end you can't move a guy to the 3 just in hopes that he takes less deep shots. He has a tendency to get brutalized when guarding bigger players. I think Ross and Demar have a chance to play together but then the Raptors will have to acknowledge that they're giving something up on D.
Hope ya'll are right about these two being a natural mesh.... have to admit I foresaw way too many threes and ball stopping.
I agree with what you said while at the same time I still feel Demar should probably play SF for the above reasons. This all goes back to a simple fact and that's that Demar Derozan is a tremendous scorer with a ton of holes in his game. I think DDR has been miscast and over used because of Toronto's lack of star power and the fact they need a face to put fans in seats. But on most winning teams in this league DDR wouldn't have a green light and wouldn't be playing anywhere near as many minutes as he is getting now.
DDR no doubt has to become tougher and a better rebounder, and he's not always a great finisher despite being able to float in air which to me is incredible.
Demar Derozan does not have the size to guard sf's. He is under 6'7 and weighs less then 220lb.
He's defending SFs better than he's guarding SGs so far this yr.
Thanks for that. I stand corrected. He does let by more boards, but he's better defensively in every other stat. I'm still skeptical that Ross and Demar can produce consistently together, but at least I now know that Demar isn't losing defensive prowess at the 3.
I'm not sure if you realize this but Demar Derozan played SF his whole life and was drafted as a SF. Coming into the league nobody really thought he was going to be able to play SG due to a lack a lateral quickness, and a complete lack of a jump shot coming into the league.
Now people are saying he can't play SF isn't it funny how the world works?
Demar was drafted as a sg .He was projected as having the potential to becoming the next Kobe/Vince player coming in the draft. I'm pretty sure he likely played many position growing up maybe even pf in high school.
Actually NBA.com had him listed as a 6'7" 220 lb SF ironically enough on the Official 2009 Draft Page. http://www.nba.com/raptors/news/2009scoutingreport_demarderozan.html
And Derozan is 6'7" and was 211 pounds at the combine when he was 19, he's 23 now so I'm going to assume he's gained 9 pounds in 3 1/2 years with his work ethic.
And there wasn't anybody comparing him Kobe by the time he entered the draft after his disapointing freshman year at USC. It was evident that he didn't posses neither Kobe's nor Carters all around polish even at an early age. He only made 6 three pointers in college and shot like 64% from the foul line, so his shooting was a huge question mark entering the league. He was good at pulling up from mid range and dunking coming into the league, and a few years later that's really all he still does.
His lateral quickness is pretty good and has the tools to be a very good defender, but his defensive fundamentals isn't on par.
He is below 6'7 by half an inch. I think the NBA labeled him 6'7 out of convenience. I've heard nba commentators say he isn't tall as his listed height, saying he looks closer to 6'5 then 6'7. Demar had a pretty good run his last 5 games in college, I think scoring around 23ppg. So, he did show people he still had potential as a late bloomer. Yeah, you are right, people were comparing him Gerald Wallace a lot coming into the draft too.
The average height and weigth of a small forward is 6'7 224lbs. Demar is 6'7 220 with insane strength and athleticism, how can he not guard small forwards?
Go look at his combine results. So, your saying he is below the height and weight of the average Sf ?
I didn't notice Demar Derozan has insane strength in the NBA as anything ?
I means insane athleticism but he is strong or the 2 guard spot. You do realize those results were when he was 19 right? The average male doesn't stop growing until ages 22-24 so I'm pretty sure he is a legit 6'7 220
I'm not sure why you're still going on about DeMar's size after I pointed out that he's already guarding SFs and guarding them well.
Ok, I'm going to drop the size. So, is he guarding sf full time or is it just part time ? I'm not really a stats person.
He's not a full-time SF, so he hasn't been guarding them full-time.
To me, he's a swingman. Swingmen can play and guard either position. I think the Raps drafted Ross with that same opinion as well. At the SF position DD's not going to be shot over, overpowered or dwarfed on a consistent basis. He has the tools to defend the position.
I actually think his game plays better at the SF position because he can take SFs off the dribble better than he can take SGs. The SF position also isn't associated with being the 2ndary ball-handler so that's a plus for him too.
Males usually stop growing by the age of 20/21. I'm going by what I see with him too.
In terms of height, yes, most stop growing by 21. However, I believe the body still matures as time goes on. I'm 24 and I am much stronger than I was at 21 without much weight training. I'm sure Derozan is much stronger now than he was at 19. Especially when you consider he gets paid to work out.
omg....y r we still going on about demars height??? hes listed at 6'7''.... lets drop it.... dude is a beast of an athlete and he has good size.... end of story