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  • #20414
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    Toronto16
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    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine]http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

    Jose Calderon for Jerryd Bayless and Joel Prizbylla.

    I think this deal is great for both team.  Adds to the young gunz line for Toronto, and Portland gets a great back up for Andre Miller, and is the perfect PG for Brandon Roy.

    Yes, no?

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  • #372176
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    boffacheerios
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    Joel pryzbilla has proven to be a really good insurance policy to greg oden and i doubt he goes for a terrible contract like calderon’s

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  • #372181
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    boffacheerios
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    Joel pryzbilla has proven to be a really good insurance policy to greg oden and i doubt he goes for a terrible contract like calderon’s

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  • #372174
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    Portland needs pryzbilla as a securtiy blanket for Oden and a good backup. at this point, Calderon isnt that much better than a yound Bayless either. So, i don’t see why portland would do this.

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  • #372179
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    Portland needs pryzbilla as a securtiy blanket for Oden and a good backup. at this point, Calderon isnt that much better than a yound Bayless either. So, i don’t see why portland would do this.

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  • #372178
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    But they have Camby, and Joel is just coming off an injury.

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  • #372183
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    Toronto16
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    But they have Camby, and Joel is just coming off an injury.

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  • #372180
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    McWinning
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    Yes thats why i would be willing to do Joel for him.

    But Bayless has too much upside to be in that trade.

    Maybe if there was a three way.

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  • #372185
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    McWinning
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    Yes thats why i would be willing to do Joel for him.

    But Bayless has too much upside to be in that trade.

    Maybe if there was a three way.

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  • #372182
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    mattholdenbrown
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    bad trade for portland

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  • #372187
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    mattholdenbrown
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    bad trade for portland

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  • #372188
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    Toronto16
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    But Portland has showed time and time again that they have no faith in Bayless, and have not giving him the minutes. He has asked for a trade in the past (though he denied it) and I’m sure he would be happier than anybody to get a chance to start.

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  • #372193
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    Toronto16
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    But Portland has showed time and time again that they have no faith in Bayless, and have not giving him the minutes. He has asked for a trade in the past (though he denied it) and I’m sure he would be happier than anybody to get a chance to start.

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  • #372192
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    McWinning
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    But you dont think they can get better value than that if they add Bayless?

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  • #372197
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    McWinning
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    But you dont think they can get better value than that if they add Bayless?

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  • #372196
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    Toronto16
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    A pass first point guard who had only one bad year? He could really help Greg Oden, especially if Oden stays healthy.

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  • #372200
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    Toronto16
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    A pass first point guard who had only one bad year? He could really help Greg Oden, especially if Oden stays healthy.

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  • #372205
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    NO. That’s a bad trade for Portland.

    Why take on Calderon’s deal? I think they could use Bayless alot next season in Portland.

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  • #372209
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    NO. That’s a bad trade for Portland.

    Why take on Calderon’s deal? I think they could use Bayless alot next season in Portland.

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  • #372260
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    flybobbyfly
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    Are the new guys in portland serious? what the F is going on with them.
    Why did they give Matthews such a huge deal and get rid of webster for an unproven rookie that they didnt need. i feel like they arent doing a very good job. they dont really need bayless but losing prizbylla would hurt them. also they dont need calderon or his contract. dumb

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  • #372265
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    flybobbyfly
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    Are the new guys in portland serious? what the F is going on with them.
    Why did they give Matthews such a huge deal and get rid of webster for an unproven rookie that they didnt need. i feel like they arent doing a very good job. they dont really need bayless but losing prizbylla would hurt them. also they dont need calderon or his contract. dumb

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  • #372264
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    NYK2010
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    I agree the Blazers moves this offseason have been questionable.
    No way would I give up on Prizz and Bayless for Calderon.
    Whey would the Blazerw want Calderon he makes 30 mill the next 3 yrs.
    Meanwhile Prizzbilla is expiring and Bayless has 3 more yrs till he’s unrestricted.

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  • #372269
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    I agree the Blazers moves this offseason have been questionable.
    No way would I give up on Prizz and Bayless for Calderon.
    Whey would the Blazerw want Calderon he makes 30 mill the next 3 yrs.
    Meanwhile Prizzbilla is expiring and Bayless has 3 more yrs till he’s unrestricted.

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  • #372270
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    Other than being happy for Bayless and the fact he’ll finally get minutes, I hate this trade. It’s awful for Portland.

    I have no problem with them trading Bayless and Pryzbilla… I just think they could’ve gotten a better deal. Calderon isn’t that good and his contract is terrible.

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  • #372275
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Other than being happy for Bayless and the fact he’ll finally get minutes, I hate this trade. It’s awful for Portland.

    I have no problem with them trading Bayless and Pryzbilla… I just think they could’ve gotten a better deal. Calderon isn’t that good and his contract is terrible.

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  • #372284
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    llperez

    30 mill for the next 3 years to a a backup pg is a lot. And both oden and camby have a history of injuries, Przybilla could be very valuable if they have any more injuries.

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  • #372289
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    llperez

    30 mill for the next 3 years to a a backup pg is a lot. And both oden and camby have a history of injuries, Przybilla could be very valuable if they have any more injuries.

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  • #372296
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    SubZero
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    Marcus Camby is insurance for Joel Pryzbilla, and Joel Pryzbilla is insurance for Greg Oden. It wouldn’t be bad if it was just straight up Calderon for Pryzbilla, but they can get more value than just Calderon when you throw Bayless in the mix. Plus, he’s cheaper than Calderon and has more upside. All they need to do is give him minutes so he can be who they want him to be.

    Also, I think I’ve seen Pryzbilla spelled right like once this whole thread. Lol

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  • #372301
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    SubZero
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    Marcus Camby is insurance for Joel Pryzbilla, and Joel Pryzbilla is insurance for Greg Oden. It wouldn’t be bad if it was just straight up Calderon for Pryzbilla, but they can get more value than just Calderon when you throw Bayless in the mix. Plus, he’s cheaper than Calderon and has more upside. All they need to do is give him minutes so he can be who they want him to be.

    Also, I think I’ve seen Pryzbilla spelled right like once this whole thread. Lol

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  • #372314
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    Zeke33
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    whos the unproven rookie?? if ur talking about Babbitt then you have no idea what kind of game this dude has.

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  • #372319
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    Zeke33
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    whos the unproven rookie?? if ur talking about Babbitt then you have no idea what kind of game this dude has.

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  • #372316
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    McWinning
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    Your right.

    Luke Babbit has already proven hes a superstar by his combine numbers.

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  • #372321
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    McWinning
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    Your right.

    Luke Babbit has already proven hes a superstar by his combine numbers.

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  • #372338
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    ilike.panochas
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    What a dumbass trade for Portland. Do they not realize that they are in the same conference as the Lakers? You need big bodies to have a chance of beating LA, not another backup PG. Portland took a step back after this trade. Pryzbilla, Oden, Camby would have given Bynum and Gasol a tougher time.

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  • #372343
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    ilike.panochas
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    What a dumbass trade for Portland. Do they not realize that they are in the same conference as the Lakers? You need big bodies to have a chance of beating LA, not another backup PG. Portland took a step back after this trade. Pryzbilla, Oden, Camby would have given Bynum and Gasol a tougher time.

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  • #372342
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    ilike.panochas
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    This trade is not official correct? Im confuse lol. Too many trade suggestion threads in here. lol

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    • #372351
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      WizardofOz
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      No this trade wasn’t official. It was just a trade idea made by churchboy1.

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    • #372354
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      WizardofOz
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      No this trade wasn’t official. It was just a trade idea made by churchboy1.

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  • #372347
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    ilike.panochas
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    This trade is not official correct? Im confuse lol. Too many trade suggestion threads in here. lol

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  • #372361
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    joecheck88
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    if portland is holding out for a point guard, i think its going to be chris paul. maybe pryzbilla, bayless, miller, and babbitt for chris paul. calderon is good but like everyone else said they can do better if trading bayless.

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  • #372364
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    if portland is holding out for a point guard, i think its going to be chris paul. maybe pryzbilla, bayless, miller, and babbitt for chris paul. calderon is good but like everyone else said they can do better if trading bayless.

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  • #372448
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    IndianaBasketball
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    “whos the unproven rookie?? if ur talking about Babbitt then you have no idea what kind of game this dude has.”

    Every rookie is unproven until they play a ***NBA*** regular season game and go through the up’s/down’s of the ***NBA*** regular season. I don’t know why you think Babbitt is special… He’s not.

    And to get on Babbitt… What has he proven? Nevada never was the best team in it’s conference the two years he was there… They never made it to the tournament… Never went very far in the NIT either. Nevada never beat anybody of major significance or importance. What exactly has he proven? That he could put up good numbers on a team that never cared about defending? Or that he could test well at the combine? What in the world do you think this kid has proven?

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  • #372454
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    “whos the unproven rookie?? if ur talking about Babbitt then you have no idea what kind of game this dude has.”

    Every rookie is unproven until they play a ***NBA*** regular season game and go through the up’s/down’s of the ***NBA*** regular season. I don’t know why you think Babbitt is special… He’s not.

    And to get on Babbitt… What has he proven? Nevada never was the best team in it’s conference the two years he was there… They never made it to the tournament… Never went very far in the NIT either. Nevada never beat anybody of major significance or importance. What exactly has he proven? That he could put up good numbers on a team that never cared about defending? Or that he could test well at the combine? What in the world do you think this kid has proven?

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  • #372449
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    mikeyvthedon
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    Would make a killing on that trade. Jerryd Bayless is a bonafied scorer, and he has the athleticism to at least keep up with most guards in the league. Throw in Joel, and you make the Blazers a much worse team. Jose is making far too much money and I do not think he has developed as many thought he would. He is a huge defensive liability and would lead to tons of fouls for Greg Oden, similar to Steve Blake, who I think was a better overall defender than Jose. Calderon is a great passer and has a very nice outside shot, but he was much better as a back-up and is being paid far too much for the Blazers to want to use him as one.

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  • #372456
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    Would make a killing on that trade. Jerryd Bayless is a bonafied scorer, and he has the athleticism to at least keep up with most guards in the league. Throw in Joel, and you make the Blazers a much worse team. Jose is making far too much money and I do not think he has developed as many thought he would. He is a huge defensive liability and would lead to tons of fouls for Greg Oden, similar to Steve Blake, who I think was a better overall defender than Jose. Calderon is a great passer and has a very nice outside shot, but he was much better as a back-up and is being paid far too much for the Blazers to want to use him as one.

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  • #373464
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    Zeke33
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    Well everyone says guys like John Wall are so promising…u dont call them unproven. Babbitt will be good and noone said hed be a superstar…I watched Babbitt destroy Renardo Sidney, Samardo Samuels, and James Harden. He dropped 35 over all of them. He’l Be solid and in the right situation be one of the best rookies in the draft

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  • #373477
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    Zeke33
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    Well everyone says guys like John Wall are so promising…u dont call them unproven. Babbitt will be good and noone said hed be a superstar…I watched Babbitt destroy Renardo Sidney, Samardo Samuels, and James Harden. He dropped 35 over all of them. He’l Be solid and in the right situation be one of the best rookies in the draft

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  • #373511
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    Winning_Time
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    I think Bayless is good enough and I’m not sure if Andre Miller would start over Calderon. If they bench Miller then I would consider this trade.

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  • #373498
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    Winning_Time
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    I think Bayless is good enough and I’m not sure if Andre Miller would start over Calderon. If they bench Miller then I would consider this trade.

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  • #373516
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    Demarcus Oneal
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    Sidney didnt even play last year and i doubt he dropped 35 samardo samuels they play different positions and Harden’s never been known for his defense

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  • #373530
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    Demarcus Oneal
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    Sidney didnt even play last year and i doubt he dropped 35 samardo samuels they play different positions and Harden’s never been known for his defense

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