[CavsFan07Participant]

With the Cavaliers sitting at a whopping 2-8, it’s obvious they’re heading right back into the lottery. Varejao, meanwhile, seems to be having a career year and his hustle/effort is matched by only a few in the league. As much as every Cavs fan likes Varejao, he’s clearly our best trade bait and is doubtful to be a part of our long term plans. 

What are some realistic Varejao trade scenarios? 

I fully understand teams aren’t going to overpay for him. However, he would be a valuable addition to any team that wishes to make the playoffs. 

[Anton123Participant]

 It has to be said that I think that the Cavs have played well this year. The only game they really lost was the Chicago game. All the other games were close.

I think they should be fine with keeping Varejao right now. I don’t think Zeller is ready to start and it’s awful seeing Thompson at C. Varejao brings lots of hustle and it often seems contagious, I think it’s good to have him around.

Who can they realistically get for Varejao that can help them more?

[CavsFan07Participant]

The Cavs have definitely been competitive, just coming up a bit short. 

I don’t think trading Varejao is to "find someone that can help them more." It’s more so to potentially get another first rounder, which would add another young player to the rebuilding process. 

However, I agree whole heartedly with your comment concerning Zeller. Anytime Zeller is in with Andy, he plays incredibly hard and they form a pretty unique combination down low. 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 together do play really well together. Is there anywhere you can find stats that detailed? Like if you input player combinations it gives how well thay played together.

I personally hate to say it but I think thay are losing on purpose a little bit. Scott is a good coach both technically and as a manager of men. But he plays the entire second unit for long streches as a single unit. I bet the starting 5 +- is even or pretty close. I wonder why coaches do this and as a coach I never understood it. I could see if certain types of guys play better together like one unit is run and gun and the other is half court. But in the case of the Cavs, its a okay 5 then 5 bench guys all in the the same time who are barely, I mean barely in the League altogether. We want a lottery pick.

Or we are masking the advanced metrics of are starters by never playing them with bench players? 

 

[cryan03Participant]

 What about a Varejao trade to a contender team such as:

Clippers-who could use a back up to DeAndre Jordan because I dk about Ryan Hollins and Ronny Turiaf. 

Grizzles-who do they have behind Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph? Speights? I’d rather have Varejao anyday of the week over Speights.

Boston-could allow them to move Garnett back to PF or bring Varejao off the bench for Bass and then slide Garnett to the PF.

These are 3 teams that come to mind right away. What they could get in return? Possibly a young guy and a future pick?

 

[drk3351Participant]

 Actaully speights played very well in the playoffs last year, and he has a good mid range jumper unlike varejao

[Tight ButtholeParticipant]

League sources said bluntly, that anything involving Varejao is also going to have to move out Luke Walton and his $6 million ending contract and return youth and draft picks. That might be too much to ask, so it’s more likely that Varejao stays where he is, but you never know how another team may view him, especially as the trade deadline gets closer. HoopsWorld

[TyroberParticipant]

 Varejao for Derrick Williams and Brandon Roy? Brandon Roy is obviously done, but his contract isn’t guaranteed for next year. 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 draft pick, I don’t think they should trade him. With the way he has been playing right now, whoever the allstar coach is in the East will pick him up as a reserve. Around then is when his value will be highest, not now when teams can’t truly bank on being contenders six months from now. So many things can happen as far as injuries and teams don’t know how all that plays out.  He has a relatively cheap deal for a starter and ultimate glue guy, 8 million this year and next then a team option for 2014-15.

The Cav’s GM is enamored with draft picks and anything worse than a top 10-12 pick for Varejao is not going to do it for Chris Grant. He would need that and a quality young player/asset. The 2014-15 season is Kyrie Irving’s first year off his rookie deal and when the Cav’s plan to compete for a 4 seed. Andy would still be 32 then and still be able to contribute. If he is not then he is a expiring contract. If not then perhaps next year, he will have a team option and a team could dump him and 8 million off their cap.

Regardless of all the Wild Thing trade speculation I dont see a trade as imminent. All the teams with projected lottery picks wouldn’t think he could get them over the hump and if he did they wouldnt have a lottery pick. If the goal is to trade him, which I dont believe it is, then after the draft positioning process happens is the time to do it. That way you know what you get and he sees Andy go hard every game and every possession so Grant knows what he has even if other teams undervalue him.

Honestly the way he plays right now is comparable to how good Anthony Davis is going to be next year. Right now he is averaging 14 ppg, 13 rebs, 54 fg%, 76 ft%, 3.3 ast, 1 st, and 2 fouls in 35 minutes a game. His effect on the defensive end doesn’t show up in blocks but is a force defensively. Of the 13 rebounds 5 are offensive rebounds. 5 offensie rebounds a game and countless deflections. Improved mid range game and a nice touch. His PER is 23 and EFF +25.   

[SiggyParticipant]

Good post.

I agree. Varejao is the type of player you want your young players to be around and learn from. 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 could have been dealt in the draft to the Warriors for the 7th pick. The details never all got leaked out so we dont know if it included Biedrins, which is a deal killer. I think the Cav’s wanted a straight up deal but who really knows. Regardless it shows the value Chris Grant believes he has in Varejao.

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 could have been dealt in the draft to the Warriors for the 7th pick. The details never all got leaked out so we dont know if it included Biedrins, which is a deal killer. I think the Cav’s wanted a straight up deal but who really knows. Regardless it shows the value Chris Grant believes he has in Varejao.

[mj23mj23besteverParticipant]

 i want a guy like andy v around too mentor the young guys he hustles gives 100 percent every night and never complains imo hes the perfect vet for a rebuidlign team plus every deal thats been rumored the teams want the cavs too take on a bad contract like the beindrins mention 

[the I in winParticipant]

Complained a good deal to get that contract he didn’t deserve at the time

[apb540Participant]

Please do not read this trade and see it as me saying that I think it should, or will, happen.  I just thought it was an interesting idea.  Put any draft picks where you think they go.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ct4u5uv

Amare gets back with Nash and compliments Dwight better imo.  The Knicks get rid of Amare’s contract and get a very good player in return.  Cleveland brings an, albeit aging, all-star into town in an attempt to challenge for the playoffs sooner than expected.

 

[KHAM83Participant]

I’ll like to see Verajo to Denver for Wilson Chandler and Anthony Randolph. Verajo added to that bench, Denver never misses a beat with Faired off the floor in terms of hustling. Chandler and Randolph both meshes well in Cleveland with Kyrie. thinking maybe Denver will give them Mazgov, who can start in Cleveland for now, and Cleveland send Denver Gibson since they need a shooter.

[corneggParticipant]

Varejo for Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem(That’s one suggestion)

or

Varejo & Walton for Arron affalo and Hedo

 

Then amnesty one this summer and make at a run for AL jefferson

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