As things go to a lull after the end of the season, I was just wondering what you guys think about the rookies coming into this season. Also, add rookies that you think will surprise the NBA this season. This is my post in about two years on nbadraft.net so its great being back.
Anthony Davis- 15ppg 10rbg 3bpg - I definitely believe that Anthony Davis is going to be one of the premier players on the New Orlean team and that Monty Williams is going to let him star. But as much as I want him to become a star, I don't think that he will turn into a superstar right away and will need to develop his offensive post game.
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 14ppg 7rpg 1bpg - On draft night I was bummed that MKG was picked by Charlotte because it is an awful system and he is going to lose games often. He is an absolute winner and I think being in washington would have been great for him because he would have had John Wall to rely on instead of having to lead his team rookie year. I am really excited to see him this year and think that he will get many of his points on the break and through hustle, but am still not sure whether he can become a go-to type player.
Bradley Beal 16ppg 4rbg 2apg - I really like what the wizards did with their 3rd pick even thought they already have a pretty solid scorer in Jordan Crawford. Instead of getting a big man in TRob and getting another guy who can bang in the point like Nene and Okafor, they picked an athletic and young scoring guard who can provide for them for years. With Wall and him in the backcourt, the Wizards definitely have a fomiddable backcourt.
Dion Waiters 10ppg 3rpg 1apg - There have been reports of Waiters suddenly being in shape after his lackluster performance in Las Vegas, but I still am not too high on Waiters. I really like that he is an explosive scorer and the cavs managaement compare him to dwayne wade, but I see him as a marcus thornton kind of player. His talent level is definitely there, but I think the biggest negative for Waiters is that people are expecting too much for him at SG even if he only coming in at 6' 2". In his rookie season I see him trying to score a lot, but I feel that he is not going to significantly help the Cavs win games.
Thomas Robinson 15 ppg 9rpg 1bpg - As a die hard kings fan, I would love say that he is going to put up 14 and 11, but with Demarcus totally dominating the glass and paint I feel that his rebounding numbers are going to decrease a little and that he is going to contribute a lot more on the offensive end than people realize. Through watching videos of him training over the summer it looks like he will be able to drain a lot of the 15-20 footers and maybe contribute some of his playing time at SF similar to Thompson did his rookie year.
Damian Lillard 16 ppg 5apg 2rpg - People are definitely hyped up about Damian Lillard's play at summer league and considering him as a ROY candidate as they should; however, especially for guards at summer league, the NBA is a whole other level. Also, i am not only saying this only because of bayless's summer league fluke. In my opinion, lillard may turn into a star, but I feel that he is going to need a year or two before putting up numbers ever close to what he did in summer league.
Harrison Barnes 12 ppg 6rpg 4apg - On an extremely talented Golden State team this year compard to the last half decade, Barnes definitely slipped into the perfect position for him to become successful in the league. In my opinion he will have a shot to win the starting position and solidly contribute to helping the Golden State Warriors win. This year I do not think he is going to wow to many people with a large amount of points since he already has many scorers on the team, but will use his great basketball IQ to help through other ways such as rebounding and dishing.
Terrence Ross 7ppg 4rpg 1spg - Even though my predicted numbers for his rooke season are low, I really like ross's game and ability to shoot and use his athleticism to create his own shot. The one downside to Ross is that I think that there are a lot of players on toronto that have a better shot of getting playing time such as kleiza, fields, and derozan.
Andre Drummond 8ppg 7rpg 1bpg - Drummond is just such a raw prospect coming into the NBA at 18 years old. As most young big men do, I feel that he is going to have a lot of trouble getting into foul trouble his rookie year and is going to have trouble facing people who are longer and stronger than him(especially from getting comfortable being so dominant in HS last year). My one hope for Drummond is that he works hard because he could be awfully special with his size and length.
Austin Rivers 10ppg 6apg 2rpg - During his rookie year I believe that Rivers is definitely going to put up a lot of points often, but may look to score too much. With Ryan Anderson and Anthony Davis on his team it will be a lot easier to drive, look for his shot, and dish. With the possibilty of getting hte starting nod over jarret jack which I believe will take time, look I think that he will put up solid numbers this season.
These are solid predictions I disagree with a few.
First I don't see Beal averaging 16ppg and I actually see him struggling slightly to live up to the 3rd pick when guys like Barnes, Lamb, and even Waiters might have an easier time transitioning to the league. Barnes shot lights out from beyond the arc in summer league but struggled to finish inside the arc. Lamb looked amazing coming off screens and scorched the nets from midrange during the summer league. Waiters didn't go through any workouts and was really out of shape. But if you saw him recently he looks completely different.
I think Waiters will have a better rookie season then Beal and here is why. Waiters in an underrated shooter who shot 36% from 3 while taking more then half of his shots from that distance. Waiters is not 6'2" he's a rock solid 6'4" with borderline elite quickness and shiftiness. Waiters has pro ready scoring moves and is a way better ball handler then Beal plus he's more creative. I could see Waiters averaging around 14ppg but he's also going to average around 3apg because he averaged over 2apg in college while only playing 24mpg and being the primary scorer while he was on the floor.
If Drummond get's enough minutes to average 8ppg he's also going to average 2bpg. I wouldn't be surprised if Drummond put up similar numbers this year as he did last year with UConn.
I don't see River's averaging 6apg. I could see him averaging like 12 and 4 possibly. It all depends on how quickly he picks things up but Rivers got a lot of game and is a potential star.
I have a feeling Thomas Robinson is going to struggle early on especially if he insist on taking 15 foot jumpers instead of getting in the paint.
On a side note Maalik Waynes looked fantastic in Sixers camp. He's deadly in the open court, playing great defense, and finding open teammates while also hitting his shots at a high clip. If he played on a team that wasn't so deep he would of had a chance to be this year's Isaiah Thomas.
the only way drummond is gnna aveage 8 and 7 is during the month of april...................... when the pistons arent gnna make the playoffs and hes gnna be given mintues
Hmm, these really seem far too NBA2K type rookie numbers, after the rookie was edited to a higher rating lol.
Miles Plumlee - 82 DNPs
i think beal's number would be higher, because of the 14 games he could miss, although he would have a poor percentage maybe around 40% becuase he would force some shots,
18 to 20 points per game with 37-45% shooting percentage
tough crowd... lol. I was just making a fun post to gauge where others saw rookies doing this season. I didn't really spend too much time calculating the exact points per game, but wanted to at least put forth effort to postively contribute to the forum
Jarrett Jack plays for the Warriors now
If Beal scores 18-20 on the season ill be astonished
Durant barely averaged 20, and he was twice as good as beal is right now when he was at texas
Dion will end up the best sg of this class
Davis - 12 PPG 9 RPG 3 BPG
MKG - 9 PPG 6 RPG 3.5 APG
Beal - 14 PPG 4 RPG 3 APG
Waiters - 7 PPG 3 RPG 2 APG
T-Rob - 13 PPG 8 RPG 1.5 BPG
Lillard - 16 PPG 2.5 RPG 6 APG
Barnes - 13 PPG 5 RPG 2 APG
Ross - 6 PPG 3 RPG 1.5 APG
Drummond - 5 PPG 3.5 RPG 1 BPG
Rivers - 9 PPG 3 RPG 3 APG
Leonard - 8 PPG 5 RPG 1.5 BPG
Lamb - 12 PPG 3 RPG 2 APG
Marshall - 6 PPG 2 RPG 5 APG
Henson - 8 PPG 5 RPG 2 BPG
Harkless - 4 PPG 2 RPG 1 APG
Valanciunas - 6 PPG 5 RPG 1.5 BPG
Sullinger - 7 PPG 4 RPG 1 APG
Wroten - 3 PPG 1 RPG 1.5 APG
Moultrie - 4 PPG 3 RPG 0.5 APG
PJ3 - 6 PPG 4 RPG 1 APG
IMO, the top 15 will go:
1.Anthony Davis-12.9ppg 7.7rpg 2.2apg 2.6bpg
2.Damian Lillard-16.1ppg 2.8rpg 5.4apg 36%3pt
3.Harrison Barnes-13.3ppg 5.9rpg 2.2apg
4.Tyler Zeller-11.6ppg 7.2rpg 1.7apg 1.1bpg
5.Bradley Beal- 13.3ppg 4.1rpg 1.6apg
6.MKG-12.6ppg 6.6rpg 3.1apg 1.6spg .6bpg
7.Dion Waiters-13.1ppg 2.6rpg 2.1apg
8.Austin Rivers-11.2ppg 2.5rpg 1.5apg
9.Doron Lamb-8.6ppg 2.1rpg 1.4apg
10.Donatas Motiejunas-9.1ppg 4.4rpg 1.3apg .7bpg
11.Jared Sullinger-8.6ppg 5.5rpg 1.1 apg
12.Terrence Jones-8.6ppg 4.6rpg 1.1apg
13.T-Rob-6.9ppg 5.5rpg .7apg .7bpg
14.Draymond Green-6.6ppg 3.3rpg 1.7apg
15.Darius Miller- 7.1ppg 3.3rpg 1.1apg 36%3pt 50+starts
I meant top 15 as in order drafted
ahh....didn't notice that. Sorry