ESPN has just reported that Royce White is willing to walk away from the NBA if his health is much more of a concern than his career. On one hand I feel for this guy; his anxiety disorder is no laughing matter and its something very hard to cope with. On the other I'm upset at him for even wasting all the NBA teams time in interviewing him and making the rockets waste a pick on him. If he couldn't handle the NBA life, then why enter the draft? This guy is an amazing and unique talent; but the only thing we may have to remember him by is his exciting summer league play
Well he certainly isnt going to fly away.....
It's a shame, it just shows that you are only as strong as your mind lets you. Too bad he can't over come the mental problem.
If I was him, I'll try to play as long as I can, because he will never make that kinda money every again. I don't know much about his disorder, but if it's that bad having a regular job might be just as tough or tougher.
Well playing basketball itself is easy for him, it's the stuff that comes along with being an NBA player that he has issues with (flying, media attention, fame). I'm sure he will do fine outside of NBA, he seems like a good guy with a college degree.
We all know people that went to school and skipped every other day, but still pass by getting the grades. The real world doesn't work like that. Every job has stress, even on those messed up hectic days we need to show up to handle it.
Did anyone watch grant land about Royce white? During his draft party in the Iowa state gym Royce was having a panic attack from all the people(100 or so) and had to watch the draft in the coaches office. So his anxiety disorder is extremely bad
What does he want from the Rockets? For them to tell him to not come to practice or fly to games and just keep the pay checks coming? If you read some of his tweets he is coming off as an ignorant idiot. I know and understand he has an anxiety disorder, but there is no need to publicly say all of this mess. He is trying to make the Rockets look bad when he is the one with the problems. If he doesn't want to play in the NBA he shouldn't have put his name in the draft.
I'm not sure what White wants from the Rockets. I guess in his mind they aren't living up to the agreement they made. Hopefully they can work it out soon, because I can't see anyone putting up with him not showing up and criticizing the team publicly for long.
there is more to being a pro athlete then being able to play the game. If he doesnt have what it takes to be a pro basketball player, then he shouldnt be there. Not being able to deal with pressure/flights/attention/etc... is no different then not being able to dribble/shoot/defend. It all comes with the job. And make no mistake, being a pro athlete is still a job.
Call me insensitive, but i still dont beleive that these anxiety/panic attacks are a legit disease. It sounds to me more like a personality trait. Its like if someone is shy/outgoing/friendly/mean etc... i just dont see it as a disease. Its stuff that makes him scared. Some people are more likely to get scared then others.
"Call me insensitive, but i still dont beleive that these anxiety/panic attacks are a legit disease. It sounds to me more like a personality trait."
Is it somehow more shameful to have a innate trait than a "legit" disease? Should the later be treated and the former not? And what is a "disease", exactly? Not an easy question.
Stupid &$#%#&@!. You don't think anxiety/panic disorder is a real disease!
read the article, it doesnt say anything that makes me change my mind. It doesnt say there is anything that can be measured/diagnosed/seen through a microscope. It sounds like a mental issue which brings me back to my opinion that it is a personality trait. Everything about us can be summed up as mental coniditions.
"Everything about us can be summed up as mental coniditions."
Sure, the brain is the command center of our bodies and control every action. It is difficult to control actions when neural activity and brain pathways have been repeated and reinforced, not just throughout your entire life, but for generations and generations before. His mother, grandmother, and most likely others before all suffered from the same mental condition. To imply that his condition isn't a disease is dumb. Also pretty dumb of Royce White to choose a career where all you do is travel (on a plane) and perform in front millions of people on a daily basis. Also dumb of Rockets to draft him, knowing his condition, and not really support him. The Chicago Bears are a taking a number of steps to help Brandon Marshall and his mental condition.
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- medical condition: a condition in humans, plants, or animals that results in pathological symptoms and is not the direct result of physical injury
- specific disorder: a disorder in humans, animals, or plants with recognizable signs and often having a known cause
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This really ticks me off. Some of you have no idea of the serious of his disorder. It is a real thing not some lame excuse or little problem. Get informed before you make uneducated comment attacking Royce. If you want to attack anyone, attack the Rockets administration for not being able to properly handle his disorder and use the pick in a DEEP draft.
I don't think we should blame the Rockets for picking him. He did put his name in the draft. The Rockets took a chance on a huge upside player, because if he didn't have the disorder he would have gone eariler in the draft.
My biggest thing with this is that like it's been said he tries to avoid attention and stressful situations (seen in that Grantland doc) but the things he posted on Twitter and his statements through a publicist is just brining more focus and attention to himself, which brings scrutiny. I don't get why he's speaking out in such a manner when he should be avoiding the stress
what mad me mad was that he told the Rockets he was entiteled to playing time becuase it would be easier on his condition, What?
the guy is willing to throw away a dream job to " help" people, but he is accualy making a negative impact, best thing for him, and the "community" would be for him to play, and do well!
^Exactly. Showing people how he overcame his anxiety disorder would be MUCH MUCH more than him walking away because people didn't bend over backwards to help him in any way they could.
This would be such a disappointment, he's faced so many barriers and walls just to get an NBA contract and now he is weighing up retirement (again).
This story should be taken seriously because there are legit reasons why he could walk, the Rockets have been fining him everyday he doesn't attend training, it appears neither side is going to blink, the neanderthals who have nothing better to than assault him and his health is being thrown into the question. If he does retire, he could be one of the biggest 'what ifs' in NBA history. Hopefully, the Rockets and White agree to a speedy resolution if not, the Harlem Globetrotters' offer could be a comfortable and less stressful of an earner for Royce.
It's a complicated issue. We don't know exactly what the Rockets have done, and we don't know what he has done. Furthermore, it is really hard to evaluate unless you know the specifics of his disorder.
The rockets knew they were taking a risk. I'm thinking that Morey has every motivation to help White long term. He is one of the best GMs in the league.
Who knows. The Rockets might be flexible with him. But at what point does it become ridiculous? Where do you draw the line? e.g. If Royce shows up for 60% of the games and 40% of practices, do you give him the same playing time as the equivalent player who is 100% commited? Let's not forget that the Rockets are a team, so White's situation affects the other players and the entire organization.
I really hope White makes it.
I'll start this post by saying I have anxiety... although not as bad as Whites. I understand the condition more then most.
With that said, White knew that he wanted to play in the NBA. He also knew that there will be times that the NBA lifestyle would aggravate his condition. All I can say is Suck it up! People with anxiety tend to thrive in routine and repetitive environments. The NBA lifestyle was never going to be like that. I've read Royce's twitter comments and like other posters have said, he is using his condition as an excuse. He needs to fight harder to get through this. Houston has obviously made a commitment to make this transition as easy as possible but Royce is going to have to get used to being uncomfortable with all the new situations that will arise as a result of being in the NBA. It is a partnership which requires "special treatment" however that special treatment does not include being given playing time. That is a selffish request.
I don't know how Royce has developed throughout training camp. I'd like to know what Royce is bringing to the table? Is he an engaging teammate. Is he working hard in practice? Is he trying to make new friendships. Is he trying to make an effort to get used to all the new experiences? ...Or is he balking at everything "new" because it gives him a panic attack?
This was bound to happen. It is going to be uncomfortable... but Royce needs to push through, take a deep breath and get used to it. Such is life in the NBA.
Maybe he should call Ricky Williams and ask how he dealt with it?
If you have anxiety and are a pro basketball player, you have no need for Twitter.
Can't blame him for trying. He thought he could handle it but he's starting to understand he can't. Those who say "suck it up" are obviously ignorant to having something like this. And the person who has anxiety lets put you in a situation where you can't control it and feel like you are losing you're mind and then we all say suck it up because there are others out there who can
If White doesn't "suck it up", he will be out of the league in no time. You cannot make progress without taking a first step. Sometimes that first step is incredibly scary, as it likely is in Royce's situation, but does that mean its ok not to succeed? White has no choice. He must face his fears and conquer his deamons or he will be just a foot note in NBA history. To that end I stand by my opinion that in the interest of Whites long term goals, well being and overall quality of life it is imparative that he "Sucks it up" and finds a way to get through it. Everything will get easier the more often he goes through the motions... but it all starts with those first steps.
At this time White wants to do things his way and have the Rockets, the fans and the NBA change everything about their culture to suit his needs because he has anxiety. This is a poor attitude. You don't ask the world to change for you, you try to fit into what the world is doing the best you can. Take a deep breath, close your eyes and just take that first step. Telling someone with anxiety "its ok", is a disservice to the individual. Its like telling a compulsive gambler "its ok". It promotes an attitude of entitlement and selffishness which anyone would grow to embrace. Mental illness or not, who doesn't enjoy taking the easy way when its an option thats given to you? That is a character trait in all of us. White is no different. Its time for some real personal growth in his chosen profession. No one forced White to become a pro ball player. This is what he wants to do. There are some unique sacrifices that need to be made on his part to make this a reality.
If White really cared about his disorder he would meet with the team recommended doctor to "get healthy" as he has so often said is important. What White really wants is to be left alone so he can do things "his way". The Rockets can't be expected to pay someone with a mental illness millions of dollars to come and go as they please, or someone who try's to force their way into playing time because its "good for their health". The NBA is full of guys who couldn't get off the bench in their first few years in the league. Why should White be any different if he's not good enough at the moment? Why not use that as fuel and work harder for the respect of your teammates and coaches? Why instead would White insist that he deserves something different then everyone else? In his mind, I suppose White had a vision for how things would work. He probably thought as a result of being drafted 16th that he would be assured of playing time from the get go. Its probably a shock that it hasn't happened. There in lies the problem of being a Pro ball player with anxiety. Shock and Surprise is part of pro sports. Get used to it... or get used to saying "want fries with that?" instead.
Lets say the Rockets are in the playoffs and its late in the game with Royce at the line. If I'm on the opposite team I'm going to be talking in his ear like I would anyone else. "Don't miss those." "You scared?" "Don't have a panic attack there big guy." Its harsh, but I'm paid to win, not to care about Whites feelings or condition.
Toughen up, Suck it up, Move forward and Get through it. There is no other way to succeed if you want to be a player in the NBA.
Royce White still has no excuse for not showing up to practice and meetings with his psychiatrist. Unless for some reason he has to fly to practice and psychiatrist meetings, White needs to show the Rockets he has a level of committment to making things work. White decided not to report to training camp because he needed to work out a travel deal...that was a bad move. White had a ton of time to try to make such arrangements prior to camp and not showing up to training camp doesn't help smooth things out.
I understand White has a mental illness and that's a huge reason he needs to see the psychiatrist rather than skipping those sessions. Also like anyone else who is sick and won't be going to work...at the very least you need to make a call to tell your employer you won't be there and why. I think Houston is absolutely correct in beginning to fine White for basically not going to work. For nearly every employee of any business, if you aren't showing up to work without notifying the boss...you won't be working there much longer.