Sources: Grizzlies Explore Rudy Gay Trade Scenarios
Jan 04, 2013 4:24 PM EST
The Memphis Grizzlies have held preliminary trade talks over the past few weeks centered on Rudy Gay, according to sources.
John Hollinger and Jason Levien have recently joined the Grizzlies' front office, while Chris Wallace's level of influence on personnel decisions is unclear.
Gay signed an $84 million contract in 2010 and is making $16.4 million this season.
Gay's name also surfaced in trade rumors before the 2012 NBA Draft.
Where do you think Rudy Gay will end up? Warriors? Raptors? Or do you guys see him ending somewhere else?
Prior to the season I would have said I hope the Raptors grab him, but recently watching DeRozan and Ross, I hope they didn't give any of them up for Gay. The way DeRozan approaches the game has improved ever since he came into the league. I think he is doing the same as Gay at a lower price and Ross RIGHT NOW is the best SG out of the lottery.
I would love to see him in a raps uniform, as long as its not at the expense of Ross Let's package up bargnani and derozon and get him. (Obviously would need fillers) but this is still a stretch, they would want Ross...
why would somebody trade for him isnt he ... Gay?
why would somebody trade for him isnt he ... Gay?
I don't know how a trade or a simple player swap would work, but Andre Iguodala would be perfect in Memphis.
Rudy Gay's diminished role as a 2nd even 3rd option (depending on how you look at Gasol and Randolph) has discouraged his game and you can clearly see it. The effort at both ends is down this season. He's still has youth on his side and we all know he has a rediculous amount of physical gifts as well as skills. He's not playing up to his contract and perhaps it's best for both sides to mutually part ways. Memphis can get a ton for Rudy Gay and it may be what they need to do to take it to the next level. Who they trade him to, and for who is the question.
Super funny. But I digress. My biggest thing is where is the best fit/trade partner? I honestly don't see a lot of viable options from a fan perspective. I don't really want to play fantasy GM as most the time, I don't see anything rational on this site but i'll try. Maybe Sac or Utah would be good fits? Reke and parts for Gay seem pretty reasonable. Utah has the trade chips. Maybe Baaaston or Toronto? I jus don't know. I'm sure though that Hollinger's bald a$$ is crunchin numbers as we speak.
How the Kings should hop on this. But of course you know the Kings are all about getting worse not getting better. No really though it sounds like a perfect way to dump off Evans and a few other players.
i'd like to see the suns possibly use the picks they have to try and make a move for gay, but i'm not sure what else memphis would want from phoenix.
I think a bad team could look at getting him to turn their team around with Gay being their go to guy. Out of the bad teams, I could see Detroit, Milwaukee, Washington, or Phoenix having the pieces to lure Memphis into trading. I was just playing around on the trade machine and the most intriguing trade I came up with was with Detroit.
Memphis trades Gay for Stuckey, Prince, Daye, English, and probably a pick or something.
Memphis Lineup: Conley(Bayless), Allen(Stuckey), Prince(Daye), Randolph(Arthur), Gasol(Speights).
Memphis gets a solid veteran player to fill Gay's void in Prince. They also get Stuckey to be their 6th man who is better than Bayless. Daye and English both have potential and are both very good 3pt shooters who can spread the floor when Z-Bo and Gasol do their work down low.
Detroit Lineup: Knight(Bynum), Singler(Maggette), Gay(Jerebko), Maxiell(Villanueva), Monroe(Drummond)
Detroit gets rid of Stuckey who has kinda worn out his welcome. Prince is getting to old for a rebuilding team. Gay will be there new face and should jump start their rebuilding.
To be honest, why would they look to trade him?
The Grizzlies are doing great with him and Z-Bo/Gasol/Conley/Allen. They're a great team to watch and are legit.
I mean, here's a team that their main weakness is scoring and they're going to get rid of their most versatile scorer? Just doesn't make sense to mess with something that isn't broken.
I'd agree with you, it could be a locker room deal. Because it seems like these rumours pop up every year.
Memphis played it's best basketball without Rudy Gay in the lineup. It's because they were playing unselfish inside outside basketball. They were playing through Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol, arguably the best big man combo in basketball.
It's still early in the season, but I just don't think Gay has really bought in. His ball stopping and hero ball ways makes the offense too stagnant. I was hoping he'd close some of the holes up in his game to really make this team a legit championship contender.
Memphis is paying a lot of money to Randolph, Gay, Gasol and Mike Conley. Gay isn't really working out, so they're probably looking to cut his salary and bring in a more affordable piece that fits the way they want to play.
I wonder if there is a way the Lakers can get him. I know Gasol would not work but maybe another 3 team deal. Lakers could use another scorer that is young like him. He may not help on the defensive end but you have to believe Kobe will have him playing offensively at a better level.
Oh god the why do people think the lakers can get EVERY big name that's available? What would try trade??? They have no draft picks, young studs, or nice young shooters that Memphis desperately needs.Memphis doesn't want Pau, they already have the better Gadol and him and Z-Bo are on of the best 1 2 punches in the league
Everybody is scared of those luxury taxes. It's why the Lakers thought about moving Gasol last year and absent of a championship they will move him this summer. The Thunder where scared with the Harden extension and the Knicks were terrified of the eventual Lin tax implications. Iggy would be a good trade but Denver is paying a lot of money to small forwards and while Iggy is playing a lot of shooting guard idk if Gay is capable of any extended time at the 2 and Memphis should want more than just Iggy. Maybe Tyreke Evans, Thornton and Fredette and even then I would say I want to swap Darell Arthur for Thomas Robinson has to be included if I was Memphis. .
Anything less than what OKC got for Harden is not enough! Maybe a little less because his deal is so big but not much, maybe a top 5 protected lottery pick instead of a top 3.
I think they need to find a way to fit Gay into this inside-out offense. He is like Cousins, in that he is so talented that their is know way to get fair market value for him.
Dammn Chris Grant and his insatiable appetite for first round picks. The Cav's were interested in him before but we don't have anybody that Memphis could even remotely use. Maybe in the Summer if Memphis or Rudy struggles in the playoffs and we can offer Shabazz and some assets. Indiana mentioned hero ball and I've only seen like two Grizzly games but I can imagine that Rudy Gay has a bad case of that disease, he had it for years. Regardless of the teams struggles with Gay in the line up, if that's the case they are better off with him than anything they can get for him. He's a gamer and hits big shots, they will be happy to have him in the playoffs.
I can certainley see them actually trading Gay this year. Theyre just as formidable team without himr like they were without -ayo startimg. They play inside out on offense and tough defense trading him could haul in a better piece to there puzzle.
Because the Brizz are built to contemd I can see them trading him out east.
The Bucks are an interesting. They have the pies to pull a trade off. Memphis was known to lile aEllis, Luc Muc would fit perfectly in there system, as would homegrown Tobias Harris and Dunleavy. Throw in one of the Bucks shot blockibg bigs and its clear the Bucks are a team to keep an eye on.
Id actually like to see go to a bad team to see his true scoring potential. Also Gay is 6'" wit a 7'4" wingspan and could easily play PF in the East.
The Cavs be a great fit tho would Memphis wwant Andy and Gee?
Maybe the Magic for Hzrkless, Big Baby, Hedo and Redick.
Boston is an interesting scenario
Wow, so many typos... From what I made out it seems like these teams are a possibility but I don't see Milwaukee pulling the trigger or Orlando.
Yes there are I was typin from my phone and the touch screen has a mind of its own. Insteadof rereading it it kept zoomin in and out..smh...apologies.
Also I wanted to say Gay is a legit 6'9" and has more then enough length and athleticism to play PF. Look at Thad Young playing PF so tough, Gay despite theyre listings at 6'8 is actually 2 inches taller then Thad with a 5 inch wingspan difference.
I can't imagine they'll be many takers for Gay unless teams get to unload multiple bit players for him. Gay wasn't worth his contract before he got a max deal and he's now playing worse than before he got it. He's really been the same player for all these years: inefficient, not a playmaker and not a difference maker on defense.
There does seem a few nice fits out East for Gay, I like the Detroit suggestion from above and something around Maggette's expiring deal, Prince and a young piece/draft pick/right to swap draft picks could be interesting.
Cleveland need an SF and could send Walton, Gibson (both expiring deals) a young piece and a couple of the picks they are owed.
Orlando have Turko and Reddick to balance a trade out and with picks due can send Memphis extra sweeteners.
Charlotte lack a go to scorer alongside Kemba Walker and if they could fit Gay in alongside MKG then that could be another possibility, some combo of Diop, Gordon, Warwick could be used to balance the trade with Charlotte either sending the first rounder due from Detroit or giving Memphis right to swap picks this year.