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- Posted on: Sun, 12/12/2010 - 10:01pm #23967
FastAndFuriousParticipantSomebody, anybody that truely knows if there is a difference between being fast and quick??
I have read countless things and have heard countless things and I still dont know if there is a difference……
For instance I read there is a difference Fast is being able to run with or without the ball at top speed
While quick is being very agile and able to move west and east as opposed to moving north and south
Then I get confused when I read being quick also has to do with how quickly one can accelerate at top speed
Then I read being quick and agile is not the same thing becase quick is being able to move quickly, while agile is moving fluidly and under control
Now I know fast when I see it….Derrick Rose, Ty Lawson jump straight to mind
Quick………Rondo, Westbrook
And I see guys who are faster than they are quick, like for instance Lebron is as fast as they come I would think, but I know he cant move with the ball and do crossovers as quick as Iverson or Rose could, u get what im saying?
Or I know that chris paul is quick as most guards but his open court speed isnt as fast as he is quick.
But is there really a difference between quick and fast???
Looking for detailed answers if possible thanks!
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/12/2010 - 10:12pm #456668
llperezit seems like you kind of covered it all. Qucik is change of speed, change of direction, how qucik you can accelrate. Fast is how fast you can go. But its kind of a nitpicky topic. Not too many pro athletes are gonna be exceptional at one and not the other.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/12/2010 - 10:12pm #456685
llperezit seems like you kind of covered it all. Qucik is change of speed, change of direction, how qucik you can accelrate. Fast is how fast you can go. But its kind of a nitpicky topic. Not too many pro athletes are gonna be exceptional at one and not the other.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/12/2010 - 10:14pm #456672
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participantllperez
Guys like Terrell Owens are very fast, but at this stage of his career, not as quick
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/12/2010 - 10:14pm #456689
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participantllperez
Guys like Terrell Owens are very fast, but at this stage of his career, not as quick
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/12/2010 - 10:23pm #456678
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantEnter Bynum, he’s not that fast, but he’s quick in the post.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/12/2010 - 10:23pm #456695
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantEnter Bynum, he’s not that fast, but he’s quick in the post.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/12/2010 - 10:27pm #456682
FastAndFuriousParticipantI guess im basically asking why are some guys fast but not quick or quick but not fast?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/12/2010 - 10:27pm #456699
FastAndFuriousParticipantI guess im basically asking why are some guys fast but not quick or quick but not fast?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/12/2010 - 11:03pm #456711
creepingdefParticipantQuick and fast are generally the same thing, because it’s all about velocity. From a subjective point of view, "Quick" is usually over small distances and small periods of time, and "Fast" is over longer distances and periods of time. If you take Jamal Crawford for example, he isn’t the "fastest", but if you see him pull of a shake and bake you’d say it was quick because of the change of direction and general unexpectedness.
Guys who are fast are usually running straight the whole time, quickness is usually more about a sudden change of direction and unexpected move.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/12/2010 - 11:03pm #456694
creepingdefParticipantQuick and fast are generally the same thing, because it’s all about velocity. From a subjective point of view, "Quick" is usually over small distances and small periods of time, and "Fast" is over longer distances and periods of time. If you take Jamal Crawford for example, he isn’t the "fastest", but if you see him pull of a shake and bake you’d say it was quick because of the change of direction and general unexpectedness.
Guys who are fast are usually running straight the whole time, quickness is usually more about a sudden change of direction and unexpected move.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/13/2010 - 1:41am #456722
MuggsyParticipantFast generally refers to breakaway/top speed. Quickness is more of an agility factor, it can also be a mental factor i.e. how quick you can react to a ball handler, or a loose ball, etc.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/13/2010 - 1:41am #456739
MuggsyParticipantFast generally refers to breakaway/top speed. Quickness is more of an agility factor, it can also be a mental factor i.e. how quick you can react to a ball handler, or a loose ball, etc.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/13/2010 - 2:59am #456734
Mr. 19134ParticipantYeah dude you covered it in your initial statement. If you want mathematical proof look up combine numbers. Lane agility scored will tell you how quick somebody is and 3/4 court spring scored will tell you how fast somebody is.
For instance: Demarcus Cousins can’t beat Derrick Favors down court as evidenced by Favors having like a 3.21 3/4 sprint which is guard speed compared to Cousins 3.54. But Cousins tested very well in the lane agility at 11.06 as compared to Favors 11.72. I’m going off memory bet those numbers should be close to accurate. But in game you can see the difference as Favors will beat people out on the fast break, but Cousins will beat people down low with a quick spin move on nimble footwork.
Another correlation is that players who have great lane agility scores are usually great on ball defenders. Like Jrue Holiday isn’t the fasted guard down court but he is one of the quickest footed guards and is able to stay infront of most elite guards. Some players test out great at both and then there are players that test out exceptionally great at both. 3 players that come to mind are Westbrook, Eric Gordon, and Sonny Weems. Sonny Weems has amazing combine scored and you can see the potential in him this year on the Raptors. Another combine stud was Jodie Meeks who is also starting to break out finally. I always knew Meeks could shoot but once i saw his combine scored I thought that he is going to be a nightmare to guard coming off screens. And he is becoming one.
Quickness and speed is most evident in big players tho. Blake Griffin is a guy who is rarely gifted with both and you can see it clear as day when he plays.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/13/2010 - 2:59am #456751
Mr. 19134ParticipantYeah dude you covered it in your initial statement. If you want mathematical proof look up combine numbers. Lane agility scored will tell you how quick somebody is and 3/4 court spring scored will tell you how fast somebody is.
For instance: Demarcus Cousins can’t beat Derrick Favors down court as evidenced by Favors having like a 3.21 3/4 sprint which is guard speed compared to Cousins 3.54. But Cousins tested very well in the lane agility at 11.06 as compared to Favors 11.72. I’m going off memory bet those numbers should be close to accurate. But in game you can see the difference as Favors will beat people out on the fast break, but Cousins will beat people down low with a quick spin move on nimble footwork.
Another correlation is that players who have great lane agility scores are usually great on ball defenders. Like Jrue Holiday isn’t the fasted guard down court but he is one of the quickest footed guards and is able to stay infront of most elite guards. Some players test out great at both and then there are players that test out exceptionally great at both. 3 players that come to mind are Westbrook, Eric Gordon, and Sonny Weems. Sonny Weems has amazing combine scored and you can see the potential in him this year on the Raptors. Another combine stud was Jodie Meeks who is also starting to break out finally. I always knew Meeks could shoot but once i saw his combine scored I thought that he is going to be a nightmare to guard coming off screens. And he is becoming one.
Quickness and speed is most evident in big players tho. Blake Griffin is a guy who is rarely gifted with both and you can see it clear as day when he plays.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/13/2010 - 6:18am #456826
PureshooterParticipantQuickness – Foot speed and ability to change direction.
Fast – Straight ahead sprinting speed.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/13/2010 - 6:18am #456843
PureshooterParticipantQuickness – Foot speed and ability to change direction.
Fast – Straight ahead sprinting speed.
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