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  • #37572
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    festar35
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    Both guys are on a tear offensively, my question is who would you rather have and who you think will be better over next 5years?

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  • #649880
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    omphalos
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    Stuckey all the way. He’s a better passer, has better size to defend 2-guards, and his shot selection is nowhere near as bad as Thornton’s is. I’d take pretty much anyone over Thornton to be honest, I just don’t think he’s going to win you a lot of games unless it’s as a spark plug off the bench, except he’s a volume shooter who needs to get into a rhythm to score efficiently.

    In 5 years I’m not sure if Thornton will be in an NBA rotation, let alone competing with Stuckey.

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  • #649886
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    yeah,i agree with omphalos..thorton would drive a veteran coach like greg popovich crazy with his shot selection….

    stuckey also has holes in his game,but he’s a better player then thorton…

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  • #649893
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    BasketBalAllan
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    You would think Thorton pulled a Delonte on your mother or something by that description. Is this the same Thornton who puts up 19-2-4? I can see taking shots at his defense and shot selection, but his D is lacking because he tends to slack off his man when they are off the ball. He is not a terrible defender (I have seen Kevin Martin and Jimmer play D) and though he takes unwise shots, he shoots a measly 1% less in fg% than Stuckey. I do not know how you can fault Thornton’s ability to be a game changer, he was by far the best player on the court in the Kings last two games, both wins, and has stepped up big multiple times to win the Kings a close game since he came to Sac at the end of last season. It is also hard to see a clear advantage to being 6’5 and 205 lbs vs. 6’4 and 205 lbs (the difference between Stuckey and Marcus). If I was going to choose a player between the two it would be close but I would probably end up taking Thornton. I feel he has more passion and with the right coaching (like a Popovich) he would blossom into a better player than Stuckey. How could you think a player who has been in the NBA less than 3 years, and puts up those types of numbers, wont even be able to find a spot in the league after his current 4 year deal runs out?

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  • #649895
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     i also don’t think thorton plays a brand of winning basket, but his talents are much welcomed on a lot of teams. every player in sac is eager to shoot, and a somewhat ball dominant, volume scorer is jut not what they need. thorton posses the ability to make tough shots (bad shots) and shoot off the dribble, something a lot of teams need. like omphalus said he would be a great guy off the bench, for instant offense. i don’t see how he is not going to be in the league in 5 years. popovich would do wonders with thorton off the bench…… great coaches are able to do this. 

    with that said, stuckey is the better player, including defensive

    edit: we posted the same thing ^ i didn’t see your post before mine…….. popovich would make thorton a much better player!!!!

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  • #649905
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    Interesting question since they’re roughly the same age, position and size but play different styles.

    Stuckey is the better straight-up, man-to-man defender while Thornton ballhawks/gambles quite a bit to create deflections and steals.

    Stuckey can also run the point a bit while Thornton really cannot. Because of this, Stuckey more often draws mismatches and bullies small guards. Thornton can bully a small guard, too, but rarely gets that type of matchup.

    Shot selection and passing definitely favor Stuckey right now. And though I think Stuckey is a good shooter, I definitely prefer Thornton and his quick release.
     
    Thornton is also a killer in the clutch, consistently. If the game is close late, you can expect at least one if not a couple ballsy-ass baskets. Not to say Stuckey doesn’t have his moments either, but given a late-game situation I’ll ride with the "Bayou Bomber."
     
    Also interesting:
    Stuckey – middle 1st round pick.
    Thornton – middle 2nd round pick. 
     
    I think arguments can definitely be made for either, but to me they’re on the same plane now and will continue to be different but about equal values in a few years time.
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  • #649910
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    Honestly, I think a better comp might be to tyreke… granted stuckey does not have as great a handle but both are oversized point guards who cant shoot well from the outside and get a lot of shots at the line… I think if I was detroit I would keep stuckey and If I was sac I would not want to pair stuckey with tyreke, so I would keep thornton. If thornton gets better at setting his teammates up and running the point I would want him in 5 years. Likewise if Stuckey got better at shooting from outside, I would take him… I think stuckey is closer to achieving that goal than Thornton, so I would choose Stuckey.    

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  • #649913
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    PulseGlazer
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    I’m actually a Stuckey fan and think if Detroit gets the right pick they can be among the better East teams within 3 years.  Stuckey, Knight and Monroe with an athletic 4/5 is one hell of a combination.

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  • #649930
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    sheltwon3
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    Thornton is more athletic and the more dangerous scorer but Stuckney is well rounded and can play some point.  It really depend on team need.  Thornton fits what Sac needs at this moment.  Also Ben Gordon took Stuckney place and had a career day so I think some of the success that Stuckney is having may have to do with Monroe and Knight.

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