[Lotto StudParticipant]

Fri Jun 24 06:55pm EDT

Wolves’ second-round pick lied about age, should have been ineligible

By Eric Freeman

 

 

 

 

The second round of Thursday night’s NBA draft was full of obscure players from foreign leagues, but no one selected has as unknown a profile as Tanguy Ngombo. A 6-6 forward from the Qatar League, Ngombo was virtually unknown by even the most committed draftniks until Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress.com tweeted about his potential selection by the Minnesota Timberwolves in the second round.

Sure enough, Givony was right — Minnesota took Ngombo on Thursday night with the 58th overall pick. ESPN appeared to have ripped his highlight video straight from YouTube and his profile photo from Google Images, while analyst Fran Fraschilla compared him to Sidd Finch, a baseball phenom George Plimpton made up for a now-notorious April Fool’s Day hoax in a 1985 issue of Sports Illustrated.

It turns out that Fraschilla was at least partially right: Ngombo exists, but his story doesn’t check out. When the Wolves selected him Thursday night, they thought they were getting a 21-year-old golden nugget hidden from all other times. Instead, they found pyrite, because Ngombo is really 26 years old. Givony tweeted the truth on Friday afternoon:

Uh-oh, looks like our guy T’Wolves draft pick Tanguy Ngombo has been busted for lying about his age: http://bit.ly/kfxzqp (hat-tip @sJacas )

Here is a direct link to the FIBA website archive with Tanguy Ngombo ‘s profile and date of birth: http://bit.ly/lxStcJ

It looks like even Qatar is lising Tanguy Ngombo as being born in 1984: http://bit.ly/m5NXPI – I don’t think there’s any way around this now

NBA rules dictate that European players become automatically eligible for the league at 22 years old, at which point they become free agents unless a team already holds their rights through the draft. Since Ngombo had never been selected and his real age of 26 appears to have been a matter of public record, the selection should have never been allowed to happen and may be voided after the fact.

If the Wolves have a case to keep Ngombo’s rights, it’s that his NBA.com draft profile lists his year of birth as 1989. (The profile also gets his name wrong, but, in fairness, "Targuy" has been a common spelling since he entered the draftosphere on Monday.) The FIBA and Qatar links above look to be more official listings, so it looks as if the Wolves (and the NBA, to be sure) appear not to have done their due diligence. If they want Ngombo, they may have to sign him to a contract. Of course, it’s also not entirely clear why any franchise would want a 26-year-old forward who plays in a low-level league in the Middle East. The only reason Minnesota should want to hold on to the pick is to avoid embarrassment. There’s no reason that general manager David Kahn couldn’t have done a rudimentary web search about Ngombo, and he deserves mockery for failing to carry out some basic research.

It’s unclear if a case like this one has ever occurred in the NBA, but there is something of a precedent in the WNBA, as Kevin Pelton of Basketball Prospectus told me on Friday afternoon. In 2007, the Sacramento Monarchs took Charel Allen with the 36th pick even though she was set to return to Notre Dame for a fifth year and had not declared for the draft. Under league rules, she was declared ineligible, although the Monarchs did make her the Miss Irrelevant in 2008 when they chose her with the 43rd and final pick of the draft.

If that example serves as precedent, then the Wolves probably aren’t going to end up with Ngombo. Given his advanced age and lack of reputation, they may be just fine with that. However, this mess will remain as a black mark on the resume of Kahn. Up until now, his most ridiculous accomplishment as an NBA GM was taking two point guards with back-to-back lottery picks in 2008. Failing to look into the full history of Tanguy Ngombo may be impossible to top.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

I bet you all thought this was a Bismack thread but NOPE! Kahn has outsmarted himself again thinking he did his research, well he was wrong.

That’s what the f*ck he gets for going the international route when you have proven American players on the board still.

Kudos for going with the unknown! Stuck like Chuck now! No such thing as draft re-do’s

[Lotto StudParticipant]

I bet you all thought this was a Bismack thread but NOPE! Kahn has outsmarted himself again thinking he did his research, well he was wrong.

That’s what the f*ck he gets for going the international route when you have proven American players on the board still.

Kudos for going with the unknown! Stuck like Chuck now! No such thing as draft re-do’s

[Scottoant93Participant]

^^^ Nah i think everyone knew already, I saw it this morning, and someone also beat you to it on here

[Scottoant93Participant]

^^^ Nah i think everyone knew already, I saw it this morning, and someone also beat you to it on here

[vcelts123Participant]

Fail

[vcelts123Participant]

Fail

[Michael.S.Participant]

Bismack looks young to be honest.

[Michael.S.Participant]

Bismack looks young to be honest.

[Scottoant93Participant]

Also he was a 2nd round pick, so they can just cut him and not pay him a dime if he comes over, or he just comes over so it really doesnt matter

[Scottoant93Participant]

Also he was a 2nd round pick, so they can just cut him and not pay him a dime if he comes over, or he just comes over so it really doesnt matter

[Lotto StudParticipant]

Wasted pick! Kahn could have flipped that 3/4 times for future picks

[Lotto StudParticipant]

Wasted pick! Kahn could have flipped that 3/4 times for future picks

[Scottoant93Participant]

^^^ Twolves needs veterans not more picks, him stockpiling picks is only going to get them further from their goals, they have enough young talent what they need is veterans to mentor them and need to grow togather not worry about being replaced every single year

[Scottoant93Participant]

^^^ Twolves needs veterans not more picks, him stockpiling picks is only going to get them further from their goals, they have enough young talent what they need is veterans to mentor them and need to grow togather not worry about being replaced every single year

[WizardofOzParticipant]

[WizardofOzParticipant]

[bigdaddybluesmanParticipant]

You do not waste picks, even second rounders, they are assets to be used in trades or getting gems for your bench, best case a starter. Kahn has proved again he is incompetent. He’s a clown, he has no clue how to run an organization, I think many posters here could do a better job.

[bigdaddybluesmanParticipant]

You do not waste picks, even second rounders, they are assets to be used in trades or getting gems for your bench, best case a starter. Kahn has proved again he is incompetent. He’s a clown, he has no clue how to run an organization, I think many posters here could do a better job.

[topotamolderParticipant]

This is nothing but twolves fault, they can’t even use google and do some research about the player?

 

It clearly says he was born in 1984 at the fiba’s website

[topotamolderParticipant]

This is nothing but twolves fault, they can’t even use google and do some research about the player?

 

It clearly says he was born in 1984 at the fiba’s website

[Scottoant93Participant]

^^^^^ LMAO!

 

[Scottoant93Participant]

^^^^^ LMAO!

 

[river09Participant]

 lol i think all of us on here probably think we can draft better than he can…. 

[river09Participant]

 lol i think all of us on here probably think we can draft better than he can…. 

[frogmanParticipant]

hahaha thats actually really funny, I always try to feel sorry for Kahn because he keeps getting blasted from every angle.  But he keeps finding new ways to make me laugh.  Even though I don’t really think anyone he could have chosen would have done a lick in the NBA.  Now i kinda hope Isaiah Thomas, Adam Hanga or whoever the hell Ater Majok is turn into the next Manu so we can laugh at this down the line too…

[frogmanParticipant]

hahaha thats actually really funny, I always try to feel sorry for Kahn because he keeps getting blasted from every angle.  But he keeps finding new ways to make me laugh.  Even though I don’t really think anyone he could have chosen would have done a lick in the NBA.  Now i kinda hope Isaiah Thomas, Adam Hanga or whoever the hell Ater Majok is turn into the next Manu so we can laugh at this down the line too…

[raybeasParticipant]

the draft pick lied about his age? Just because kahn is a moron doesnt mean Gumbo lied about his age.

[raybeasParticipant]

the draft pick lied about his age? Just because kahn is a moron doesnt mean Gumbo lied about his age.

[TheLastWordParticipant]

Just looking at the guy, hairline and everything, any half wit could tell he’s older than 21.

 

[TheLastWordParticipant]

Just looking at the guy, hairline and everything, any half wit could tell he’s older than 21.

 

[ChrischiParticipant]

A classic Kahn.

Btw: This guy is simply hilarious Fake David Kahn Twitter

Quote: "C’mon, I knew Tanguy is 27. I drafted him because I heard we needed a veteran"

[ChrischiParticipant]

A classic Kahn.

Btw: This guy is simply hilarious Fake David Kahn Twitter

Quote: "C’mon, I knew Tanguy is 27. I drafted him because I heard we needed a veteran"

[Prince of BballParticipant]

I will say, I don’t blame the guy that got drafted. I put this totally on the t-wolves for not doing their due diligents on the kid. Way to go Kahn, you manage to become a sideshow for yet another draft. Take a bow!

[Prince of BballParticipant]

I will say, I don’t blame the guy that got drafted. I put this totally on the t-wolves for not doing their due diligents on the kid. Way to go Kahn, you manage to become a sideshow for yet another draft. Take a bow!

[aamir543Participant]

Of all people in the world, it had to be David Kahn.

[aamir543Participant]

Of all people in the world, it had to be David Kahn.

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