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- Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 1:09pm #52609
LitteringAnd…ParticipantInterested to see what people think of him. He’s pretty buried behind DeRozan and Gay but when he has got a few minutes I’ve thought he’s looked good. He can shoot the ball at a good clip (40% + from 3pt in college) and has unreal hops.
If he gets his chance in the next few years what do you think his ceiling is?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 1:36pm #848931
festar35ParticipantI said it when he came into the league, he reminds me of J-Rich and I honestly belief that is his ceiling as well. Could be a 20ppg guy on a bad team or a great 2nd scoring option on a play-off team averaging about16-17ppg 5-6rpg with numerous highlight real plays.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 1:36pm #849041
festar35ParticipantI said it when he came into the league, he reminds me of J-Rich and I honestly belief that is his ceiling as well. Could be a 20ppg guy on a bad team or a great 2nd scoring option on a play-off team averaging about16-17ppg 5-6rpg with numerous highlight real plays.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 1:40pm #848935
yahn_pourneuxParticipantHopefully he gets traded to a situtation where he gets some decent minutes and can crack the starting rotation. I think he’d fit will on the Bucks and gel with their core group, either that or Detroit.
0- Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 1:46pm #848939
festar35ParticipantFor Terrence Ross’ sake I hope he goes to neither of those teams. I wouldn’t mind seeing him in Boston or Memphis (they could do with a scorer of his caliber)
Personally I would like to see him grow in Toronto along with Jonas. I think Gay and Derozan have a limited lifespan in Toronto and Ross will get his chance soon.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 1:46pm #849049
festar35ParticipantFor Terrence Ross’ sake I hope he goes to neither of those teams. I wouldn’t mind seeing him in Boston or Memphis (they could do with a scorer of his caliber)
Personally I would like to see him grow in Toronto along with Jonas. I think Gay and Derozan have a limited lifespan in Toronto and Ross will get his chance soon.
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- Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 1:40pm #849045
yahn_pourneuxParticipantHopefully he gets traded to a situtation where he gets some decent minutes and can crack the starting rotation. I think he’d fit will on the Bucks and gel with their core group, either that or Detroit.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 1:44pm #848937
PlatypusParticipantHonestly he needs to leave that team
My Ideas:
Dragic and Goodwin for Ross and Lowry
Raptors: get a point guard who fits with the Demar and Gay better
Dragic – Derozan – Gay – Johnson – Jonas
Augustin – Goodwin – Fields – Hansbrough – Gray
Suns: Get a wing player who can run with Bledsoe
Bledsoe – Ross – Green – Morris – Plumlee
Smith – Goodwin – Tucker – Morris – Len / Okafor
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Ross and Johnson For Derrick Williams and Brewer
Minny: has its wings for the future in Ross and Muhammed
Rubio – Martin – Ross – Love – Pek
Barea – Shved – Budinger/Muhammed – Johnson – Dieng
Raptors: Gets its Powerforward of the future
Lowry – Derozan – Gay – Williams – Jonas
Augustin – Fields – Brewer – Hansbrough – Gray
0- Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 2:22pm #848943
B-ball fanParticipantTo be quite frank, neither of those ideas work. Dragic is a better player than Lowry by a significant margin and Ross is a project like Goodwin. Ross is better right now than Goodwin, but Goodwin has a lot of upside.
And Amir Johnson is a better player than Derrick Williams right now and the Raptors probably don’t value adding Brewer more than keeping Ross. I don’t know why the Raptors would do that trade, where the best veteran and the best young player in the trade are both leaving Toronto.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 2:22pm #849053
B-ball fanParticipantTo be quite frank, neither of those ideas work. Dragic is a better player than Lowry by a significant margin and Ross is a project like Goodwin. Ross is better right now than Goodwin, but Goodwin has a lot of upside.
And Amir Johnson is a better player than Derrick Williams right now and the Raptors probably don’t value adding Brewer more than keeping Ross. I don’t know why the Raptors would do that trade, where the best veteran and the best young player in the trade are both leaving Toronto.
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- Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 1:44pm #849047
PlatypusParticipantHonestly he needs to leave that team
My Ideas:
Dragic and Goodwin for Ross and Lowry
Raptors: get a point guard who fits with the Demar and Gay better
Dragic – Derozan – Gay – Johnson – Jonas
Augustin – Goodwin – Fields – Hansbrough – Gray
Suns: Get a wing player who can run with Bledsoe
Bledsoe – Ross – Green – Morris – Plumlee
Smith – Goodwin – Tucker – Morris – Len / Okafor
Or
Ross and Johnson For Derrick Williams and Brewer
Minny: has its wings for the future in Ross and Muhammed
Rubio – Martin – Ross – Love – Pek
Barea – Shved – Budinger/Muhammed – Johnson – Dieng
Raptors: Gets its Powerforward of the future
Lowry – Derozan – Gay – Williams – Jonas
Augustin – Fields – Brewer – Hansbrough – Gray
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 2:09pm #848941
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantRoss was really good when given minutes last season. This is what I found out last year:
While playing 20-29 minutes a game (25 games), he averaged 11 PPG and 3.5 RPG while shooting 46% FG, 39% 3PT, and 79% FT. Well above his season averages. Only problem is, where is he going to find 20-29 minutes in a line-up featuring DeRozan, Gay, Fields, and Anderson? All of whom averaged more minutes per game than Ross.
0- Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 3:15pm #848951
festar35ParticipantAnderson is in Brooklyn now, but I get your point.
0- Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 4:35pm #848983
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantYeah, I wrote that last season though. Ross should be a very good player in the L. Anybody think DeMar should play the 3?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 4:35pm #849092
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantYeah, I wrote that last season though. Ross should be a very good player in the L. Anybody think DeMar should play the 3?
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- Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 3:15pm #849060
festar35ParticipantAnderson is in Brooklyn now, but I get your point.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 3:22pm #848957
jmarg25ParticipantWell Anderson is gone now, thats a start.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 3:22pm #849066
jmarg25ParticipantWell Anderson is gone now, thats a start.
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- Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 2:09pm #849051
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantRoss was really good when given minutes last season. This is what I found out last year:
While playing 20-29 minutes a game (25 games), he averaged 11 PPG and 3.5 RPG while shooting 46% FG, 39% 3PT, and 79% FT. Well above his season averages. Only problem is, where is he going to find 20-29 minutes in a line-up featuring DeRozan, Gay, Fields, and Anderson? All of whom averaged more minutes per game than Ross.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 3:28pm #848959
theTKOshowParticipantI think the J-rich comparison is a great one but from watching most raps game he’s got a long ways to go. VERY inconsistent, it may be that hes having trouble with not being guaranteed a good amount of minutes since entering the NBA (probably first time ever for him) but its very evident. There are still too many times he’s in the game that you dont even realize until he makes a mistake. Very nice looking shooting stroke but surprisingly misses pretty badly when he does and for all that athleticism, doesnt use it to attack on the rim enough or play good d. If you see the highlights, its mostly fast breaks and the occasional put back.
At this point, as a raps fan I want to either see him, demar or gay traded because they all need the minutes to be properly judged and we could receive decent value in return. Even though demar seems like hes been around for a while, hes only 1.5 years older than ross.
Not sure its the inconsistent minutes, a lack of confidence or some comination of that but he needs those 30 mins/gm to show what he can do.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 3:28pm #849068
theTKOshowParticipantI think the J-rich comparison is a great one but from watching most raps game he’s got a long ways to go. VERY inconsistent, it may be that hes having trouble with not being guaranteed a good amount of minutes since entering the NBA (probably first time ever for him) but its very evident. There are still too many times he’s in the game that you dont even realize until he makes a mistake. Very nice looking shooting stroke but surprisingly misses pretty badly when he does and for all that athleticism, doesnt use it to attack on the rim enough or play good d. If you see the highlights, its mostly fast breaks and the occasional put back.
At this point, as a raps fan I want to either see him, demar or gay traded because they all need the minutes to be properly judged and we could receive decent value in return. Even though demar seems like hes been around for a while, hes only 1.5 years older than ross.
Not sure its the inconsistent minutes, a lack of confidence or some comination of that but he needs those 30 mins/gm to show what he can do.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 4:28pm #848979
Champzilla21ParticipantI love to watch Ross play on the offensive end but on the defensive side of the ball there are times he is just brutal to watch. If he could step it up on that side of the ball hed force them to keep him on the court.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 4:28pm #849088
Champzilla21ParticipantI love to watch Ross play on the offensive end but on the defensive side of the ball there are times he is just brutal to watch. If he could step it up on that side of the ball hed force them to keep him on the court.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 5:01pm #848991
BogDon_KryptParticipantI think he’d be a great fit on the Celtics. Can you imagine Rondo ally-ooping to Ross? It’d be the next Monta Ellis Vince Carter Combo
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/11/2013 - 5:01pm #849100
BogDon_KryptParticipantI think he’d be a great fit on the Celtics. Can you imagine Rondo ally-ooping to Ross? It’d be the next Monta Ellis Vince Carter Combo
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/12/2013 - 4:54am #849194
Brew Meister SmithParticipantThere is a reason his playing time has been limited and it has nothing to do with Derozan and Gay being there. As one or two of you have hinted at, his play has been inconsistant, and in some cases, downright awefull.
Offensively, no question – his game will come.
Defensively – he has shown in a few cases (including last night vs Harden) that he should have the ability. Just needs to follow through and play like like every day. He has had some piss poor nights on the defensive end.
In the end, Casey is a defense first coach that is more likely to cut minutes for poor D than poor O. It is up for debate whether you play Ross anyway to get the developement time in. I prefer making him earn his minutes, and I really think he will turn the corner soon.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/12/2013 - 4:54am #849085
Brew Meister SmithParticipantThere is a reason his playing time has been limited and it has nothing to do with Derozan and Gay being there. As one or two of you have hinted at, his play has been inconsistant, and in some cases, downright awefull.
Offensively, no question – his game will come.
Defensively – he has shown in a few cases (including last night vs Harden) that he should have the ability. Just needs to follow through and play like like every day. He has had some piss poor nights on the defensive end.
In the end, Casey is a defense first coach that is more likely to cut minutes for poor D than poor O. It is up for debate whether you play Ross anyway to get the developement time in. I prefer making him earn his minutes, and I really think he will turn the corner soon.
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