[Wavy BagelsParticipant]

Same concept as the PG Edition: Find counterparts for today’s Shooting Guards from the 80’s-90’s. If you feel the list is long, pick five players:

Dwyane Wade –

Kobe Bryant –

Eric Gordon –

Monta Ellis –

Paul George –

Tyreke Evans (Personally, I consider him a SG with PG mentality)

JR Smith –

Arron Afflalo –

OJ Mayo –

Jason Terry –

Brandon Roy –

Vince Carter –

Jason Richardson –

Wesley Matthews –

Ray Allen –

Rodney Stuckey –

Marcus Thorton –

Manu Ginobili –

Kevin Martin –

Deshawn Stevenson –

Thabo Sefolosha –

Gary Neal –

John Salmons –

Jordon Crawford –

Nick Young –

Mike Miller –

Anthony Morrow –

CJ Miles-

JJ Reddick –

Landry Fields –

Tony Allen –

Reggie Williams-

Rip Hamilton –

[Wavy BagelsParticipant]

Evan Turner –

Demar Derozan –

[JaeEvolutionParticipant]

Kobe Bryant – Michael Jordan

Ray Allen – Reggie Miller

Eric Gordon – John Starks

Tony Allen – Doug Christie

JJ Reddick – John Paxson

 

[festar35Participant]

Problem is the NBA is a different game than it was in the 80-90s. If you wanna get technical i could say things like:

Ellis = Iverson
George = McGrady
Morrow = Allen

As those guys were drafted in the 90s but thats not cool.

Gordon = Mitchmond
Martin = Miller

Guys like Carter, Allen, Bryant, Richardson shouldn’t be on there as they technically came from the 90s and they changed the game to what it is now.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Kobe Bryant – Michael Jordan. Tenacity, work ethic, will, killer instinct, complete game… Kobe is cut from the same cloth. Kobe has a better long range game though, and he’s better going to his left.

Dwyane Wade – Michael Jordan. He compares to Jordan, but in a different way than Kobe. Wade doesn’t have the complete game, but his style of play is probably more similar to Jordan’s than Kobe’s. Wade lives in the mid-range just like Jordan did and attacks the basket in a similar way.

Eric Gordon – Mitch Richmond. Just like Richmond, Gordon is an explosive scorer with an explosive first step, great strength and athleticism. A long range shooter, with power driving ability.

Ray Allen – Reggie Miller. Allen’s a better ball handler though.

JJ Smith – JR Rider. Smith doesn’t have the body Rider did, but is an explosive nuckle head who can go off for 30 at anytime.

Gary Neal – Craig Hodges. Both great three-point shooting specialists.

Wesley Matthews – Joe Dumars. Matthews is bigger, but I think he has a similar game.

Monta Ellis – Allen Iverson. This is the closest comparison I could think of. He’s clearly not the winner Iverson was though.

JJ Reddick – Jeff Hornacek. This actually may be a disrespect to Hornacek.

Kevin Martin – Allan Houston. Martin is probably a little more athletic and quick in the open court, but both players very good shooters, automatic from the line and can put the ball on the floor after that pumpfake and either pull up or take it to the rim.

Rip Hamilton – Reggie Miller. Except, he doesn’t shoot as many three-pointers. Moves without the ball like Miller.

Manu Ginobli – Drazen Petrovic. IF you watch Manu, you’ll see he has a lot of Petrovic in his game. Petrovic was doing that step through eurostep long before Manu.

Arron Afflalo – John Starks. Afflalo doesn’t play with the same arrogance lol, but he plays with similar defensive intensity. Both players are decent offensively, while being able to shoot the ball. Afflalo is a few inches taller though.

 

 

[GrandmamaParticipant]

I really like the Eric Gordon-Mitch Richmond comparison Indi.  Aside from the MJ-Kobe comparison which is obvious, the Gordon-Richmond comparison is the best one I’ve seen in this thread.

[festar35Participant]

If you read my post you will see i had it up there as well, but i totally agree even the whole underrated thing they both have going on.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

@festar35

He  probably got confused because you typo’d Mitchmond by mistake lol.

But yea, it’s a great comparison. Gordon is a little shorter, but he’s built similar to Richmond. Both have those strong/thick frames, which gives them power during the drive… Plus combined with that explosive quick first step. People might not remember, but Richmond was a great athlete too. He’d throw it down on a seven footer in a heart beat. Both can light you up for a quiet 30 and don’t really have much to pump their chest/brag about afterwards. They just play. And just like Richmond, Gordon is an underrated defender.

Hopefully, Gordon can actually become a winner in his career though and not just a player who put up great stats on a bad team.

[JoeWolf1]

Dwyane Wade – Michael Jordan ( early career)

Kobe Bryant – Michael Jordan (late career)

Eric Gordon – Mitch Richmond

Monta Ellis – Sidney Moncreif

Paul George – after one year and limited minutes, it’s hard to say.

Tyreke Evans (Personally, I consider him a SG with PG mentality)

Arron Afflalo -Byron Scott

Jason Terry – Rex Chapman

Brandon Roy – Chris Mullin

Vince Carter – Cedric Ceballos

Jason Richardson – J.R. Rider

Wesley Matthews – Alvin Robertson

Ray Allen -Reggie Miller

Rodney Stuckey – Danny Ainge ( less range)

Manu Ginobili – Drazen Petrovic

Kevin Martin – Dennis Scott

Deshawn Stevenson – Keith Askins

Thabo Sefolosha – David Wingate

Gary Neal – Craig Hodges

John Salmons – Dale Ellis

Tony Allen – Doug Christie

Reggie Williams- Dell Curry

Rip Hamilton – Ron Harper (early career)

[Wavy BagelsParticipant]

I have a problem with your Monta Ellis/Sidney Moncrief comparison. Ellis was not  the lockdown defender Moncrief was. So how are you comparing them? By offensive skill/size/personality?

[JoeWolf1]

I was comparing them as far as size, speed and scoring ability and that they were both above average distributors.  Monta isn’t a lock down defender, but he’s great in the passing lanes accumulating a bunch of steals in the process.  I know it’s odd to compare Monta Ellis to a former DPOTY, but my comparison was mainly based on size and offensive game.

I also see now, that I forgot to add 

Mike Miller – Dan Majerle

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Fire Dan lol.

I miss that dude lol. I’ll never forget him trying to D MJ up during the Finals only to get abused. Had to love his fire and intensity though. A player who ALWAYS played with a chip on his shoulder and like he had something to prove. He played hungry.

I miss players like him and John Starks.

 

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

A Guard is a Guard to some coaches…

Here are my New Era/Old School Counterpart comparisons

Kobe/Jordan…everyone will agree, Kobe is a carbon copy of the Great MJ…

Wade/Drexler…Wade will get a fair share of MJ comparisons but Wade much like Clyde the Glide Drexler is and will be a slight tier below the Greatest of All Time level, thus my comparing him to another legendary Sg with similar abilities…

Gordon/Richmond…this was a great comparison, I was struggling to find a great counterpart from that Era and Mitch was the perfect one, when Mitch was on the Warriors he had great seasons and was at a near All Star Level much like Gordon is right now and can be for years to come, maybe the extended offseason will be huge to his health and help keep him on the floor for 82 plus, he and Griffin(If he stays in LA) could be great Duo to watch…

Ellis/Iverson…As a Philly Guy and Huge AI fan(I believe AI is far too underrated in the GOAT talk, he was a 5’10 scoring machine and winner only comparable to Kareem and MJ as far as pure scorers go, he was one player that desperatly needed a Championship or 2 to cement his legacy as a top 10 player ALL TIME) Now as far as the Monta/AI comparison goes, Monta has a lot of AI in his game, he just needs to be put in a situation where he is the Main Event(in Golden State there is a huge debate as to who is the face of the franchise) Monta also needs to show the same fire as AI for 48 minutes, AI was a warrior and could will his team to victory over any team, AI lacked a supporting cast and maybe this is what can seperate Monta from him, Ellis has the ability to land on a team with talented counterparts to his explosive talents, he just has to harness that Fire and learn from the mistakes of scoring guards before him, he is a fine passer and has played with other great scorers already in his career so maybe he can become the winner AI was minus the personal issues…

Tyreke Evans/Penny Hardaway…aside from the Memphis college ties, both of these 6’6 combo Guards display a lot of the same charactoristics, Both can score 20 plus, get 5 plus assist and snatch at least 5 rebounds a game, both can get hot from deep but arent looked at as three point shooters, both guys had a good big man early on in their NBA careers…Evans may not have the explosiveness Penny had, and Penny didn’t have the frame that Evans has now, Tyreek also needs to get a better outside shot, something I think Penny had over him at this point, Reke doesn’t have the comercial appeal of Penny Hardaway, at least at this point, it seems like the marketing of Players has died down some,we no longer see Lil Penny like Commercials, instead we get an occasional Lebron and Kobe puppet show…

[moximusParticipant]

 Evan Turner – Jalen Rose

Greg Monroe – Brad Daugherty

Nic Batum – Scottie Pippen

Gordon Hayward – Allan Houston

Demar Derozan – Latrell Sprewell 

Steph Curry – Mark Price

[Spurs2020Participant]

 Manu Ginobili – Latrell Sprewell

two guys whose focus has been going to the basket and non-stop intensity and motor..

they both are hard nosed defenders with great steal #’s 

Both developed into better outside shooters as their careers developed

both underweight (Spree at 195; Manu at 205)

both have great intangibles 

Mistakes come from being too agressive

Biggest difference: their level of professionalism

[cabbycabParticipant]

Wade and Gordon were tough because I can’t recall anyone 6’3” that were as explosive as these guys back in the day….

 

Kobe Bryant –  MJ

Monta Ellis –  taller AI

OJ Mayo – Ricky Pierce  

Jason Terry – Nate Mcmillan   

Brandon Roy –  Mitch Richmond

Vince Carter –  Clyde Drexler

Jason Richardson –  smaller Dominique      

Ray Allen – Bryon Scott 

Rodney Stuckey –  Vinnie Johnson

Manu Ginobili –  I like the Spree comparison from earlier. Both "ballers". 

Kevin Martin –  Steve Smith

Deshawn Stevenson – Darrell Griffith

Mike Miller –  Brent Barry, both very talented players who became spot up 3 point shooters

Anthony Morrow –  Dell Curry

JJ Reddick –  Shawn Respert, both lights out shooters, but not built for nba game

Reggie Williams-  Morris Peterson

Rip-  Reggie

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