A little over a month into the season, I think the most surprising thing about this "weak" draft class is the early season star power. There isn't a large group of players producing very well; however, MCW and Victor Oladipo's dueling triple doubles was an amazing feat to happen as two first year guys duked it out, and they look like future All-Stars if they keep developing.
Trey Burke has recovered he's been putting up a nice numbers and the Jazz have begun to win games since his return. It seems like a long time ago when people were jumping off his bandwagon like it was on fire after a poor shooting Summer League stint.
Cody Zeller is an omission very few expected, and although the season is early, he's struggled to get major minutes for a Bobcats team flirting with a 500 record.
Ben McLemore, KCP, Kelly Olynyk and others are off to solid starts despite lesser team roles. Nate Wolters filled in nicely during injury before being bumped back down the depth chart, and a guy I thought would be buried, but had the tools too succeed ( Mason Plumlee ) is getting way more burn as the Nets struggle with aging gracefully in a new scenario.
1. MCW - 36.7 mpg - 17.7 ppg 5.8 rpg 7.3 apg 3.1 spg
2. Victor Oladipo - 29.9 mpg - 13.9 ppg 4.4 rpg 3.8 apg 1.7 spg
3. Trey Burke - 27.4 mpg - 12.6 ppg 3.3 rpg 4.1 apg .8 spg
4. Ben McLemore - 22.9 mpg - 9.1 ppg 2.8 rpg 1 apg .8 spg
5. KCP - 22.2 mpg - 7.6 ppg 2.2 rpg 1 apg 1 spg
6. Kelly Olynyk - 22.6 ppg - 7.5 ppg 5.4 rpg 1.6 apg .5 spg
7. Nate Wolters - 26.5 mpg - 7.4 ppg 2.7 rpg 4.4 apg .7 spg
8. Tim Hardaway Jr. - 15.4 ppg - 7.3 ppg 1.1 rpg .7 apg .3 spg
9. Mason Plumlee - 17.7 mpg - 6.7 ppg 3.4 rpg .4 apg .6 bpg
10. Vitor Faverini - 16.2 mpg - 5.2 ppg 4.7 rpg .5 apg 1.1 bpg
Who are you surprised by, right about, or someone doing well outside the top 10 scorers?
I have caught quite a few Bucks games (yes me and 12 others) and have been impressed. Given the Bucks outlook for this season, I would play him more than they are.
Yeah, Bennett's start has been awful. I haven't caught, but one Cavs game, but I am not sure if there is a case of a #1 pick starting off as poorly in his first 15-20 games. Hell, Kwame Brown had already logged a double double by Dec 5th of his rookie year.
I guess, he's playing better now than he was in his first couple games, but he has a looong way to go. I pegged him as a 10 ppg contributer this season...I wonder if he'll hit 6 by the end of the year.
Wolters has been awesome this year! The offense seems to run so much better when he's on the court. His shot hasn't been falling early on, but he's been impressive in every other aspect of the game. Wish that Larry Drew would give him more minutes. Ridnour has been awful as our back up.
Skating on the edge of Mr. Wolf's thread, but agree with you fito91. Nate did dribble too much early on, but he corrected that pretty quickly and the offense runs much smoother now. No worries Ridnour will get hurt (like he always does) and Knight does not seem all that interested in playing too much so hopefully that means more run for Nate.
I can see Giannis Antetokounmpo ending up as a top 10 rookie scorer. Not a bold prediction, as the Bucks will probably be giving him a lot more minutes as the season goes on so he can pad his stats while the Bucks continue to tank. Maybe 11-13 ppg by seasons end.
Giannis max ceiling is 15ppg scorer,there's no way in hell that he will sniff close to double diggits scorings.Maybe half of that.I cant believe what did you say smh,boy is raw as sushi
Uhhhh.... calm your tits little man.
He may be raw but he's got a lot of tools that will get him 25-30 mins a night down the stretch of the season. And if Caron Butler gets hurt, then you can definitely expect those minutes then. He's getting 5.2 points per game in about 16 minutes a night so far so technically and statistically, he's on pace to average double digit scoring IF given the time. He probably has zero plays that are called for him when he's on the floor and gets his buckets on hustle and being in the right spot at the right time. And he's only 18 by the way. Lets see how the season plays out.
MCW looks like a superstar. The rest are meh
I have to say I'm a bit surprised by Zeller, I expected a decent season from him. Honestly I've never seen him play but all his stats are terrible, considering the numbers I'm surprised he's still getting almost 20 mpg (though pretty much everyone is having terrible shooting percentages for the Bobcats).
I like what KCP's doing, I've seen him a few times, he's been a bit streaky with his jumper, but he's one of the few Pistons players who doesn't make me feel like throwing my tv out of the window. He's constantly in motion without the ball (while J-Smoove and Jennings, well, not exactly the same thing), he tries to do something within a few seconds after he gets the ball instead of stopping it and wasting half shot clock (like someone else does...), and puts a good effort on D, I like the way he plays off screens. He still has to work a lot on his decision making, and he still makes a lot of mistakes but it's something you expect from a rookie. I think he has all the tools to develop into a very good player.
Plumlee has been very solid getting open looks on cuts and moving on the baseline, running the floor, he has a knack for getting position on offense close to the basket and he's an excellent finisher. He doesn't have any real post offense. I don't see much upside unless he develops a mid range jumper. I haven't seen him doing anything wrong at rebound, but I see now his tracking numbers are quite disappointing, so next time I see him play I'll focus on his positioning, box out etc, since rebounds are too important for his future in the league.
Wolters was doing a decent playmaking job while Knight was out, but he seemed like he was trying not to do too much. He's been at his best in fast break situations, while in half court settings he's been playing off the ball often and he's struggling a lot with his 3 point shooting. He surprised me a bit on defense, until now he hasn't been much of a minus defender, though he's been beaten off the dribble quite easily sometimes he has been able to hold his own. Unfortunately with Knight and Ridnour back he won't play much, but I think he belongs.
McLemore has been struggling a bit with efficiency, especially scoring close to the basket. Honestly I'm not that surprised, I thought many had unrealistic expectations and I'm obviously not shocked at all about the fact he's not creating offense at all off the the dribble. That's not his game yet. I'm not particularly impressed with his bb IQ. His 3 point shooting numbers are probably going to rise, though his shooting selection might improve. I expected a bit more on D, but Marcus Thornton isn't the greatest competitor on that side of the court.
It was a pretty DEEP class which I thought it was. No true superstars (what we thought) but MCW and Oladipo could be very, very good for a long time. MCW should probably be an all-star this year.
I think Nerlens Noel will be good when gets (100%) back.
Are there any second rounders that are doing well?
Nick Calathes is technically a rookie and he is a pretty decent backup point guard who can really pass but can't shoot at all.
I even saw that Tony Snell had a good game a few days ago.
It's been a deep draft class with two really good guys right now in MCW and Oladipo. Can't wait to see Nerlens Noel back. Hopefully Anthony Bennett picks it up, too.
There is absolutely no way in hell MCW should be an all star this year. Not even close.
MCW and Oladipo each had triple doubles in the same game the other night. Have two rookies ever done that before?
MCW has had some monster lines already. If he and Oladipo are the two "stars" from this class then that means it was pretty solid.
If I could redraft top 5, it'd go
3) Nerlens (still gotta give the guy a chance)
4) Steven Adams
I think that Giannis will not only be the best overall player from the bizarre 2013 class, but also the best scorer. Fact: 97% of League Pass subscribers change the channel when Antetokounmpo isn't on the floor for the Bucks.
that there are so many morons on this site.Are you &$#%#&@! retarded or something,if you saw him pplay you would realize what are you saying. There is no way in hell that he will average more than 6 ppg,he will not score over 20 this year,wtf is wrong with you people.. smh
MCW has done better than I expected. His fg is right around where i thought it would be. He came out and put up great numbers but I think realistically these current numbers might decline a little bit where as Dipo, McLemore and Burke's numbers will increase as the season goes on.
It will be a close race in the ROY race - Dipo, MCW and Burke should all be close. Mclemore still has an outside chance.
I think Archie Goodwin and Shroeder look like they will have a nba career.
Waiting to see how Porter fits in with the Wizards. They are loaded at SF. I honestly believe the Wizards could advance to the second round of the playoffs. I don't think they will break up the team chemistry and give Porter alot of minutes.
Bennett - before the season I said he could be the worst no1 pick since Bargnani. At this point he might even end up worse than Bargs !!!
Whatever happen to Alex Len?
Good point, he's missed 15 gAmes this year due to ' soreness' in his foot - which isn't a good thing. (Let's hope it doesn't become a constant thing and stick around for a few years) When he has been on he has really struggled with foul trouble. He's clearly not ready for the NBA yet.
I think Bennett is in a very similar situation to Derrick Williams. He is a tweener, that should be playing the 4, but due to a log jam at that position is playing way too much 3 and not getting his true opportunity.
I won't lie or be ashamed of the fact I was high on Bennett, but that is because he had a bruising low post game, and the Cavs offense where they have him playing is giving him literally no looks in the post.
Don't forget about Otto porter either, he may be returning soon ( maybe tomorrow) he has apparently been killing it at practice too.