me and my friend arguing who top 5 centers our?
my list is
1. marc Gasol
And who would you rather have not based on talent just overall things do stuff vucevic or cousins?
We asked this ? to 5 people so far and everyone had a different top 5.
Dwight is leading the league in rebounding despite dealing with a bad back and shoulder problems, why has he fallen off in everyone's mind?
well his team isnt winning right now. If he was the number 1 center they would at least be in playoffs. Only reason i put him so low
It's true Dwight is still rebounding well, but if you are actually watching the games, its pretty obvious he's fallen off' Don't forget, in Orlando, at his peak, this was a guy who carried a fairly mediocre supporting cast to a top 4 seed pretty much every year. He affected games in so many ways with his defense, and many thought he was the 2nd best player in the league. The center pull isn't exactly strong, but its hard to say he's still number one when he legitimately looks like a player whose breaking down to an extent. Maybe he'll heal, and be great again soon but it seems like he has a lot of issues, his defensive instincts and his overall athleticism just isn't the same.
Brook Lopez is having a really good year, and is the focal point of that team. He is just so poor defensively and such a mediocre rebounder that I can't say he's best.
Noah does a little of everything, but he isn't very polished offensively. He brings so much of an X-factor with his motor and intensity but he is also a bum slayer. Has GREAT games when they play sub-par front courts.
Duncan is near the end of his run, but probably is the most complete center in the league still to do this day.
Marc Gasol is having a great defensive year, and is really really skilled. He isn't putting up jaw dropping offensive numbers but he is consistent.
Chandler is excellent defensively, but still doesn't bring much of anything except dunks to the other side of the ball.
Cousins probably has the most skill off any center, he is just a total knucklehead and a player whose team has never even been mediocre. His potential is through the roof.
Bynum very well could be the best center when healthy, but facts are, the same could be said about Dwight. Bynum does have a more polished offensive game and the Lakers were much better with him than this 2013 version of Dwight Howard.
Honerable mentions. Tim Duncan and al Jefferson. They're on the pf side so i didn't put them
1. Howard (I hate him with a passion, but he is very good)
2. Tim Duncan
3. Brook Lopez
4. Al Jefferson
5. Tyson Chandler
heres my reasoning for why i put everyone where they are
Gasol ( Because he is the most complete center in the league. Plays great defense and has a very nice offense game also)
Noah ( I put him second because even though rose and deng were hurt his team was still winning plus he brings great defense and has a great passing game)
Chandler( Has improve the defense on last two teams instantly and has the knicks looking like a real championship threat with his defense plus leads the league in fg %)
Howard ( Is a athlete offense but this year he isn't as good and has been cancer to his team. So I don't know how you can put him higher)
Jefferson ( has the jazz in the playoff hunt despite not having a good sg or a pg. Plus has really improved his defense)
Love how everyone who was hating on Lopez last year is coming around on him as a top 5 center this year. My top 5 (not including Tim Duncan in case any one is wondering):
1. Dwight Howard - even with one of his worst seasons ever he's still putting up 16.3 PPG on 57.6 FG% with 11.8 RPG and 2.4 BPG
2. Marc Gasol - very good all around center, he scores, rebounds, passes and defends
3. Al Jefferson - always underrated but he's averaged at least 17 PPG and 9.5 RPG for the past 6 seasons and has been the best player on what looks like a playoff team
4. Brook Lopez -18.9 PPG, 7.3 RPG and 2.2 BPG in just under 30 minutes per game
5. Joakim Noah - a difference maker he's an excellent rebounder (11.2 RPG), passer (4.2 APG), defender (2.1 BPG and 1.3 SPG), and his energy and motor are contagious
I'd probably have Tyson Chandler at #6 and then things would get tricky for me.
Andrew Bynum needs to stay healthy and he'd be a lock for the top 5.
Kevin Garnett is still a very good all-around player and is very valuable defensively but he isn't a natural center and he's getting way up there in age.
Al Horford is very consistent and efficient, but doesn't take over games in the paint.
Greg Monroe and Demarcus Cousins still need to kick things up a notch and help their teams win more but are knocking at the door of All-Star status.
Nik Pekovic is starting to play at a pretty high level (16 PPG and 8.7 RPG) but still needs to polish his game if he wants to take the next step.
Omer Asik has proven to be an impact player on defense and on the boards but could use more scoring ability around the basket.
Andrew Bogut like Bynum needs to stay healthy in order to fulfill his promise.
Roy Hibbert has taken a step back from last season and doesn't seem quite good enough to ever break into the top 5.
Marcin Gortat is good but nothing special without Nash at point guard.
I don't know who's the best.... i'm only very puzzled today we have to say Marc or Tyson or Brook or even D12 are the best... Once we could see Shaq vs Zo, Ewing vs The Dream, the Admiral, and "second line centers" like Smits, Divac or even Seikaly.... today we must be happy with Horford & C....
If brook lopez was avg a 18-10 it would clearly be him ....
Another guy who gets hardly any pub is Al Jefferson 19-9
And we still looking A CENTER THAT IS BETTER
people give tyson chandler so much pub and and he cant even
MUSTA 10 points PLAYS STARTERS MINUTES FOR HOW LONG ?
IN A CPL YEARS ANDRE DRUMMOND WILL BE BEST CENTER IN
2 AL JEFFERSON
3 MARC GASOL
5 GREG MONROE
DWIGHT HOWARD MAKES LIST WHEN HE GET HIS ISH TOGETHER
Take Monroe off and put Duncan on ,,COULD MAKE A CASE FOR LARRY SAUNDERS ALSO
Lopez has really brought his rebounding back to respectable this year (better than Gasol, just he plays less minutes) and he is also blocking shots again (better rate than all the guys getting mentioned in top five, even better than Howard, just again Lopez plays less than 30 minutes per game).
Asik I think has to be top five on defense and that has to count for a lot since a good defensive center can basically make your defense. The Rockets say that when Asik sits on the bench, their defense sits with him. His offense is limited, but you just work around that with your play calling. It really isn't that hard.
Drummond on a per minute basis blows everyone out of the water. His per 36 stats are 13.3 points (on 60% shooting, after Chandler, that would be second among the elite centers), 13.7 rebounds (after Asik, I believe that would be second in league), 3.1 blocks (after Sanders, I believe that would be second in league), and 1.7 steals (that would be best among the centers we are talking about). Only weakness is FT shooting (major problem at 37% because Hack-A-Shack actually works against that percentage), passing (but he isn't asked to) and he gets no minutes so he doesn't really help the team win while sitting on the bench.
I like Asik, dude on wolves is solid also PEKO gonna be a steal for somebody he a free agent next year He gonna drop right in someone lap like Asik went tmfrom bulls to rockets... I would love for NETS TO SNATCH HIM
Everybody was hating on Lopez before this season. Very few on this site, gave him any chance of coming back and being a top 10 center this season.
Not saying I'd put him in the top 5, but I'm curious where you guys would rank Larry Sanders. He's making a case for himself as Defensive Player of the Year and still has a lot of room for improvement.