[seecocoaballParticipant]

1.) Chris Paul: Lead Guard by every sense. Passer. Stealer. Vocal leader.

2.) Deron Williams: explosive big guard with sneaky athleticism. Can put runs together that are brutal. Very efficient at getting the ball where it’s suppose to be.

3.) Derrick Rose: “look out, Derrick Rose with the slam.” That explains why he’s three. Rose improvisation and quick strength allows him to be unguarded. Once he gets the jumper, watch out!

4.) Steve Nash: setting a trend for athletically-challenged Point Guards should be awarded to Nash. Gracious and fluidity in the open court defines Nash. Has top-notch feel for creating shots, while probing the lane.

5.) Rajon Rondo: stat-stuffer, that’s Rondo, he does so much but gets little recognition because of the big three. Steals. Rebounds. Assists. He gets it done with solidarity.

[R-Dot-13Participant]

Derrick Rose is not the 3rd best PG in the league .

[mwardiaParticipant]

wow wow. rondo at 3????
4 me it goes 1. paul, 2. d-will 3. nash, 4. billups 5. rose or paker

rondo is not better then rose or tony parker

[mwardiaParticipant]

westbrook is def. not better than rose, who won rookie of the yr last yr?

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Rose is not a top five point guard just yet. Still needs to work on his playmaking ability and defense.

[the I in winParticipant]

jason kidd and russell westbrook and better than derrick rose. if your logic for Derrick Rose is how well he dunk then james white is the best to ever play the game.

Tyreke Evans can do anything Derrick Rose can do.

[gregoden08Participant]

Is not better than Rose…Good joke though.

[R-Dot-13Participant]

Westbrook is better than Rose right now.

Top 5 are .

Paul
D-Will
Nash
ParkerRondo

Those 2 are interchangable.

[mwardiaParticipant]

how is westbrook better than rose. theres no way, Rose Rookie of the year ring a bell to anyone. if westbrook was in roses’ place last yr, the bulls woodnt make the playoffs

[the I in winParticipant]

he got rookie of the year because he took a lot more shots. westbrook is a better finisher and passer, rose is a better shooter by a little but he still can’t shoot, westbrook one of the best perimeter defenders in the league while rose is ok on defence.

[mwardiaParticipant]

thts true, he did shoot more than RW, but do u think the bulls woodve got in2 the playoffs with westbrook instead of rose?

[mwardiaParticipant]

rose is the most atheltic PG in the nba next to westbrook, but i woodnt rank him 3rd just yet

[seecocoaballParticipant]

Rose has uncanny improvisation. Not only that, Rose can put pressure on opposing big-men. When you get a Point Guard that keeps opponents on their heels, then you got something special. When I look at Rose play, one thing stands out, his purposeless ability to make his teammates look bad at shooting the basketball because they’re always too open, to a fault. Trust me, Rose would be too efficient with Nowitzki in the same lineup. Right now, unfortunately, Bulls have no credited shooters.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

1. CP3 – He has separated himself from D-Will in my opinion. He’s not just an elite point guard. He’s the 4th best player in the league.

2. D-Will – An elite point guard, but doesn’t get the attention because he plays in Utah.

3. Nash – His demise was greatly exaggerated. He’s an MVP candidate.

4. Mr. Big Shot – He’s been out with an injury, so it’s been “out of sight, out of mind”, but he’s still a top five point guard.

5. Parker – Had some injuries and has gotten off to a slow start this season, but I think it’d be disrespectful to move him outside the top five. He, not Tim Duncan, has been carrying the Spurs the last couple of seasons.

[quincey hodges]

no evans wouldnt be up there because hes a sg.. rondo still doesnt get the credit he deserves only because his scoring isnt as high which makes no sense when yure talking about a pg. makes more sense when youre talking about a sg. rondo scores when he has too. is a much better passer,defender,rebounder and better at getting steals. so because rose scores mor epoints hes a better pg?

[seecocoaballParticipant]

Westbrook got took my Rose every play on March 18 when the Bulls played OKC. Go check the highlights.

[mwardiaParticipant]

i gtta agree with tezo, we agree on shit lol, but rose and parker are interchangable

[seecocoaballParticipant]

Rondo is Point Guard by definition but Lead Guard should be the anointed name.

[the I in winParticipant]

westbrook is a better passer and defender than rose which is why he is better. Also how can you say the bulls wouldn’t have made the playoffs last year with westbrook? have you or anyone else seen westbrook as a go to guy besides in highschool? Anyways, in that one playoff series Rose had 2 great games then sucked for he rest of the series, Ben Gordon was what made that series great.

[gregoden08Participant]

Has no way of getting a high number of assist. Nobody on the Bulls can hit jumpers consistently. And what series were you watching? Ben Gordon had 1 great game and that was it…Rose was the main reason why they took that series to 7.

[R-Dot-13Participant]

Well ,
that was last year.

When i mean now, i mean this year.

Westbrook: 16 ppg, 7.3 apg, 5 rpg. 18-15 record in the West.
Rose: 18.4 ppg, 5.7 apg, 3.5 rpg. 14-17 record in the east.

Yes, Rose averages more points, but he’s also the #1 option on his team, when Westbrook isnt.
Both are athletic, both are improving as shooters, but I think westbrook is a better passer and rebounder than Rose.
Their scoring is pretty even.
Westbrook is also a way better defender.
He is a triple-double threat each night.

Westbrook is a borderline all star this year, and has definetly been playing better than Rose .

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Rondo isn’t a top five point guard yet in my opinion because he can’t shoot. Not at all. I could make a pass, but it’s his free-throws. I watched him miss three (one he took as a practice shot) free-throws vs the Clippers and the Celtics lose the game. I find it hard trusting a point guard during the clutch, when he can’t shoot free-throws.

[quincey hodges]

lol..march 18…last year. what about the other games they played each other( not that it matters because its last year) those games dont matter?..or what about other pg who have played better then rose in a head to head match up?..are they better then rose then?

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Stop being biased. Westbrook shoots LESS than .40% and averages more turnovers. He makes bad decisions. Why is it acceptable that he shoots less than .40% and is turnover proned?

[gregoden08Participant]

Rose is a better player. Could you imagine if Rose played with Durant? He’d probably average 9 apg easily…And like Tezo said, Westbrook shoots under 40% and turns the ball over quite a bit…Doesn’t sound like good decision making to me.

[mwardiaParticipant]

we all knw tht westbrook and rose are real good players.but rose has a better impact on the game thn westbrook. im not takin anythin away from westbrook, but when rose plays, idk… rose is a better scorer tho

[seecocoaballParticipant]

Rose don’t have Durant. End of story. lol.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

I’ll give Westbrook the edge in rebounding and defending, but that’s it right now. Westbrook plays with a player who averages almost 30 points. He’s going to have higher assists. He has a better team.

Rose does everything else better.

[mwardiaParticipant]

EXACTLY TEZO lol. i agree. the bulls are not a shootin team, so of course rose aint gnna get 7 apg yet.

[R-Dot-13Participant]

Westbrooks assists dont come on passes to durant where he just shoots,
Westbrook has an amazing ability to get into the paint, and then kick or dish off to a big man inside for a dunk.
Or pull up for a mid range jumper.

Westbrook has something like
18 points,13 assists and 9 rebounds last night,

Durant was getting locked down by Mbah a Moute.

Westbrook was the best player on the thunder in the 4th Q and OT last night.

THey play eachotehr tomorrow night, i plan to watch.

[mwardiaParticipant]

westbrook didnt tht good, he shot 6-16 from the field, and durant was easily the best player 4 the thunder. even with mbah moute on his back, he still shot 12-24 from the field, and made big shots, though they lost

[R-Dot-13Participant]

Durant was better in the first 3 quarters.

Westbrook was the best player on the Thunder in the 4th Quarter and OT .

[mwardiaParticipant]

ohhh well lol, well i mean the highlights on nba.com just showed durant and like no westbrook, do u have league pass r-dot

[R-Dot-13Participant]

yeah i do .

but i watched the game on raptors tv last night lol,
dont know why the raptors game wasnt on that channel.. lol

[JNixonParticipant]

1.) Chris Paul.
2.) Deron Williams
3.) Steve Nash
4.)Rajon Rondo
5.) Tony Parker

[mwardiaParticipant]

do u live in toronto r-dot

[R-Dot-13Participant]

i live about 40 minutes from toronto

[mwardiaParticipant]

yea cuz i vacation in toronto someitmes, and one time i watched a suns and grizzles game in toronto w,o. league pass in the hotel, just wonderin lol

[seecocoaballParticipant]

Rose went 12 for 14 against Westbrook last year.

[seecocoaballParticipant]

Oh, man! Rose play Westbrook tomorrow. Good luck with that match-up!

[mwardiaParticipant]

is it in chicago

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

1. Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Chauncey Billups
4.Steve Nash
5.Rajon Rondo

And Im Being Nice….I Actually Think Rondo Could Be Higher.

As For The Rose And Westbrook Discussion, It’s Kind Of Hard To Decide Who Is Better, Both Are Freak Athletes At The Point Position, Rose Is Just A Little Quicker And Alot Faster In The Open Floor, But Besides That They Are About Equal To Me

[seecocoaballParticipant]

Yup. I also recall Rose making Westbrook and Collison look silly during the Final Four. They’re trying to make Westbrook a Point Guard – which he isn’t by nature – and they’ll do the same to Avery Bradley. Westbrook is overrated.

[seecocoaballParticipant]

Billups should be eating noodles and sipping coffee. That guy is done with. I have much respect for him because unlike most Guards, Billups found his way into the league without much support.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

I guess people are ignoring the fact that Rondo can’t shoot. Not from mid-range… Not from 3P… Not even from the free-throw line. That alone should tell you that he benefits at an extreme level from playing with three hall of famers…

[quincey hodges]

rondo isnt the best of shooters thats for sure but does scoring more and shooting a better percentage make some one a better pg..should passing,defense,stealing factor in? and should the fact that the teams were basically evenlly matched in the playoffs yet rondo showed that when he needs to he can score?. and ray allen although good would not be a hall of famer with the game he’s had since hes been in boston.

[seecocoaballParticipant]

of course. Rondo is best alongside them. You take them away, Rondo will look like the rookie of 06.

[R-Dot-13Participant]

again , this is last year.

what i said was, westbrook is better, this year .

[seecocoaballParticipant]

Jeff Green on Poohdini: “… you realize how good he is until you play against him.”

[Michael.S.Participant]

1-Paul
2-Nash
3-Williams
4-Parker
5-Rose

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

I think Rondo is a great point guard based on his playmaking ability, defense and overall play. I have him right outside of the top five, at six.

He can get buckets when he has to… He’s great at breaking his man off the dribble and getting layups. I just think his inability to shoot, especially from the free-throw line is a terrible weakness for a point guard who has the ball a lot. If he didn’t play with the Big Three, he’d struggle significantly. I don’t think Rondo could carry a team or even deal with that kind of pressure. Tony Parker has literally carried the Spurs the last couple of seasons.

[seecocoaballParticipant]

Parker isn’t better than Rose from two components: athletically and passing. His teardrop is too ’06’ year. I’ve never seen Nash make defensive play but Suns system is great for him.

[JNixonParticipant]

You think he’s a top 6 PG, but he’d struggle significantly if he wasn’t with the Big 3? A top 6 PG would never struggle significantly.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Their passing is actually kind of similar. The only thing Rose has on Parker right now is athleticism. Parker is better for at least 2-3 more seasons.

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

Rondo Def Would Not Be The Same Rondo From His Rookie Year, Rondo Despite A Jumpshot Is Still Top 5 PG’s In The League, Just Because He Play’s With 3 HOF’s Means Nothing That Doesn’t Take Away From What Rondo Can Do.

He’s Been A Rebounding Machine Since His Days At Kentucky 17 Rebounds In A Game Against IOWA, He’s Always Been Known For His Ball Hawking Defense, He’s Always Been Quick, Fast, So I Don’t Get What People Mean By The HOF’s Statement.

[Michael.S.Participant]

Hey dave, why do you capitalize the first letter of every word?

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Him not being with the Big Three is only hypothetical because he is with them. Based on that and how he’s played, he’s the 6th best point guard to me.

IF he wasn’t with the Big Three though… I don’t think he’d be this effective. I think he’d be in the 10-15 range.

[quincey hodges]

so secco you just discount how rondo played with kg hurt or when they have had a couple of games where 2 out of the big three are hurt?…ive seen pg play with the celtic ,lakers,rockets and bulls title teams that didnt play as well as rondo but they had better over all talent around them. how come they did put up 9 ast a game?..or average a triple double in the playoffs?..man ya’ll are really disrespecting his ability because of who he has around him.

have ya’ll seen rondo when he wants to score he scores. how good do you think you have to be when everyone knows you cant shoot a three or mid range yet you still score just about everytime you put youre mind to it and the other team knows exactly where u want to go with the ball?

[quincey hodges]

and hes played great with or with out them. hesbetter then rose in my opinion. only thing rose does better is score and you have to take into acount that he does that because he doesnt have othe rplayers who do much scoring. i take in accoutn everything you want out of a pg on top of that last year playoff match up where the teams were evenlly matched except that rondo was clearly the best overall player ont he floor. whcih shows when he has to he can put up the points that rose can and still lead his team to victory which i also take into account. he wasnt just part of that team he lead them to victory

[R-Dot-13Participant]

I dont like calling them the “big three” because Rajon Rondo is not the 4th best player on that team .

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

You Just Do You Ima Do Me lol

Like Quincy Says Rondo Gets To The Lane Any Time He Wants With The Defense 50 Feet Away From Him Thats Absurd Man, There’s No Stopping Him

[quincey hodges]

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=967407

http://www.82games.com/0809/playoffs/playoffs.htm

rondo 13th best player int he playoffs. i always like this site because they break down every lil thing

[Michael.S.Participant]

oK maN I waS jusT curiouS.

[quincey hodges]

With Kevin Garnett out for the playoffs, Rondo stepped his play up but continues to miss the spotlight. Two games into the playoffs, Rondo boasts a higher PER than any other player on the Celtics or the Chicago Bulls, including Ben Gordon. Thus far in the playoffs, he has scored more consistently than any other player on the Celtics, averaging 24 points-per-game compared to Allen’s 17 and Pierce’s 20.5. On top of his playoff scoring, he leads his team in rebounds, assists and steals.

Sure, Ray Allen’s last second game winner and 28 point second half performance in Game 2 of the 2009 NBA playoffs were sensational, but who kept the Celtics in the running during Allen’s 2 point first half? It took Ray Allen a game and a half to play anything but horrible basketball, but he still remains the hero on the front page of ESPN for the Celtics. Rajon Rondo was again slighted on ESPN’s SportsCenter they exalted Allen’s game winner, but called Kendrick Perkins the unsung hero of the game. Where is the mention of Rondo’s outrageous triple-double (19 points, 16 assists, 12 rebounds and 5 steals)? Not to mention, Rondo opens up many shots for Allen as he penetrates and dishes.

Watch closely over the next few games as Rondo leads the Celtics and receives little credit for his efforts.

Sources: ESPN.com

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

All I Got To Say Is 16.9 PPG 9.7 Rebounds 9.8 Assist In The Play-Offs.

RAJON RONDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

[bdoody42Participant]

1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams { Afetr these 2 falls off a bit.}
3. Steve Nash
4. Tony Parker
5. Rajun Rondo

[quincey hodges]

as of right now id have to drop parker because this year he hasnt been playign liek a top 5 pg

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

Thats about right

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

Early career he struggled and they won title same goes for Rondo he is better than Rose and eats Parker for breakfast since he came into the league. C’s have owned the spurs who use to own them since adding Rondo

[the I in winParticipant]

The Celtcis own the Spurs because Timmy gets shut down and without him getting 20 10 and demanding double teams they can’t work.

it’s would be like not having to double shaq from 2000 lakers, shootets would never be open.

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