[Hatzi333Participant]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7vznrhl 

Also the Nuggets are apart of the trade, but the espn trade machine didn’t let me paste a link for the full 4 team tade.

 

Want some thoughts and opinions:

 

Bulls get: Dwight Howard, Dorell Wright, Louis Amundson, and 1.2 mil trade exception

Warriors get: Taj Gibson, Luol Deng, Cj Watson, and Nuggets 2012 2nd round pick, and future Magic 2nd round pick

Magic get: Joah-Kim Noah, Ekpe Udoh, 2012 Bobcats pick (courtsey of Bulls), the rights to Nikola Mirotic (young player on real madrid, who was voted 2011 uprising star, and will be in the NBA in 2 years, 6’10 shooter, comparison to KD, also courtesy of Bulls) 2012 Warriors and  2012 Bulls first round picks (very deep 2012 draft class) 11 million dollar trade exception from Nuggets (Carmelo trade) 

Nuggets Get: Hedo Turkoglu (amnesty his ass) Future Bulls 1st round pick

Warriors starting lineup, assuming they get Deandre Jordan or Nene

PG: Stephen Curry/ Cj Watson

SG: Monta Ellis/ Klay Thompson

SF: Luol Deng/ Klay Thompson

PF: David Lee/ Taj Gibson

C: Nene or DeAndre/ Andries Bierdins

Magic Starting lineup

PG Jameer Nelson/ Chris Duhon

SG Jason Richardson/ JJ Reddick

SF Ryan Anderson/ Q-Rich

PF Ekpe Udoh/ Glen Davis

C Joah-Kim Noah/ Glen Davis

Bulls Starting Lineup 

PG Derrick Rose/ Janero Pargo or sign vet PG like Arenas

SG Richard Hamilton/ Dorell Wright (6th man)/ Jimmy Butler

SF Ronnie Brewer (Starts because Thibs loves D n to guard LeBron)/ Dorell Wright/ Jimmy Butler

PF Carlos Boozer/ Louis Amundson/ Kurt Thomas

C Dwight Howard/ Omer Asik/ Kurt Thomas

The Magic get a whole lot of future assets, in a high future pick with the bobcats pick, and picks from warriors and bulls in 2012, and also a big trade exception. Get Joah-kim Noah, a top 5 center and will probably progress to become a top 3 center at least. And also get the rights to Nikola Miortic who has a ton of upside. And get Udoh former 6th overall pick and is still developing and has some good potential. Magic team doesnt look to good, so they’ll also prob get rid of J-Rich and Nelson and bomb the season and will end up with a high draft pick. Get all that for just Howard. Also they get rid of Turkoglu ridiculous contract. So they’ll have 4 2012 1st round picks, with just this trade. They’ll have a lottery 2012 pick, a early 20’s pick from the warriors, a late first round pick in the Bulls, and will wait to use the bobcats pick until Jabari Parker comes out, (rated number one JR high school player in the nation, and is considered to have the potential to be the in the class of, Kobe, Lebron, Durant, Wade, and Drose are in now.)

Nuggets just lose 11 million trade exception and 2nd round pick, and get a future 1st round pick from the bulls, for making the trade work and getting Tukoglu (who will be amnesty anyway)

Bulls get franchise Center and by far the best center in the league, in Dwight Howard. Also get offensive-minded and 3pt shooting Dorell Wright, and defensive/hustle big in Amundson. and a million dollar trade exception. D-Rose gets a great shooter in Wright and gets a little pressure off him by gettin Dwight. Though, they give up a lot, Deng, Mirotic, Noah, Gibson, Watson, 2 first round picks, and Bobcats pick.

Warriors get young and best Power Forward reserve in the league and one of the best defenders in the league  Taj Gibson, and could start on multiple teams which makes David Lee expendable, if they choose. Defensive stud, which the Warriors need and 18-20 ppg forward, in Deng. Which is an upgrade to Wright.  A fast-paced and scoring Pg and solid back-up in Cj Watson.  Also get 2012 second round pick from nuggets (Which is a deep class) and the Magic’s pick will probably be an early 2013 2nd round pick. Team is well balanced they have the offense and the defense to definatley make the playoffs and probably the 2nd round. Also the warriors could definatley pull a trade off for Paul if he is willing to sign an extension. So if they indeed get Paul, Imagine a line-up of Paul, Ellis, Deng, Lee, Nene. 

 

 

 

 

[Hatzi333Participant]

 I just want opinions and thoughts of it

 

[apb540Participant]

I like it. If Dwight isn’t going to resign then this isn’t a bad return at all for him. The only thing I’m not sure of is if the Nuggets would be able to amnesty Hedo. 

[BELLY333333Participant]

Simply put, the Lakers want to have Howard at full strength for the coming season. Starting on time is not a priority. If he can make it back before November, the team will celebrate.

[PROBALLWAParticipant]

Last season Mavericks head coach Rick Carlisle had to throw a radically new team together in a lock-out shortened training camp. He sees this year’s camp, which is lengthened due to a series of preseason games in Europe, as a potential advantage.vbarf23322323fa

[DWAGAAEEEAParticipant]

And hell, sometimes, when you have been “the man” your entire career, it is not a bad break every once in a while to let someone else handle the spotlight as you slip out the side door. It’s nice to know that, as the last sands drip through the hourglass of your career, the team you are leaving is in good hands. jfyjh5656

[DWAGAAEEEAParticipant]

Rajon Rondo is by no means a polished diamond. Within the past calendar year, he has thrown a ball, and his body, at referees. He is still prone to gambling on defense and quiet tantrums until we see that he is not. A pre-season’s worth of glowing Rondo scripture by no means makes the man infallible.
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[DWAGAAEEEAParticipant]

But it does mark another step along the way to a more complete, more mature player. Perhaps Rondo’s career is a bit like running up a big sand dune. Every stride brings progress, and then a little slide. The key, though, is to keep going, and realize that it is a lot of hard work and a bit of frustration to get to where you need to be.jdh4545

[DWAGAAEEEAParticipant]

But it does mark another step along the way to a more complete, more mature player. Perhaps Rondo’s career is a bit like running up a big sand dune. Every stride brings progress, and then a little slide. The key, though, is to keep going, and realize that it is a lot of hard work and a bit of frustration to get to where you need to be.78kjgkug

[DWAGAAEEEAParticipant]

Griffin went on to say that the existence of the rule is good in theory, but he doubts it will make a difference on the court: “It’s not going to win or lose games for anybody… But now you’re telling me if it’s Game 7 of the NBA Finals and a guy has a chance to make a play he’s going to be like, ‘Well, do I want this $10,000 or do I want a championship?’fgsfg34w

[DWAGAAEEEAParticipant]

“Right now, we have so much competition at each position. The point guard position, the two, the three, the four – the four I would have to say Andrea (Bargnani) has pretty much got that solidified right now – but the five position and those positions are going to be competitive as far as for minutes.”kjl;’jkl

[DWAGAAEEEAParticipant]

“(The rotation is) probably eight to nine (players),” Casey said. “If (the rookies) are not in the rotation, they are going to get a lot of individual work. This year is about winning, getting the five, eight, nine guys on the court that are going to produce a win. We are not going to use games to develop guys like we did last year.”kjhi565656

[g4r43Participant]

They might only be words, but that seems like a decent description of how a winning team is born. It’s not as if its as easy as Kirilenko says it, Timberwolves do it, but that attitude already seems to be sticking. There have been the first hints of success, but these players know that it goes beyond statistics or point totals, and they know that it can get better.

[g4r43Participant]

Brown said he elected to rest Gasol after deciding the four-time All-Star big man looked ”a little fatigued” in recent days. The coach rested Bryant for an exhibition last week, making both moves against the veteran stars’ good-natured objections.i6t7u56

[g4r43Participant]

Kirilenko’s presence was immediate, infusing the starting group with deft passing and defensive tenacity that the Wolves will sorely need with Ricky Rubio expected miss at least the first six weeks while recovering from surgery to repair a torn ACL in his left knee.

[g4r43Participant]

With a healthy Love and Kirilenko, Timberwolves coach Rick Adelman wanted to start looking at combinations that will be used extensively early in the season. The Timberwolves have six new players who figure to play major minutes this season, and Adelman gave them plenty of playing time on Tuesday night.-]0-0

[g4r43Participant]

The talent disparity turned the game into a glorified practice for the Wolves, which is just what they needed. Love, Kirilenko, Roy and Nikola Pekovic all played at least 25 minutes, with starting point guard Luke Ridnour playing 21 while he works his way back from a back injury that limited his ability to practice in training camp.
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[g4r43Participant]

The talent disparity turned the game into a glorified practice for the Wolves, which is just what they needed. Love, Kirilenko, Roy and Nikola Pekovic all played at least 25 minutes, with starting point guard Luke Ridnour playing 21 while he works his way back from a back injury that limited his ability to practice in training camp.[808989

[g4r43Participant]

“I just want to come in everyday and try and make everybody better. You have to take the game that much more serious,” Irving said. “Going forward, especially going into my sophomore year, I just need to slow my game down and just be more efficient.”bsdfg3434

[g4r43Participant]

“Tonight, I looked at the stat line and I had no assists. It was crazy,” Irving said after the preseason game against Chicago. “We definitely have to get to that second side of the pick-and-roll where I can make my teammates better… we’ve just got to continue getting better at that.”o6858767

[saty342323Participant]

Friday night, against the Charlotte Bobcats, Curry netted similar numbers with 11 points, seven rebounds and a hefty three blocks. Granted, this is the preseason and last night’s game was against the Bobcats, but for an injured Mavericks team, Curry might have played his way into a roster spot.

[saty342323Participant]

In order for Curry to stick in Dallas, the Mavericks would have to complete a buyout or waive West, then make the decision that Curry is the right player to keep moving forward. Like Curry told HOOPSWORLD, the ultimate decision will be with the Mavericks as to whether or not the 10-year vet gets a shot at redemption in Dallas.

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