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- Posted on: Mon, 05/25/2009 - 12:23pm #4129
gregoden08ParticipantWhy does this site hate on Ty Lawson so much? I mean, they have Patty Mills ahead of him in the PG rankings…WHAT THE HELL HAS PATTY DONE? Also, why does this site insist that Blake will be such a great player? I remember someone saying on here that he could be a better version of the mailman…LOL. Funny joke, right?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/25/2009 - 12:34pm #153013
butidonthavemoneyGriffen will be good but he is no mailman. He isn’t as mean as Karl Malone. If you flashed Malone an akward eye he would smack you in the face with his big blunt elbows. It was like he had huge baseball bats attached to his body.
I agree with you about Lawson.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/25/2009 - 12:38pm #153016
2K_DAVISParticipantty lawson will not be elite u could look ard the nba and find 100 ty lawsons sitting on the bench
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/25/2009 - 12:58pm #153031
gregoden08ParticipantWhen did I ever say elite? He could still be a servicable starter/back up.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/25/2009 - 1:21pm #153042
nthegoodlifeParticipantHow much respect does he deserve then, he seems to be getting what he’s worthy of.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/25/2009 - 1:22pm #153043
jlaudioParticipantmills showed in the olympics why is better than ty lawson
0- Posted on: Mon, 05/25/2009 - 2:07pm #153060
gregoden08ParticipantThat means nothing to me.
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- Posted on: Mon, 05/25/2009 - 2:49pm #153075
auberParticipantI have Lawson as the 3rd best pg of this draft and the 4th taken behind Rubio,Jennings, Flynn. The pick to phoenix really has his name all over it. If its not him my moneys on Blair if he makes it down there.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/25/2009 - 3:44pm #153093
eprizzle14ParticipantDo you just feel like ignoring Mills performance in the olympics what if I wanted to ignore ACC basketball, it makes no sense. Basketball is basketball unless it’s played against WEAK competition, which was’nt the case with Mills.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/25/2009 - 4:05pm #153096
QHaynes123Lawson is a right arm bandit…there are alot of PG who are undersized and can do well in the league
Lawson =Telfair
There is a reason he went back for another season…teams werent feeling him
0- Posted on: Mon, 05/25/2009 - 4:30pm #153099
gregoden08ParticipantActually, he came back to win a National Championship. Also, he has improved his J since last year and he is a lot stronger than Telfair.
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- Posted on: Mon, 05/25/2009 - 4:50pm #153101
ncballerHmmmm…if someone told me a PG that led their team to the championship averaged 17 points, 7 assists set a record amount of steals in the championship game and shot 53% from the field, 47% from 3, 80% from the FT line, was the Bob Cousy Award winner was the ACC POY in a conference which had the former NPOY, and owned an unheard of 3.48 to 1 A:T ratio you would think he would be a lottery pick on this site wouldn’t you?
I think Ty Lawson took someone’s lunch money on this website. The only thing you can knock on Lawson for his his height he answered the questions about his shot, defense, and decision making this season. Even though Ellington won MVP of the tourney, anyone will tell you that UNC doesn’t win it without Lawson.
Two Words: Aaron Brooks. I don’t think Brooks was half the player Lawson was coming out. Teams are going to be kicking themselves for not taking Lawson in the lottery. If he somehow falls out of the lottery he will be the biggest steal in the draft. The kid is big time.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/25/2009 - 6:26pm #153106
nthegoodlifeParticipantHe could possibly be good, but stats and awards don’t mean anything when determining if a player will make it in the pro’s. He has more knocks than you list. He seems to have a short reach, can he run a half court offense, can he guard nba pg’s, how long will it take to develop a true J (his set shot isn’t going to work on the next level), create his shot, & out of those, I would say his biggest question mark would be relating to his ability to run the half court O. Personally, the quality I like most about him, is his will to win (he does have fight in him).
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/26/2009 - 1:24am #153155
UNC4eva8806ParticipantYou can’t be serious, the way ty made decisions in a high octane offense that called for him to make quick decisions on the run what would make you think he couldn’t run a half court offense. And set shot!!!! Andre Miller has got by year in and year out with his set shot!!! and with Ty’s quickness how couldn’t he create his on shot!!! LOL crazy… how can people on this site knock Ty, but be so high on Johnny Flynn whose smaller and turnover prone… Ty will be way better than Johnny… AND Q HAYNES IF TY= TELFAIR, FLYNN=MARBURY!!!!
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/26/2009 - 4:13am #153163
ucantcheckmejdj3ParticipantPhoenix will probably take Lawson if Flynn is off the board
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/26/2009 - 4:21am #153170
JNixonParticipantTy Lawson will not be better than Jonny Flynn.
0- Posted on: Tue, 05/26/2009 - 5:27am #153175
dale20manParticipantJonny Flynn is younger, has more potential, is just as fast/quick, and is more athletic. Can Lawson even dunk?
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- Posted on: Tue, 05/26/2009 - 6:31am #153184
2K_DAVISParticipantlawson can’t shoot off the dribble. the only reason he shoots ok is because they leave him open. acie law was blowin by college players, the truth is the nba is a whole different lvl. that drivin to the basket won’t be as eazy in the nba. look at jarred bayless and cdr who were great in college players. he is short which is not that big of a deal but without i nice shooting stroke off the dribble i gonna be hard strive in the nba.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/26/2009 - 11:02am #153260
ncballerLawson got the best defenders on him game in and out. Lawson was open because people couldn’t afford to guard him close they would pack the lane. Once he would hit a few shots he would attack the lane. Who says he has to score to be a good NBA player anyway. He is an excellent passer and makes great decisions. I agree he needs to work on shooting off the dribble, but it is not as big of a problem as you make it out to be. Law doesn’t have half of Lawson’s physical gifts. Lawson’s speed is on par with Felton, Brooks, Conley, Paul, etc. and they all have made a living in the NBA. Lawson will be no different as he is an awesome finisher. You are comparing Lawson to a 6’7″ slow SG and a raw combo guard who is expected to fully develop years from now I fail to see the comparison.
To the person who questions if Lawson can dunk (watch the whole mix while you are at it):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGmJUk4sVOw
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/26/2009 - 11:55am #153266
2K_DAVISParticipantPLZ do not compare him to chris paul. anyone can be a good passer and acie law is super fast. the reality is why waste a 1st rd pick on a gaurd that cant shoot. i would rather have aj price
Ty Lawson Detailed Weaknesses
Plays at one blinding speed, hasn’t shown the ability to play at different speeds. Not a great three point shooter Lawson also needs to improve his jumper and free throw shooting. Besides driving he isn’t much of a scorer Lawson must be able to shoot off the dribble at the next level. Mid range game is missing, and Lawson is considered undersized for NBA, and has a small wingspan leaving scouts to question his defensive potential.0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/26/2009 - 12:58pm #153281
ncballer2K_Davis, I don’t think Lawson will be the player Paul is but they have similar body types, and athleticism. Paul’s talent is amazing. I was just trying to compare him to PG’s his size that have had success in the NBA. Law does not have near the quicks Lawson has. Disagree about anyone being a good passer. It is an art and Lawson was one of the best this season making incredible decisions. But I am glad you would rather have a PG that never saw a shot he didn’t like.
I have watched Lawson from his junior year of HS to this season. He CAN run a halfcourt set. He proved that this season. If you had posted that a year ago I would have agreed that he only plays at one speed, but that is simply not the case anymore. To say he is not a great 3 point shooter or free throw shooter IMHO is just ignoring the facts. His 80% FT% and 47% 3 point % beg to differ. Now grant it he only attempted 108 3’s this year but he takes smart shots. He may not be an elite shooter, but he is good enough to succeed in the NBA if you ask me. His mid-range game and shooting off the dribble have come a long ways too since his freshman year. He could stand to work more on it but it’s not near the problem you make it out to be, because he has proved he can make the shot when defenses pack the lane in. And we all know what happens when you play him up close he will just blow by you.
Lawson is going to have teams kicking themselves if they let him get by the lottery. I will say it again, fringe all-star.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/26/2009 - 1:29pm #153288
2K_DAVISParticipanti respect your opinion but i just don’t see him performing anything like that in the nba, at his size an off the dribble shot and midrange game is a must.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/26/2009 - 1:35pm #153290
a2ParticipantLawson will be a ok player in the NBA. He was pretty good in college but the NBA and college are two different games. He has the speed and passing ability put his lack of height and overall athleticism might hurt him. I see him as a solid back up point guard.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/26/2009 - 2:43pm #153313
ncballerNot sure where all this lack of athleticism talk is coming from all of a sudden. No one can stay in front of him. But I digress.
To each their own 2K_Davis, it was a pleasure debating you.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/31/2009 - 9:34am #154813
2K_DAVISParticipantyep
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