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- Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 1:40pm #43494
Sharp ShooterParticipantThroughout the years the all star game is thrught to reward the deserving players for their play/record through the first half of the season , some made it by a hair or just flat out lucky. If you could name some players who didn’t deserve to be in a ASG, but somehow managed to get voted in anyway who would they be?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 1:42pm #716459
F_Si didn’t like joe johnson last year. i think his teammate josh smith deserved it more.
i didn’t like roy hibbert in the ASG. but there is a lack of bigs
0- Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 2:16pm #716467
Sharp ShooterParticipantYea i agree, Roy Hibbert shouldn’t have been there.
But also, i would have to say Zydrunas Illgauskas of the 2003 ASG as well
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- Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 2:11pm #716465
EDEDnowisgoneSteve Francis
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 2:22pm #716468
ProudGrandpaParticipantOk, what Eastern conference Center would you put in over him?
0- Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 4:09pm #716498
Sharp ShooterParticipantGreg Monroe—–please don’t say anything about teams records because if they were basing this off teams records then Tracy McGrady wouldn’t be selected as many times as he did.
0- Posted on: Thu, 09/27/2012 - 1:54am #716558
OGWIKIBEParticipantOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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- Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 2:22pm #716469
corneggParticipantAlonzo Mouring in 02
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 2:27pm #716470
Hi its BenParticipantDidnt Jamaal Magloire make it one year? lol
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 2:30pm #716471
Ny2daDeathOFmeParticipanti would have put tyson chandler over hibbert
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 2:50pm #716476
ProudGrandpaParticipantChandler was a slightly better defender and much worse offensive center and he played for a much worse team
0- Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 2:54pm #716478
F_Scall it what you want but stats go like this:
tyson: 11 pts on 68fg%
hibbert: 13 pts on 50fg%
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- Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 3:05pm #716480
Ny2daDeathOFmeParticipanthe was way more efficient then hibbert.
while being a better defender
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 3:31pm #716486
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantLuol Deng
I like guys that play hard more than the next guy and I realize how much he means for the Bulls but he did nothing that Josh Smith didn’t do. 15ppg and 6rpg doesn’t exactly scream all-star. It says he’s a very good complimentary piece but it does not show how he should have been an All-Star. Hell, Rajon Rondo only made it because of Joe Johnson when he should have been a shoe-in.
0- Posted on: Sun, 09/30/2012 - 5:07am #717234
NooMMMAParticipantLuol Deng
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- Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 3:40pm #716488
Seamo15ParticipantThese days it hard to weigh to much on Allstars selection seeing as its popularity based. That being said Joshn Howard suprised me when he played in one .
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 3:51pm #716490
Bill Walton’s KneesParticipantJosh Howard
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 3:55pm #716492
Bill Walton’s KneesParticipantMo Williams made one as well
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 3:58pm #716494
BenchWarmerParticipantMo Williams or jameer nelson a couple years ago. Good players, definitely not an allstars. Weird how the west guards were getting snubbed and these guys were making it in the east.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 4:00pm #716495
EDEDnowisgonehoward was playeing great though wans’t he over 20 a game and a great defender at the time
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 4:06pm #716497
llperezthrought the years, there have been numerous times where big men in the east have made it despite not being anything spectacular in my eyes. Heres some that ive seen:
charles oakley in 1994. He averaged just under 12 and 12 that year
tyrone hill in 1995. He averaged 14 and 11 that year
jayson williams in 1998. He averaged 13 and 14 that year
dale davis in 2000. He averaged 10 and 10 that year
antonio davis in 2001. He averaged 14 and 10 that year
brad miller in 2003. He averaged 13 and 8 that year
jamaal magloire in 2004. He averaged 14 and 10 that year
rasheed wallace in 2008. He averaged 13 and 7 on 43% shooting no less
al horford in 2010. He averaged 14 and 10
roy hibbert in 2012. He averaged 13 and 9
You can also throw in names like horace grant, christian leattner, david lee, vin baker in his second pro season before he really establshed himself and garnett in 2011 when he was not having a great year. Im not saying these guys didnt deserve to be there over other candidates, but clearly there has always been a slight lack of superstar bigs in the eastern conference that has allowed solid role players to get invites.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 4:12pm #716501
ItsVictorOladipoParticipantI don’t know how many guys on here will remember this but BJ Armstrong was voted the Eastern Conference starter at PG in the All-Star game in 1994.
An absolute travesty, he averaged a career high 14.8 PPG, 3.9 APG, 2.1 RPG and 1 SPG as the Bull PG that season. He wasn’t a good defender, he wasn’t a good passer, was a poor rebounder, and couldn’t really penetrate. The only thing he could do was shoot. And unlike the Jamaal Magloire selection (where there was a pathetic group of centers to choose from), there were plenty of deserving guards in 1994.
Mark Price was the backup on the East team and averaged 17.3 PPG, 7.8 APG, 3 RPG and 1.4 SPG while shooting 47.8% from the field, 39.7% from the 3PT line and 88.8% from the charity stripe.
Reggie Miller was completely snubbed that year. Averaged 19.9 PPG for the Pacers and had a rare 50-40-90 year (50.3 FG%, 42.1 3PT%, 90.8 FT%)
Penny Hardaway averaged 16 PPG, 6.6 APG, 5.4 RPG and 2.3 SPG as a rookie and didn’t make the All-Star team either.
Also Steve Smith didn’t make the team and he averaged 17.3 PPG, 5.1 APG, 4.5 RPG.
Any of those 4 guys would’ve been more deserving than Armstrong.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 4:14pm #716502
EDEDnowisgoneDana Barros was an all star was talked about in a different thread but he actually had a huge year like 20 and 8 and good shooting %
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 4:15pm #716503
llperez^^^ yeah bj was an odd one. Just to show how important he was, the bulls left him available for the expansion draft that very next summer. He didnt belong there in all star game
0- Posted on: Tue, 10/02/2012 - 9:42pm #717725
PROBALLWAParticipantwhile being a better defender
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- Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 4:15pm #716504
llperezdana barros deserved his bid, no question.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 5:35pm #716521
sportspolymathParticipantbecasue the league did it to appease LeBron, and that should never happen.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 5:36pm #716522
EDEDnowisgoneno doubt Barros did the guy who said Howard made me think of Barros though because Howard no doubt deserved it he was 20 7 and great defense for a few years then had injuries
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/26/2012 - 6:18pm #716532
iguapops420ParticipantDamn you @Dwight, you beat me to it. BJ was the very first name that came to mind.
Mark Eaton was my other name. Didnt see anyone else mention him. ASG 89′ at 32 years of age.
6.2pts,10.3ebs, 4blks on 46%fg. Eye popping bpg numbers, but nothing else says all-star. Not to mention he was very lumbering 7ft4, 275 lbs.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 09/27/2012 - 4:54am #716572
theballerwayParticipantGuys like Mo Williams were generally the second leading scorer on a team with a gd record thats how they sneak in. I was thinking this might have applied to Bj but I imagine Scottie was the well established 2nd fiddle. Probably helped Jayson Williams too as Im suer that had a strong record
The center sitation is actually a disgrace. The requirements are soo minimal at the moment due to the weakness at that position
and I could be mistaken but I think Antonio Davis was a replacement pick
0 - Posted on: Thu, 09/27/2012 - 8:07am #716595
steviechillzParticipantJameer Nelson 2009
Jamaal Magloire 2004
Mehmet Okur 2007
0 - Posted on: Thu, 09/27/2012 - 10:10am #716610
Chilbert arenasParticipantDamnit Steviechillz, I was about to say Okur!
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/02/2012 - 1:34am #717547
ZOOKINGSAWAParticipantI think they want to prove, not only to the rest of the league, but to our team that they can play and they want to fit in. There are a lot of veteran guys, we have a good mix of young guys who are hungry and want to get better, but we also have some veteran guys that also want to win.”
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/02/2012 - 8:17am #717594
RUDEBOY_ParticipantI remember Karl Malone being upset when AC Green was voted a starter over him in 1990….I guess its similar to when BJ Armstrong was named a starter,playing in Chicago & LA on marquee teams and in big media markets played into it……
I didnt feel James Donaldson deserved to be named an all star in 1988..He averaged only 7 pts that season…
Sometimes coaches will give a spot to former all stars, just because of what they did in the past..
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/10/2012 - 1:38am #719569
SAPIWiKEParticipantJosh Howard
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/16/2012 - 2:34am #721100
Lakers_own_uParticipantLillard connected on three 3-pointers early in the third to rally Portland and scored 11 points in the quarter.
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