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  • #40625
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    Alright guys this is the place to discuss the Nugs pick in the user mock draft. Picking at 20 is hard to prepare for but I feel like a perimeter scoring at the 2/3, a post-scorer or a stretch 4 would be our ideal options. I like Doron Lamb simply because I think he’ll be there and he brings the perimeter scoring we need in our half court offense. He’s also underrated as a ball handler and can get to the hoop at times. He rarely makes mistakes and straight away makes Ty and Gallo more effective at penetrating because he will stretch out the defense for us. Let me know what you’re thinking.

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  • #685437
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    i think if either of the jones fall to the nuggets they will snatch either one up in a heartbeat like you said would like to have a strech 4 the nuggets really like to run fast paced which is good for both t jones and p jones so they would love if either fell into there lap but seeming both will most likley be gone maybe someone like a moe harkless would be good for them?? i think doron lamb is a great player and would defaintly see the court for the nuggets cause hes a great all around player but is a combo guard a big need for them?

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  • #685442
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    If either of those fell I think the Nugs would snap them up. I doubt either fall that far though and depending on who else is available I would consider passing on PJ III because I have some serious doubts about him. As far as a combo guard, Andre Miller is out of contract and is getting on a bit and more importantly our two guard depth behind Afflalo at the moment probably starts with Jordan Hamilton (who I think will make great strides this season). That being said I think what we need the most is an outside threat because in games where we can’t control the tempo our offense sizzles out because good teams crowd the paint and prevent Ty and Gallo penetrating in the half-court because we have no consistent outside shooter. Lamb is very much a deep threat and the fact he can play some 1 at times is simply a bonus.

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  • #685446
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     yeah your right about the pj3 thing he has serious motor problems but maybe karl is just the right coach for him! and jordan hamilton was one of my favorite college players i think he is a great outside option i think the main reason he didnt get alot of playing time is he doesnt play the best defense and i think he has been working on it and i forgot miller was a FA and doron can defaintly play the 1 and is one of the most consistent players in this draft you know what your getting with him also another name could be sully!!! he could be great for the nuggets seeming is falling he might fall right in there lap!

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  • #686464
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    If Sullinger falls that far I think we have to snatch him up and take a risk.

     

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  • #686484
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    Based on who is likely to be available.

    1. Sullinger

    2. Doron Lamb

    3. Terrence Jones

    4. Royce White

    5. Nocholson

    Will update if these guys get selected before the pick and the list starts to get bare.

     

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  • #686517
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    Tony Wroten- It absolutely is a reach, but hear me out.

    1. Karl can keep him focused and improving.

    2. Nuggets have a bunch of great shooters and very few slashers. So it makes sense to add a slasher to get those shooters open.

    3. Wroten is a poor shooter, but you already have a bunch of shooters so it doesnt hurt the team.

    4. He has great size and strength. Between him and Afflalo you can switch both defensive responsibilities and ball handling responsibilities easily to adjust to your opponent.

    5. Nuggets are a deep team that lack "star" power. Wroten could be a star the Nuggest need and if he’s not, you still have a deep team that’s making the playoffs.

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  • #686534
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    I like Wroten’s potential, and was tempted to add him to my list. The issue is I would disagree with you regarding Denver’s needs – I think a lack of shooters seriously hinders us in the half court. We have no lights out shooter on the squad and guys like Ty and Gallo are better with the ball in their hand penetrating to the bucket. Bar Afflalo who else would you describe as a shooter on the Nuggets?

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  • #686548
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    Lawson- 200 3pt shot attempts. Afflalo 221 3’s attempts, Harrington 303 attempts (holy $%&# did he shoot alot), Gallinari- lower than I would have thought with 183 attempts. Cory Brewer is in no way a lights out shooter and he had 127 attempts, and lastly Rudy fernandez has 122 attempts.

    All of these players on the Nuggets took more 3 pt shots than Shane Battier who lead the Miami Heat in 3 point attempts at 110. The most 3 point attempts for the OKC Thunder was Durant with again 110 attempts.

    If those Nuggets players are not shooters then they are seriously wrong in how they are playing.

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  • #686556
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    How many of them are effective shooters? We don’t have a Lebron James, D-Wade, Durant or Westbrook so when the game slows down and we can’t get out on the break teams clog the middle and force the forementioned guys to take perimeter shots. We need effective shooters to spread the floor so that guys like Lawson and Gallo can penetrate easier and not settle from 3. Al Buckets, Brewer and Fernandez just don’t scare teams and if anything their high attempts from downtown demonstrate our need for a more effective option to take these shots instead of them.

    On top of this, Wroten will take the ball out of the hands of Lawson and Gallo who are our primary ball handlers. I feel we need to make Ty the focus of our offense this season and the nature of Wroten’s game means he would simply be taking touches away from these guys.

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  • #686560
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    Look at those guys three point percentages and you’ll find most of those guys have something seriously wrong with the way they play (i.e. to many attempts from three). Brewer is a slasher who gets out on the break and Al Buckets is infuriatingly infatuated with the 3 due to his lack of athleticism. With the way Ty and Gallo get to the rim, and the way we move the ball a lights out shooter should be hitting close to 40% from 3.

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  • #686563
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    Durant attempted 344 threes this season

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  • #686566
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  • #686569
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    Your right, I was looking at Durant’s playoff attempts not regular season attempts. I think we are talking about the same problem with different solutions. The problem is Denver doesn’t attack the rim. I think they should get a slasher and let Afflao and Galo shoot 3’s. You think they need a shooter so that Lawson and and Galo can drive and the new guy is the one to shoot the 3’s. Honestly, I really could see Denver being successful in both senarios.

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