Been meaning to post this for a while but I was watching a Knicks game on NBA TV one day and it was absolutely wonderful to hear a game done by Mike Breen and Walt Frazier. Although Clyde is a Knickerbocker through and through, he never said "we", he called the game objectively and had great insight on the opposition as well. I don't even need to go in depth on Mike Breen and his abilities. Along those lines, the TNT and ESPN/ABC crews do a good job and I am sure required to keep away from bias. I've had the league pass before and watch other games on NBA TV and get soooo offended (bad pun to my username) by some of these local guys and how their superiors allow the broadcaster to completely ignore any journalistic objectivity. I do understand these "color guys" have little to no broadcasting backgrounds but s***, can't someone at least get them a crash course on how it's supposed to be done . Stacy King is an abomination. The Pistons and Bucks guys are real bad. So are the Sixers guys. Shawn Elliot got in a fight with Big Cuz seemingly because he is a homer to the extreme.
Now that it pops in my mind, I feel semi hypocritical, as I am a die hards St. Louis Cardinals fan and our broadcasters are biased in that you can tell their excitement comes from plays resulting in Cardinals success and I enjoy those guys. However, I have never heard them use the word "we" and I think that is where the line is drawn. It is a mockery to whatever journalism is left in the sporting/broadcasting world (which is a even bigger subject within itself).
Seeing as you guys are from different markets, I was wondering your thoughts or concerns or disagreement with my position. I also would like to know if they are guys out there, like the crews I mentioned, in local markets that can keep any professional integrity.
I used to hate watching Laker Games because the announcers were so Biased,
( every call against them was a bad call, Every Laker Player should be on the allstar team, ect...)
I know how you feel, our Warriors guys aren't that bad, I feel like their pretty fair, but every time I watch games online, I realize how terrible those commentators are. Some of them are good, but a lot of them don't even do their homework. Mike Breen's pretty good, but the other NBATV guys to me are pretty average, I realize how grateful we are for guys like Chuck, Kenny, Mike Wilbon, Jalen Rose, Magic, and even Shaq.
I feel the exact same way, I've been feeling this for quite a while... The Hawks commentators have started to be very biased. Every play is 'We, we, we" They provide almost no insight on the opposing teams and they often disagree with calls that go against the Hawks.
Lol what BigChamp said. I live in the Southeast so I get local Hawks and Braves games (I'm a Braves fan but not much of a Hawks one, but I still watch the games) and announcers are ALWAYS saying "we" this and "we" that lol. It's not so bad if you're a Braves/Hawks fan, but if you don't like them then I could see it being pretty irritating
Keep in mind their goal is to get ratings. Since it is local, it probably helps for them to be a bit biased. There are certain national announcers that fan bases hate, because of the way they speak of their team. People like to watch games with other fans of their team, it helps if the broadcasters are right there with them.
The Kings games are broadcast through Comcast sports and the color guy- Jerry Reynolds- is actually director of player personnel for the Kings. He is a pretty awful commentator, but I do like Grant Napear, although a lot of people around here do not. He is from NY and is a Knicks fan.
Neither says "we" even though Reynolds could get away with it. Napear will call out bad shots and stupid fouls on the Kings, and will even call out certain players. Compared to a lot of the other markets, he is pretty good, so is the radio guy out here Gary Gerould.
Yeah that's something I thought about when posting this but as you can see from our fellow posters, a lot of the time viewers feel alienated instead of enthused by their local personalities. It's a good point, I just think there should be a threshold that shouldn't be crossed, regardless of viewership.
Totally agree, only problem is that lot of those guys are in studio. Shaq is terrible though, he has the brain activity of a boxer. Adds nothing, actually suntracts from Inside, in my opinion.
Tommy Heinsohn, from the Boston Celtics is likely the most bias commentator of all of basketball.
Amen. Couldn't agree more
Try living in Chicago with Stacey King, and the worst of all time regarding being biased- Hawk Harrelson. "You gotta be bleepin me!"
I watch a few Rockets games here and they're not too bad. The Clippers guys aren't bad either. Sean Elliot and Tommy Heinsohn are the worst I have heard. I don't mind the bias or the "we." But when guys don't talk about the other team and their talented players it gets bothersome. Like when the opposing team makes an amazing play they got lucky or ref missed a call. And every call against their team was horrible. It gets sickening at times.
Rockets guys aren't bad at all. Actually they are so fair, I sometimes wonder if they realize how good a team the rockets already are and with a little experience will get a lot better. If I where a rocket fan I wouldn't be able to stop myself from gloating a lot. Hardens 23, so three or more years from his prime. Yikes! Everyone else on the team is young, locked up long term and they have salary cap room to add another max contract! double yikes!
I often realize that when my african cook and I watch a basketball game on espy, that my explanations of each of the players and the stuff i tell him to give him insight about players abilities and what not, is better than the bull &$#%#&@! you hear on tv.
I might be wrong about this and there's alot of Jazz fans on here so I'm sure they'll let me know if I am. But whenever I watch Utah games the Jazz commentators seem like they're bored. No energy and just incredibly low key, I'd almost prefer bias if it came with a little enthusiasm.
Do you get Pacers broadcasts?