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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:14am #54023

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As everyone know granger was traded to the sixers. There are reports that there would be a buyout for him. So therefore he will be a FA, and he can choose to go wherever. Personally, I would like the pistons to make a run for Danny Granger. Pistons are in need of a shooter. I thought they were going to at least make a trade for one, but Dumars decided to stand pat. And there are reports that Pistons may buyout Charlies contract.
Back to Granger, it would give them another perimeter threat. He can start at SG, or come off the bench as SG. It could be a low risk high reward kind of deal. As for his health, the pistons have one of the better medical staff in the nba so they can work with him on his injured knees.
In reality (and how the NBA is nowadays) Granger would likely go to The Heat, Spurs, OKC, etc But it is still something that I think that is attainable to by Dumars?

Where do think Granger will go?

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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:22am #873783

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Pistons would actually be a good fit.. They would be a scary team in the playoffs if DG is 100%
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- Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 7:35pm #874034
  
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  The Pistons aren’t scaring anyone. Larry Bird himself couldn’t solve their floor spacing issues with Jennings (Who has the worst FG % of any player averaging 10+ PPG) Josh Smith, Monroe, and Drummond all playing big minutes. Granger will want to sign with an actual contender….not a team that fired their coach midway through the season.
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- Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 7:35pm #873926
  
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  The Pistons aren’t scaring anyone. Larry Bird himself couldn’t solve their floor spacing issues with Jennings (Who has the worst FG % of any player averaging 10+ PPG) Josh Smith, Monroe, and Drummond all playing big minutes. Granger will want to sign with an actual contender….not a team that fired their coach midway through the season.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:22am #873888

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Pistons would actually be a good fit.. They would be a scary team in the playoffs if DG is 100%
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:27am #873787

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teams that I wouldn’t mind seeing him go to. Those would be Clippers, Suns, Dallas or Chicago. I think he could be a good fit on those teams, most likely coming off the bench to provide some scoring.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:27am #873892

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teams that I wouldn’t mind seeing him go to. Those would be Clippers, Suns, Dallas or Chicago. I think he could be a good fit on those teams, most likely coming off the bench to provide some scoring.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:29am #873785

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Granger is still a good player and relatively still young too. I believe he is back from his injury physically wise, I don’t know mentally if he is. The best place for him is the Clippers, imo. They can’t contend for a ring in the league now in this generation without a legit SF. Granger if healthy is that.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:29am #873890

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Granger is still a good player and relatively still young too. I believe he is back from his injury physically wise, I don’t know mentally if he is. The best place for him is the Clippers, imo. They can’t contend for a ring in the league now in this generation without a legit SF. Granger if healthy is that.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:29am #873789

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Detroit needs him worse than anyone perhaps. They really need a good shooting SF. He will likely end up in one of the places you mentioned though. Dumars just not making smart moves right now and not being very aggressive either. He had a chance to dump Smith but wanted too much. With Granger, Butler, and Jefferson all decent SF’s who were/are out there to move on…looks like Detroit blew it. One of those guys is likely going to the Heat. It doesnt end there though. Clark could be on his way out from Cleveland, he’d be nice for Detroit too I think. I’d really like to have Granger on my team though because he could be great value once he works the rust off and regains some of his old form.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:29am #873894

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Detroit needs him worse than anyone perhaps. They really need a good shooting SF. He will likely end up in one of the places you mentioned though. Dumars just not making smart moves right now and not being very aggressive either. He had a chance to dump Smith but wanted too much. With Granger, Butler, and Jefferson all decent SF’s who were/are out there to move on…looks like Detroit blew it. One of those guys is likely going to the Heat. It doesnt end there though. Clark could be on his way out from Cleveland, he’d be nice for Detroit too I think. I’d really like to have Granger on my team though because he could be great value once he works the rust off and regains some of his old form.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:42am #873791

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Okay there is something that needs to be said seeing as I’m getting the feeling many people don’t know how buyouts work in terms of money. A player won’t go to a team that offers more money. The contract they get from a new team just goes to what the other team doesn’t have to pay. So if Granger and the 76ers agree to a 10 mil buyout for instance, and he then goes on to sign a 1 mil contract with the Clippers for example. He doesn’t end up getting 11 mil. He gets the 10 mil, but the 76ers now pay 9 mil, with the Clippers paying 1 mil of it. Same goes with Glen Davis. People were alluding he would go to the Hawks(other places) or Nets because they can offer more money. That isn’t the case. He doesn’t also get that money with the money he gets from a buyout. It just gets deducted from what the buying out team pays the player.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:42am #873896

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Okay there is something that needs to be said seeing as I’m getting the feeling many people don’t know how buyouts work in terms of money. A player won’t go to a team that offers more money. The contract they get from a new team just goes to what the other team doesn’t have to pay. So if Granger and the 76ers agree to a 10 mil buyout for instance, and he then goes on to sign a 1 mil contract with the Clippers for example. He doesn’t end up getting 11 mil. He gets the 10 mil, but the 76ers now pay 9 mil, with the Clippers paying 1 mil of it. Same goes with Glen Davis. People were alluding he would go to the Hawks(other places) or Nets because they can offer more money. That isn’t the case. He doesn’t also get that money with the money he gets from a buyout. It just gets deducted from what the buying out team pays the player.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:43am #873793

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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:43am #873898

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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:49am #873797

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http://nba.si.com/2014/02/21/danny-granger-pissed-trade-76ers-pacers-spurs-heat/
Reports are coming out that Danny Granger is “pissed” over being traded to the 76ers and if he is bought out, he is reportedly targeting the Miami Heat, San Antonio Spurs, or Oklahoma City.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:49am #873902

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http://nba.si.com/2014/02/21/danny-granger-pissed-trade-76ers-pacers-spurs-heat/
Reports are coming out that Danny Granger is “pissed” over being traded to the 76ers and if he is bought out, he is reportedly targeting the Miami Heat, San Antonio Spurs, or Oklahoma City.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:55am #873803

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Since the Spurs failed to acquire Thaddeus Young, Granger would be a great fill in/backup for Kawhi Leonard. Also would seem to really fit in Poppovich’s system.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 9:55am #873908

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Since the Spurs failed to acquire Thaddeus Young, Granger would be a great fill in/backup for Kawhi Leonard. Also would seem to really fit in Poppovich’s system.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 1:08pm #873841

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I think the Granger trade and aftermath show there is something wrong in the NBA/with the current CBA (draft process). A player like Granger has value as a scorer, especially on a team like the 76ers who have only left MCW and Young as decent players. Buying out players like Granger (but also Big Baby to be honest) shouldn’t be the standard in the current NBA.
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- Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 7:37pm #874036
  
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  There is 0 chance he would resign in Philly anyway…so why not just buy him out now instead of having a malcontent rubbing off on your young guys. This trade was never about getting Granger for Philly.
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- Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 7:37pm #873928
  
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  There is 0 chance he would resign in Philly anyway…so why not just buy him out now instead of having a malcontent rubbing off on your young guys. This trade was never about getting Granger for Philly.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 02/23/2014 - 3:55am #874072
    
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    Could also talk Granger into taking a buyout at a reduced price, thus saving money. (assuming he was to walk in the offseason).
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  - Posted on: Sun, 02/23/2014 - 3:55am #873964
    
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    Could also talk Granger into taking a buyout at a reduced price, thus saving money. (assuming he was to walk in the offseason).
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 1:08pm #873947

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I think the Granger trade and aftermath show there is something wrong in the NBA/with the current CBA (draft process). A player like Granger has value as a scorer, especially on a team like the 76ers who have only left MCW and Young as decent players. Buying out players like Granger (but also Big Baby to be honest) shouldn’t be the standard in the current NBA.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 1:12pm #873843

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He can be pissed all he wants but he probably holds more value being kept until the end of the season and used as a sign and trade over the summer so he can net a draft pick which the Sixers enjoy collecting. A buyout does more for him than the team and they don’t owe him any favors. They need to maximize what value he has – its a business
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- Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 1:23pm #873847
  
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  Rather than go sit the pine on a contender, it might be wise for him to stay and show the league he can still put up decent numbers. No reason he can’t average 17 & 7 on that team and try and get his value up as he heads into the offseason to set himself up for likely his last contract
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- Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 1:23pm #873953
  
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  Rather than go sit the pine on a contender, it might be wise for him to stay and show the league he can still put up decent numbers. No reason he can’t average 17 & 7 on that team and try and get his value up as he heads into the offseason to set himself up for likely his last contract
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- Posted on: Sun, 02/23/2014 - 4:14am #874074
  
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  Why would he sign and trade, to get more money? If he got paid he would have to go to a bad team because the contenders are not interested and are unable to afford him unless he is making the MLE at most; also if he went to a bad team he wouldn’t need to sign and trade with Philly, just sign with the bad team. In business you need leverage and the Sixers are fresh out when it comes to dealing with Granger, he can sit and get paid, goof off/jack shots and get paid, and take a buyout and get paid to play somewhere else (this would be the best choice for philly as they could save money on the buyout agreement rather than paying the full salary.)
  Doing a sign and trade (ala Lebron from the Cavs) is a move to get the bird rights, extra year on a contract, and yearly salary increase (8% compared to 10.5%) from the former team. Bird rights wouldn’t help Granger too much as nobody is going to go over the salary limit extensively to sign him (unless the use the mle which they could do anyways), Granger won’t get a deal for six years, and the 2.5% extra salary increase on a 5 million dollar contract (MLE-ish) would be about $100,000 pre-tax which isn’t significant enough to make Granger base a decision on a sign and trade.
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- Posted on: Sun, 02/23/2014 - 4:14am #873966
  
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  Why would he sign and trade, to get more money? If he got paid he would have to go to a bad team because the contenders are not interested and are unable to afford him unless he is making the MLE at most; also if he went to a bad team he wouldn’t need to sign and trade with Philly, just sign with the bad team. In business you need leverage and the Sixers are fresh out when it comes to dealing with Granger, he can sit and get paid, goof off/jack shots and get paid, and take a buyout and get paid to play somewhere else (this would be the best choice for philly as they could save money on the buyout agreement rather than paying the full salary.)
  Doing a sign and trade (ala Lebron from the Cavs) is a move to get the bird rights, extra year on a contract, and yearly salary increase (8% compared to 10.5%) from the former team. Bird rights wouldn’t help Granger too much as nobody is going to go over the salary limit extensively to sign him (unless the use the mle which they could do anyways), Granger won’t get a deal for six years, and the 2.5% extra salary increase on a 5 million dollar contract (MLE-ish) would be about $100,000 pre-tax which isn’t significant enough to make Granger base a decision on a sign and trade.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 1:12pm #873949

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He can be pissed all he wants but he probably holds more value being kept until the end of the season and used as a sign and trade over the summer so he can net a draft pick which the Sixers enjoy collecting. A buyout does more for him than the team and they don’t owe him any favors. They need to maximize what value he has – its a business
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 2:45pm #873859

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Laker fans keep telling me that every player wants to play in L.A.

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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 2:45pm #873965

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Laker fans keep telling me that every player wants to play in L.A.

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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 4:05pm #873869

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I’ve been reading the CBA trying to work out what Grainger and Glen Davis are entitled to via buyouts once they clear waivers and how it counts capwise. Frankly I’m none the wiser, Forte IV seems to be halfway there, but minimum salary is involved and this is off set against the player’s new salary and their old etc.
It’s cerainly not as simple as say Grainger being due lets say $6 million of his $14 million salary and the 76ers say to him we’ll buy you out for $5 million. Grainger takes his money and signs for a contender and the 76ers save $1 million.
Anyway as regards Grainger’s destination I agree that the Clippers, Spurs are good fits for him. But the Thunder to me looks the perfect fit, he can play behind KD helping him manage his minutes and gives options at 2 and 4 to either slide there or let others play there when he is on court. Gives them a bench scoring option which they may lack slightly compared to other contenders, vital bench experience and a good attitude.

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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 4:05pm #873975

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I’ve been reading the CBA trying to work out what Grainger and Glen Davis are entitled to via buyouts once they clear waivers and how it counts capwise. Frankly I’m none the wiser, Forte IV seems to be halfway there, but minimum salary is involved and this is off set against the player’s new salary and their old etc.
It’s cerainly not as simple as say Grainger being due lets say $6 million of his $14 million salary and the 76ers say to him we’ll buy you out for $5 million. Grainger takes his money and signs for a contender and the 76ers save $1 million.
Anyway as regards Grainger’s destination I agree that the Clippers, Spurs are good fits for him. But the Thunder to me looks the perfect fit, he can play behind KD helping him manage his minutes and gives options at 2 and 4 to either slide there or let others play there when he is on court. Gives them a bench scoring option which they may lack slightly compared to other contenders, vital bench experience and a good attitude.

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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 10:27pm #874050

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As a Suns fan I would love to see the Suns go through the trade deadline without giving up their draft assets only to sign a player of Granger’s caliber for the playoffs. I think he would be a great addition to their rotation and although he has played in a slow-paced system his entire career in Indiana, I think he could benefit due to opportunity that would be presented in Phoenix’s offense.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 10:27pm #873942

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As a Suns fan I would love to see the Suns go through the trade deadline without giving up their draft assets only to sign a player of Granger’s caliber for the playoffs. I think he would be a great addition to their rotation and although he has played in a slow-paced system his entire career in Indiana, I think he could benefit due to opportunity that would be presented in Phoenix’s offense.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 10:39pm #874056

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Biased being an LAC fan but I really hope they sign him. Moving Jamison and Mullens gives enough room to sign Granger and I think the Clips need a player like him to really contend for a title. Just a pipe dream at the moment but I believe he will fill the void that both Barnes and Dudley haven’t been able to fill.
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Posted on: Sat, 02/22/2014 - 10:39pm #873948

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Biased being an LAC fan but I really hope they sign him. Moving Jamison and Mullens gives enough room to sign Granger and I think the Clips need a player like him to really contend for a title. Just a pipe dream at the moment but I believe he will fill the void that both Barnes and Dudley haven’t been able to fill.
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Posted on: Mon, 02/24/2014 - 2:23am #874244

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I’d really love to see Granger in a Thunder uniform. He’s been one of my favorite players to watch for years now and I love his versatility and capability to play three positions. My only concern with the Thunder is the lack of depth that most other contenders have. Reggie Jackson is pretty good and Lamb has his moments, but after that it drops off really quick.
Granger still has starting potential and it’s a shame injuries have hampered him so much. He can provide much needed scoring for the Thunder bench and perhaps even the occasional spot start (though unlikely since Brooks is hard-headed about his starting lineup).
I’m not too confident this will happen though, Presti is great when it comes to drafting but his trades/signings are very mediocre, I feel like he passes up a lot of good opportunities.
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Posted on: Mon, 02/24/2014 - 2:23am #874135

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I’d really love to see Granger in a Thunder uniform. He’s been one of my favorite players to watch for years now and I love his versatility and capability to play three positions. My only concern with the Thunder is the lack of depth that most other contenders have. Reggie Jackson is pretty good and Lamb has his moments, but after that it drops off really quick.
Granger still has starting potential and it’s a shame injuries have hampered him so much. He can provide much needed scoring for the Thunder bench and perhaps even the occasional spot start (though unlikely since Brooks is hard-headed about his starting lineup).
I’m not too confident this will happen though, Presti is great when it comes to drafting but his trades/signings are very mediocre, I feel like he passes up a lot of good opportunities.
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