russell westbrook or drose
drose or john wall
a 23 year old shaq or dwight
michael jordan at 23 or lebron
carmelo or mike beasely
but by that, bloodyhell is a dumb question. Who cares if jordan at 23 was more athletic than lebron?
I will give you a neg on every thing you have ever posted.
dude, if you dont like the post, keep it moving. simple as that.
Rose, Wall, Shaq, Lebron, Melo
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D. Rose (speed, strength, vert all working together better. I mean come on, hes had shoulders like that since he was a freshman at Simeon.)
D. Rose again for the same reason.
Ill give it to Dwight by a slight margin. VEEEERRYY SLIGHT!
Lebron. This one is another slight margin imo. (he gets the edge because of his strength. although Mike still did some amazing things at 6'6 190, blocks, steals, dunks.... you know the story lol)
Melo, without question. I have to actually see Beasley run up AND down the floor before I consider him athletic lol
Universal when i read ur post i couldnt stop laughing AHHA
You know what? SCRATCH THAT! MJ had it. I just compared stats and Mike was doing some things that required some SERIOUS athleticism at 23.
Lerbon is the most athletic person i ever seen!
wow, im not sure why, but universal's post has me busting up over here, lmao. As for the questions:
rose or westbroook- russell
rose or wall-rose
shaq or dwight-dwight
jordan or lebron-lebron
melo or beasley-melo
westbrook- not the popular pick but the more i see him play the more i think he is a 6ft 3 version of lebron.
drose- i think they are close but i think rose is a better leaper
dwight- its tough but i think this is the case for most of todays players in that they are more athletic but not as fundamentally sound.
lebron- most imposing athlete in the history of the nba.
melo- because i think he is quicker and faster, leaping ability is close
Rose: Rose has more body control and is stronger. He's a better overall athlete than Westbrook.
Rose: Wall is fast, but similar to Rose vs Westbrook, Rose is just the better overall athlete.
Shaq: We'll never and I mean NEVER see another athlete like Shaq. Howard can jump higher (Shaq was no slouch) and run faster, but he doesn't have the strength and fluidity that Shaq had. Add in the fact Shaq was 7' 1" 325 lbs.
LeBron: IF LeBron weren't 6' 8" 250 lbs, I'd choose Jordan. However, LeBron's size combined with his freak athleticism is what makes him one of a kind.
Melo: Neither player is an elite athlete, but Melo is stronger, quicker and more explosive.
I think with Mj and Lebron at 23, we are looking at power vs finesse. At 23, I believe Mike was averaging in the 30s, getting about 2.5 steals, a block and highlight after highlight. He was finessing it into the basket. Lebron had similar stats and he was getting the ball in by powering it in. I went to the stats on this one. Plus i might be a taaaaaaaad biased, seeing as how Im from Chicago lol
I think I should just declare my verdict on MJ vs Lebron inconclusive on the grounds of bias opinion lol
yeah, but stats really only says so much when discussin athleticism. Shannon brown is a better athlete then brandon roy. You could argue jordan or lebron, but lebron just blows me away athletically as any wing i have ever seen play the game. His heads above the rim on some dunks and his first step is like he is shot out of a cannon.
Mike would rise up on LEGIT 7 footers at 23 himself. Doing so while getting banged up by some serious defense. Lebron has folks bouncing off of him lol. I think its way too close. Remember, we are talking about these 2 at 23, if im not mistaken.
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@englandismyhome, wtf are you talking about?
LeBron is such a special athlete. He's strong... 6' 8" 250... Long... He covers so much ground. And that left leg of his is unreal.
Jordan was a monster too though lol. He could explode off of one or two feet. He had a combination of grace and power. He had amazing hang time and just that ability to do amazing &$#%#&@! in the air. Jordan was a more creative athlete than LeBron. LeBron is powerful, but Jordan was that breathtaking type of athlete.
And when I look at the stats, Im looking at minutes and steals. Heres a new question: which is more impressive, getting 30+ points, 7+ rebs on the wing at 6'6 190 or getting 30+, 7+ rebs at 6'8 250?
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Jordan was the type of athlete that just did things that made you laugh to yourself and just smile... Put your hand on your forehead with your mouth open lol. You dream of doing what Jordan could do. He captured your imagination.
i dream of doing wade's dunk on varejao.
i know its hard to say jordan was not as good as anyone at anything. as great of an athlete as jordan was, lebron would be the most athletic player in any sport he played because of his speed and size and strength and jumping ability. think about 6 foot 8 255lbs in football, with 4.4 40 speed and a 44 inch vertical. basically a bigger version of calvin johnson, sick. or in baseball where rookie sensation jason heywerd of the braves stands 6 foot 6 250 with solid speed. lebron would be a taller faster heywerd.
and as chris rock said, as soon as they make a heated rink, lebron could take over hockey, lol.
@englandismyhome, yeeeeeeeaaaaaaa, i think you had me confused with someone who actually cared about points lol. but if thats what will bring joy to your little world, knock yourself out.
@indianabball, you got that right!
@trinajoe HA!!!! lovin the chris rock quote!
wtf... i gave u a positive, for being from europe, damn it the english have betrayed us again
russell westbrook or drose- Rose.
drose or john wall-Very very close, but I'll say Rose, by a hair.
a 23 year old shaq or dwight-Howard, but Shaq was an Amazing athlete.
michael jordan at 23 or lebron- LeBron, there should be no arguement here.
carmelo or mike beasely- Melo.
and just wanted to get this off my chest, watchin this sunday night football game and julius peppers is a hell of an athlete and a beast. lol.
chris rock is the funniest guy on the planet, but im surprised westbrook isnt getting more love. it looks like he gets shot out of a cannon on his dunks down the lane. he is like a mini lebron.
I'm sorry, but... Westbrook is NOT like a mini LeBron James.
i personaly think he's the fastest pg on the fast break. the guy goes from fast to hella-f*cking-ridiculous fast.
exactly, westbrook is an amazing athlete. hes fast, can jump, strong, and long.
tezo- u dont think if russell westbrook was 6 foot 8 he wouldnt look similar to lebron? i think it would be damn close.
Wade or Josh Smith-
Paul or Rondo
Dirk or Pau
Gay or Griffin
russell westbrook or drose- Westbrook probably has better pure speed, but Rose is better at every other dimension of athleticism.
drose or john wall- See above.
a 23 year old shaq or dwight- I'll say Howard. I'm too younger to give an opinion on a 23 year old Shaq, but Howard is as freakish as they come at his size.
michael jordan at 23 or lebron- Lebron. Lebron is probably the most athletic player to ever play basketball. Definitely the best I've ever seen.
carmelo or mike beasely- Carmelo. He's quicker and more explosive laterally and vertically. Beasley is more smooth, but he's not a better pure athlete.
No, I don't think Westbrook would look like LeBron if he were 6' 8" lol. LeBron isn't normal. You don't see too many players 6' 8" and carry 250-260 lbs like LeBron does. LeBron is a physical marvel. He's a once in a lifetime athlete.
Westbrook is an amazing athlete though... Super quick first step and he gets off of the floor quick...
Physically, Lebron is a bigger stronger faster Jordan with equal body control, a better left hand, and a worse right hand. Michael Jordans right hand was the Hand of God. If you aren grabbing his right wrist he will get the shot off, from some crazy angle, and it will go in. I've never seen anyone more dominant without having to use his left to shoot.
And Shaq at 23 was 3 inches taller, 40 pounds heavier, could get up and down the court just as well as Dwight, and had a 36 inch vert. Thats what, 2 inches less than Dwight? Shaq, Wilt and Lebron were/are true athletic monstrosities of the NBA.
As for the others, Rose for both, Carmelo, Wade over J-Smooth, Rondo over Paul, Pau slightly over Dirk, and Gay over Griffin.
1. Rose- size, strength, speed, and some of the best body control I've ever seen.
2. Rose- same reason.
3. Shaq- Until Dwight breaks a backboard, I gotta go with Shaq on this one. Dwight has a higher vertical, but that's about it.
4. LeBron- The most athletic person to ever play professional sports...period.
5. Melo- quickness & strength.
Westbrook or Rose- Rose. Good call on the guy who said body control.
Rose or Wall - Close we'll find out more after this year but going with Rose.
A 23 year old Shaq or Dwight Howard - I'll take Shaq did you guys actualy see him play at 23? He used to score 40pts on Ewing running all over the court on him can Dwight score that on anyone. Also Shaq was a decent shot blocker too. He led his team to the Finals and played Olajuwon better than David Robinson did that year.
Jordan at 23 or Lebron - Lebron becaz he was a 2 sport player in high school and many have said he would've been a dominant NFL player as well I know that was when he was younger. MJ was the better finisher, dunker more elusive but easier being at a much lower weight. I wouldn't say Lebron is the most athletic player to every play sports, your forgetting some sick boxers and Football players that are crazy athletic and closer to his size. You could say Lebron is the most athletic person to ever play sports for his size or play in the NBA. Some of what Lebron does isn't pure athleticism either passing, ball handling, post up which is rare for him, jump shots yeah he does take them.
The hand of God comment was just stupid.
Carmelo or Beasely- Melo.
Great call on Julius Peppers he's a freak athletic at what 280 for a defensive end and he's crazy agile. Also he's going up against guys that are well over 300 lbs. Lebron for the most part is going up against just SF's who are much smaller than him, the closest player physically at SF is Artest and hez no where near the same athlete.
Vernon Davis is a freak as well. He ran a 4.38, benched 225lbs 33 times, a vertical leap of 42", can bench press 480lbs and is 6'3 253.
Russell Westbrook or D.Rose - Rose
D.Rose or John Wall - Rose
a 23 year old Shaq or dwight - ima take shaq he was a beast
Michael Jordan at 23 or Lebron - we all know the answer to this one this would have been better if it was jordan or kobe or lebron and D howard
carmelo or mike beasely - people sleep on him but ima have to go with b.easy
I agree with Dolla.
Rose - Best combination of speed, leaping ability, and quickness with the ball in the league.
Shaq - In terms of leaping ability it's probably pretty close, but Shaq was much stronger.
Lebron - Probably the most athletic player in NBA history.
Beasley - Still a good prospect if he can keep his head on straight. It's close, but Melo isn't really an elite athlete.
Jordan all day (I made race a factor in my decision).
You're annoying, but that did make me laugh a little lol.
russell westbrook or drose - tie
drose or john wall - drose
a 23 year old shaq or dwight - shaq
michael jordan at 23 or lebron - tie
carmelo or mike beasely - melo