Didn't Carmelo and Beasley post nearly identical combine stats? Granted that Carmelo might have gotten somewhat stronger with age, I'll still give it to Beasley. He has him in Vert, strength, lane agility, and measurements.I mean Carmelo might be the better basketball player, but come on..
Predraft Measurements Michael Beasley
Height w/o Shoes
No Step Vert
3/4 Court Sprint
Predraft Measurements Carmelo Anthony
Height w/o Shoes
No Step Vert
3/4 Court Sprint
You have to think Carmelo has gotten more athletic since he was in college. I've never liked when people pull up combine results for guys who have been in the NBA for a long time, especially guys that are in or entering their prime. He's been training with pro strength and conditioning people for the past 7 years or so, and he's noticeably slimmer and quicker than he was at Syracuse. You have to believe he's gotten more athletic since he was in college.
I didn't mean to put LeBron as the best athlete to ever play pro sports, I meant pro basketball.
I know some football players(Vernon Davis, Julius Peppers, Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson) and Boxers(Roy Jones Jr. in his prime) are superior athletes and are right up there
So why the comparison/who's better argument at all? Is that comparison fair to Michael Beasley then who hasn't even hit his prime yet if you're going to bring the prime argument up? The only way the argument is fair is if you compare them both at the same points in their respective careers. Not one guy at his prime to another guy who hasn't even had the chance to shine in the NBA while living in Wade's shadow. That is like comparing a 26-27 year old D-Wade, in his prime, to Kobe Bryant who is past his athletic prime. Compare the D-Wade now to the Kobe Bryant at the same point respectively. Also, I'm sure Beasley's athleticism is still there, and it's not like he's going to digress that much over that much time. If anything, he should become more athletic when his body matures more. That is the bad thing about comparing two guys who are in two different points in their career, and that is also the other side of the story you failed to bring up.
You do realize that OJ Mayo tested out to be almost exactly the same athlete as Derrick Rose. You can't always go by combine numbers.
Combine results are practically useless in the NBA anyways
Derrick Rose-Stronger, just as fast, quick and can jump as high, but better overall
Derrick Rose-see above
Shaq-The man was a beast in his prime, he was like 300lbs 7'1 and could run the court even he's admitted if he had a better work ethic he could've been even better
LeBron-Yeah everyone already said how, unfortunately, this not even a contest
Carmelo-When watching both of them Carmelo seems like a superior athlete especially overall when looking at his strength but its closer than u think
Then why do the NBA waste so much money on having a combine? It must be somewhat useful if organizations and scouts use it as a tool. There are a lot of great athletes in the NFL and NBA, but just because their athleticism doesn't make them a great athlete in terms of basketball or just as good as another doesn't mean they aren't a good athlete in general, nonetheless... I'm sure there are a lot of players in the NFL and NBA that are more athletic than their pro-bowl, all-star/superstar peers, but it doesn't translate into the sport they are playing as well as others thus making them seem less athletic. Measurables don't equate into finding a good basketball/football player, but you can use measurables to find a good athlete. That's all I'm saying...
I agree to a certain extent. But It is clear from watching Rose and Mayo play, that Rose is far more athletic. He dunks on people regularly and is far more explosive. There combine speed numbers were nearly identical, but it is also clear that Rose is among the fastest players in the NBA, while Mayo struggles to get into the lane because of his average quickness. And yet, they tested out the same.
I agree, the only way to say who's more athletic at the same stage is to test them when they both are at the same stage.
Since they aren't at the same stage and you can't test it out, and since that wasn't the point of what I was talking abhout (my point was it's irrelevant to bring up combine stats for a guy who has been in the NBA for like 7 or 8 years and has gotten noticeably better in terms of conditioning), I still think Anthony is a better athlete than Beasley right now. Beasley doesn't have a single advantage over Anthony athletically that I can think of, except if count being more fluid in his movements.
Wow, this forum must have a bunch of younger people if you are saying Lebron was more athletic than a 23 year old Jordan. You guys need to go on youtube and see some highlights of Jordan flying through the air.
I voted Lebron because of what he is able to do at his size. Jordan was probably comparable in terms of leaping ability and speed, but Lebron is clearly bigger and stronger.