I can't see Beal going 2 overall, if you check recent draft history their hasn't never been a non big man or non college dominant college guard to go that high. Even in the top 5. Teams will take chances on non dominant bigs but on a undersized non dominant 2 guard that's too big of a risk.4 would be reasonable if you believe in his skill set, but at 2 I see slightly overrated written all over him
What are your thoughts?
Beal is a really good player. There isn't much of a different between #2 and #5 in this draft so if the guy you want looks like he will be gone at #3 then you have to take him at #2
Depends on who is drafting at 2. If it is the Bobcats - probably Robinson. Otherwise, Beal is completely in the running for 2 - maybe the favorite. Other than Davis, Beal may have the most potential as a star player (not including Drummond who is a complete wild card). I certainly don't see overrated here.
Rivers is better than Beal. I am still surprised he will go before Rivers.
Im still trying to figure out the love affair with Beal, he is not a trancedent talent, he is not Gordon, not a shooter like Allen..He does not have the skill set of Brandon Roy nor is he as athletic as a Dwayne Wade. What exactly makes him great? he is good at a number of things, maybe fair at a few others but i never watched him play and saw a superstar. I beleive Rivers ceiling is much higher
"I can't see Beal going 2 overall, if you check recent draft history their hasn't never been a non big man or non college dominant college guard to go that high. Even in the top 5."
He has only worked out for the top four. Whether or not he is a great value in that spot, his agent would be foolish to do that if he isn't incredibly confident in Beal going that high.
We will have to wait and see on Beal. Teams seem to be high on him and I doubt he goes lower than 3 at this point.
It doesn't matter what you think mouchy. I agree w/ your assessment of Beal, but it's clear teams have a lot of ineterest in him. I've heard team are looking to trade up for him.
I wonder if Beal will be agressive enough in the NBA. He just doesn't have that, "I'm going to kill you" mental approach, and though he's a fanastic shooter, I also don't see much of a, "I'm going to put nine 3-balls on you if you don't guard me, you piece of garbage" mean streak that the greatest shooters have.
Is that learnable? Or is that innate? Or if he's just solid, reliable, but never spectacular, is that deserving of the the No. 2 overall pick? Maybe? I honestly don't know, but if the team I follow ends up with either Beal or Rivers, I'll be content and I'll enjoy watching either player develop.
The on court demeanor or intensity can be manufactured but Beals talent and skillset is undeniable. I like Robinson energy and passion but if in the Bobcats i need the total package and that player is Clearly Harrison Barnes. Size, versatility, Scoring & High character.. If anyone has a sense if Jordans expectation level its Barnes
I think Beal will be the pick at 2 or trade down with Cleveland and pick Robinson at 4
To be honest I never even really considered Beal a Top 5 pick from watching him this year. Not until the scouts and GM's said how impressed they were with Beal after the season did I hear about him being a top 3 pick.
I don't think I'm alone here in that my opinion of Beal has been fed to me from pundits and articles and not actually seeing something special in him in watching him live.
I mean, aren't GM's supposed to know better evaluators of talent than us? If so many soundly agree on Beal than I think it'd be foolish not to think Beal has the potential to be a star.
Florida had Irving/Boykins so there was no chance for Beal impose his talent.. Austin Rivers and all his Iso ability didnt elevate Coach K's system to contender status