I don't know why, I'm starting to join his Josh Selby bandwagon. I'm starting to think Selby might be one of the top players in this draft. He's a legit 6-2/6-3 player who can put the ball on the deck, as well as play the shooting guard position. He shot 36 from 3 and could be a steal. I also feel that the Kansas system wasn't really a great fit for him. In fact, I said it from day one if he went to a school with more freedom from the guards, I think he might have been a top 10 pick. Imagine him in a system like Louisville where he would have been Pitino's lead guard.
He might have some character issues, but I think in a weak draft, he might be touching lotto status sooner then we think. I would love the Knicks to take him, but I'm beginning to feel he could go as high as 9 to Charlotte.
I think it's safe to say his play at Kansas was not a good reflection on his game but lottery might be a little to high for him.
I think he could have been a lotto pick if he actually tried, He was uninterested in college and plus the suspension and injury kind of hit him too. I also read somewhere too that his teammates didnt really like him that much and he was pretty much an outcast among the team. Whoever gets him, might get lucky and get the steal of the draft though if he works hard.
He wouldn't be a steal anymore if he went in the lottery.
Did any of you catch his brief combine interview? I think there's a reason he was an "outcast" among his teammates. In the combine format its a given that everyone is trying to put their best foot forward as it were. I have to say Selby's vocabulary and demeanor screamed uneducated. This is not to say he's a thug. He might be the nicest guy in the world and an otherwise excellent human being, but after watching that little clip its easy to see why he would rub some people the wrong way. After the interview was over and he said thanks, there was a wide angle shot of a wide eyed Selby starring down the interviewer while he gave his summary and passed it off to the booth.
Selby is in desperate need of a mentor to shadow him 24/7 through the first few years of his NBA career or he is going to get himself into trouble. He probably won't even be looking for it, but its the way he carries himself that will alarm people. Just imagine him celebrating at a club after a game. He's still a "kid" in the truest sense of the word.
"I'm beginning to feel he could go as high as 9 to Charlotte."
You need to post that in my Reaching for a "Star" thread
I'm one of the biggest Selby fans there are because he reminds me of another of my favs in Bayless. #9 is beyond reaching, I feel as though he will be very good because he is back to HS shape, but if he were to be put in an Avery Bradley situation to go to a team like that, we would have to wait on him to flourish. I'm hoping he does well in all his agility test & predicting a 37-38 inch vert.
I feel like I've seen this before.
Bayless is a combo guard off the bench. If Selby is like that then he needs to go to a team that needs instant offense off the bench. Is he 6'3? Does he lack point guard skills? ... probably a tweener. Could be effective as a sixth man like OJ Mayo.
Selby worked out with the shooting guards both days in Chicago, while not being particularly long. I think he is a combo guard, who doesn't have the tools to play NBA point, and working out with the SG's this weekend kinda just nailed that point into my head even more.
Josh Selby I don't think goes round 1 because of character issues. He comes off as a selfish player who cares more about himself than the team. Which is something GMs with picks in the first round will not take. I have said over and over that Josh Selby is this year's Lance Stephenson great in high school disappointment in College. Lance played even better than Selby in College, and still went Round 2. I expect the same for Selby.
"I have said over and over that Josh Selby is this year's Lance Stephenson great in high school disappointment in College. Lance played even better than Selby in College, and still went Round 2. I expect the same for Selby."
What character concerns! I'm tired of hearing this. Dude has not been in any trouble from HS throughout college. He does not make headlines at all for anything negative. Everyone is just going off speculation, because of how he sounds during an interview. Cam Newton had the most concerns out of EVERY NFL prospect & still went #1. So what is the point of keep addressing this?
I heard Phoenix likes him,they think he can become another Barbosa 6th man type..Word if they've given him a guarantee....His folks are talking about Shutting him Down...
"His folks are talking about Shutting him Down..."
Do you have a link to this story & are they shutting him down from interviews/visits?
I see Willie Warren 2.0 in Josh Selby. I'm not too impressed with him, and I definitely don't think he'll be a short term contributor to a team. He's raw on top of acting like he's a great prospect. 6'3 SG who like to score can be found fairly easily nowadays.
Both are combo guards. I think Selby is a bit more athletic than Nolan, but Nolan is a high character guy and improved his game cosiderabily last season, while Selby wasnt much of a factor.
I would take Nolan in a heartbeat before even considering Selby, because Nolan ability to run the point is much better than Selby.
The thing I don't dislike somewhat about Selby is how he always talks about wanting ppl to forget the year he had, and never makes any mention of the team's success. No mention of the conference title, tourney title, and making it to the elite 8. I never heard him say that he was upset they didn't win a championship or make it to the final 4. It's as if since he didn't play lights out like many expected, the season and year was a complete failure. Imagine in an NBA setting when he's on a team, and as oppose to playing limited minutes like he did this past season, he racks up a bunch of DNP's-CD like an Avery Bradley. How will he react then? Don't know him personally, but as others have mentioned, its not hard to see why some teammates may have disliked him, since he comes off as a real "me" player. I wish everyone success, and hope he's able to carve out a nice little niche in the league, but there are definitely some concerns about him moving forward.
Josh Selby lacks basketball 5 on 5 officially ruled basketball skills. Hes probally the one of the best players n this draft going one on one, doing workouts, in athletisism, in shooting 3's, dunking, etc. He just lacks the fundimentals to put together the package. Selecting a player like that is like buying a brand new saailboat with no sail. I dont see why someone would take him ahead of Smith, or Morris let alone in the lottery.
Because talent wise, being able to get his own shot and athleticism he's a lottery pick.
I watched Monta Ellis go in the second round and he may have been the 3rd or 4th best player in the draft.
The talents that Selby has can not be taught. You can teach him how to play the game the right way as long as he's willing to learn. Far as Bayless. When given the opportunity he out plays a lot of guards. He completely destroyed Drew Holliday. It wasn't even funny. When he got his chance at the end of the year he was doing his thing and they were winning. It's also about money. They are paying that garbage PG ahead of him. Also don't forget it's Toronto. The Blazers didn't want a shoot first PG with Roy. They could have used Bayless now that he's going to be hurt the rest of his career.
It just takes a team willing to turn the team over to a player with his talent. If JJ B can get burn in this league you can't tell me that Selby can't play.
Far as Stevenson. He can play in this league. He's in Indiana. O'Brein would'nt play any young guys. He had his lottery pick on the bench. That was one of the reason's he got fired. Stevenson will get his chance.
I agree with j-nixon... I can't see him having a very good nba career....
He's a can't miss athlete and can score, which is why he'll have a decent NBA career but not great. I think he just lacks the intangibles to be a great NBA player, but I can see him having a decent career coming off the bench for a scoring/energy spark, kind of like a Shannon Brown type career. He seems like a one track guy who doesn't have a great feel for the game...After watching him at Kansas he made some of the dumbest basketball decisions, taking bad shots, forcing shots in bad positions, turning the ball over, not passing the the open teammate...but can also make some highlight reel plays so he might be worth the gamble for a team like Chicago.
I love it. I hope the scouts think this exact same way and he can manage to fall to LAL at 41. I thought the same thing when LAL chose Ronny Turiaf instead of Monta in 05 and Wafer over Blatche the same year in the second. The kid can ball, and with a Kobe Bryant mentoring him, could potentially be Monta Ellis type. Reminds me a lot of Ben Gordon though. Which beside of a Kobe,Gasol and co. would be a beautiful addition. Brown can't break down a D and won't play within himself. Otherwise LAL would have their guy already.