[r377Participant]

Just looking at their recruiting class.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1472342-dakari-johnson-commits-does-kentucky-now-have-the-best-recruiting-class-ever

The Harrison twins, James Young, Dakari Johnson, Marcus Lee, Towns

[Lebron’s HairlineParticipant]

My god is everyone a wildcats fan now? Please tell me your not one(fingers crossed).

[JordanC20Participant]

If Poythress and WCS stay I say they go undefeated.

[Lebron’s HairlineParticipant]

They won’t, Cal will force them to leave by bringing in players that play their position. He does it every year.

[Scotty5000Participant]

They won’t, Cal will force them to leave by bringing in players that play their position. He does it every year.

Please Coach Cal, we dont wanna go to the L and make Millions!! Please let us stay, we want to go to class and get yelled out and practice 20 hours a week! Please Coach dont make us go!

And you will eat your words about chemistry in a few weeks..

[mawi7056Participant]

Don’t think he forces them out. Don’t get me wrong, Cal is a snake when it comes to recruiting but he wants his players to succeed (to benefit himself as well). He gets accurate advice on where his players will be drafted, and if it’s in the first round, he encourages them to take the money. His reputation as a pro producer allows him to encourage players to leave for their own benefit, and in turn he wins as well because he brings in the best recruiting class year after year.

[Willo15Participant]

I’m not sure why Cal is a snake? Yes, he has got two schools on probation during his stay there. But you can’t blame him you have to blame the schools also. Memphis knew what they were getting when they hired him and so did Kentucky. There is not a coach in College that’s recruiting by the books anyways. Regardless, if it’s a minor violation or a big one. It’s still a violation. Look at Oregon under Chip Kelly(Under investigation), USC under Carroll and Kiffin (Big Violations), Izzo at Michigan State had minor violations, Coach K has had violations, Roy Williams (Had players taking classes that never existed) etc.Cal has just found a loop whole and he is exploiting it. If the players had to stay two or three years you don’t think they would still go play for Cal? Be serious! His players are treated like Rock stars because they are Elite and that good and who wouldn’t want to watch them play. The guy knows how to recruit and knows what the kids in this day and age want. Point blank. I am from Lexington, Ky and I’m not just a fan of Kentucky, but a fan of sports. When North Carolina was stock piling talent under Dean Smith, Duke under Coach K and Roy Williams at Kansas and North Carolina everything was fine. But times have changed and every kid in this ERA wants a quick GET RICH SCHEME and you see what it is. Play one year of college ball especially if you’re Elite status and get rich, help out your family and go pro. If you were one of these Elite players why wouldn’t you want to do the same? You have Drake, Jay-Z, Magic Johnson, Lebron, and other stars coming to watch you play. Before Coach Cal got here I could count how many Rappers and stars we had in Lexington alone, since becoming the Coach we have had Whale, Rick Ross, Drake Machine Gunn Kelly, Meek Mills, Wocka Flocka and the list goes on. Coach Cal puts himself in those kid’s shoes and thinks like them. What do most kids in this Era listen to? Rap. What do they want to be? Rich. What shoes do they like to wear? Jordan’s and Nike. Also, in the off season you have guys like KD, Durant, Lebron, etc coming and playing against your players to make them better and workout and use the facilities. I am not being bias here. It’s the truth.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

This is way too much talent in one college team.

[Lebron’s HairlineParticipant]

Still need chemistry though, this years team on paper is really good also but they just can’t put it together.

[cleigh212001Participant]

I don’t think anyone Is forced out. It’s how cal does and if you are a recruit then you know that he is going to recruit someone next year. Half the people that are being “forced out” did the same thing to someone else so there is no way that they should think that he is not going to recruit a player at the same position.

[r377Participant]

I am not a Kentucky / UNC / Duke fan, nor am I a Heat, Lakers, Yankees, Patriots, Manchester United fan.

Quite simply, if you want to know about future NBA players you look at Kentucky’s recruiting class….

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

As long as you stay objective and aren’t too bias other then for your home team, it’s all good.

[samosasParticipant]

It’s easy to see why people hate on Calipari. You take an incident in 1995 where Marcus Camby took money from an agent and again in 2008 where Derrick Rose didn’t take an SAT. Derrick Rose was an MVP his third year in the league and that means as a college basketball coach you get to coach one of the best players in the world. That’s a risk I’d be willing to take at my job every 13 years. UNC gets sham classes (that basketball players took, not a lot, but they did), Coach K has a player swear under oath in court that he took money and the NCAA says there wasn’t enough evidence to convict, Jim Boehim has had seasons vacated as Syracuse. Every coach out there would do the same thing if they had the opportunity. Why would you not want the best possible players on your team?

Let’s say you take four years to develop a team, and with luck you make it to the final four. If my memory serves me correctly it’s roughly a 50% chance of winning the title for a school once you get to the final four (excluding schools that have been there less than five times). So let’s say it takes you eight years to get a title. Everyone is happy because you have unathletic white guys that ‘do it the right way’. That’s bullshit. If you’re REALLY trying to do your job the best that you can you give yourself a chance to win every single year.

In Calipari’s four years at UK he’s got an elite eight, two final fours and a title and by the looks of it has a hell of a chance to get another title next year. People who say he exploits the players don’t realize that it’s the system that’s been exploiting the players all along and people have finally started to get wise and are paying their dues for a year in college before they make millions of dollars. You have zero rights as an NCAA athlete. You can’t eat dinner with who you want, you have to spend loads of extra time with tutors because you practice so much.

And you know what you get? A college education. Well.. by god that’s a right good deal. Here the NCAA makes five billion dollars a year, Marc Emmert makes millions per year and they try to tell you a program is dirty if a player gets a free lunch from a friend. If you play basketball or football at a top flight D1 school you’re footing the bill for all the other sports on campus to exist and all you do it make a company billions. Call me crazy but I wouldn’t bust my ass for four years so I could take a few classes while fat cats rake in millions.

[r377Participant]

nice vid never_ever. BBall training has really come along way since i was a kid….

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

My bad, I posted that in this thread because didn’t want to start another thread and it kinda went with the future you were talking about. It reminded me of a video of Kevin Durant training while he was still a kid I watched back then.

[ph90702]

They’re still not winning a championship. You’re not going to win when your rotation is essentially freshmen.

[Sewok15Participant]

Did you not watch his team last year dominate their way to the title with all freshmen and sophomores outside of Miller last season? This group coming in is possibly more talented than that group. The question is will they play together like that team did and will they be able to defend at an elite level. I am not a Kentucky fan at all but I do like the way Cal has used the stupid NBA’s one and done system against them to create these young super squads. It makes for entertaining hoops especially come March.

[DolanCareParticipant]

How is it exciting to see one team railroad everyone they play? It’s actually kinda boring imo

[Sewok15Participant]

I like when there is a clear cut front runner going into the tournament. It makes in interesting to see if someone can upset them. It would make it very interesting if the team was unbeaten going into the tournament which will not be out of reach for this group of players.

My preference is to watch as much of these good young players as I can so it makes it a lot easier to do so when 5 of them team up on one squad. 5 guys at Kentucky are easier to keep track of than 1 guy at Florida, 1 at Marquette, 1 at MSU, 1 at USC and 1 at Maryland…you know what I mean?

[Lebron’s HairlineParticipant]

Your not a true fan if you want one team to just come in and steamroll everybody; I missed the old days of college basketballs where each team had one or two stars not 4 or 5, made march madness much more insane.

[Ghost01Participant]

But….

In a year where two of the best recruits we have seen in awhile are coming out (Parker and Wiggins) he more than likely isn’t getting either? When you consider the experienced teams that are in college basketball, and that these two guys are going to be lurking elsewhere, I just don’t see Kentucky as a lock. Kentucky has 4 big time freshman right now, and I am not close to arguing they are as good as the ones for next year, but they are unranked. Noel had more hype than Darkari Johnson or any big man they will bring in next year. I like the Harrison twins, alot…but its not like the PG is Derrick Rose or John Wall. I think they will be a top 5 team next year. Undefeated? No doubt favorites? C’mon.

[Sewok15Participant]

Parker and Duke will be tough for sure but if Wiggins goes to FSU I don’t think he makes them the team to beat in the ACC let alone the nation…and I am a big Wiggins believer.

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