im kinda wondering if wiggins will actually be the first pick in 14. its gonna be such a strong class that I can see him having some competition from parker or randle. I understand wiggins has the most potential and athleticism, but does he have the best offensive skill set? I think if he struggles of does not play like he is trying to prove he is definatly the first pick, he might be surpassed by randle or parker, or even possibly Andrew Harrison depending on who has the pick. thoughts everyone?
It would take a lot for a team to not take Wiggins #1. I think he has a great offensive skill set, good handle, superior athleticism, has a clean looking jump shot, can finish in traffic and off the dribble. The kid is going to jump off the screen in college, hopefully next year's college season will be significantly better with this great incoming freshman class.
Is the Pope Catholic?
I doubt it would happen...but if it does,why isnt anyone talking about the sophomores as possible number ones?For example,if Marcus Smart improves his shooting and decision making as much as people seemed to think he could next year in the nba,and if a PG starving team gets the pick, he definately could go number 1 in my opinion.Many players could improve a loo t next year,who saw Otto Porter as a top 3 at the beginning of the season?Also with the way so many potential loto picks are deciding to skip this weak draft,I wouldnt be surprise if a number of those super hyped freshmen decide to skip next year,Parker being my guess for one.
But back to your question,lots can happen in a year,but for now Wiggins is the favorite.
I think his stock can only go down not being able to declare this year and with a strong class next year. That being said, I think the chance of him being selected number 1 next year is at least 95%. Randle and Parker could push for it but even if Wiggins has an average year compared to those two, he will just flash that athleticism in games and in the combine and will be taken 1.
Basically the same situation there was with anthony davis, he is just a superior prospect and it would be very surprising if he didnt go number 1. I think Parker and randle are closer to him than anyone was to anthony davis but barring a terrible year he will be taken number 1.
the one thing than nearly guarantees him 1st selection is that unlike guys like Barnes Mayo in the past, Andrew even if he comes from sure thing franchise player to an 'potential great scorer but raw and not that good yet' the potential would still be SCARY and you can draft him looking for P.George/Kawhi Leonard at WORST case scenario, because you already can see he is going to be an elite defender, he already holds his own against 30-40 heavier pounds kids and he looks to be an elite rebounder at the position too, and his unselfishness and passing are so underrated just because people compares him to LeBron he is no LeBron especially in those aspects but he is pretty good on his own
There is no Lebron James in next years draft. But what happens is these "talent evaluators" repeat something over and over again to the point where they believe it even if their eyes tell them they are wrong. Point A) Nerlens Noel is about to be the #1 pick in the draft. Why? Because they have been repeating this song and dance for years that he is the best player in his class. If people are truthful nothing Noel did on the court this year said "he's the best" but because it has been repeated he will be treated as such.
And last year about this time I read about Shabazz and how ridiculous he was. I watched him all year and I was confused at what was said and what was on the television. A left handed player who can't dribble right. A 6'5 guard who plays more like a 3. And a guy who was reluctant to share the ball. He was extremely limited but did do all he could to score. Again, these guys grow into media legends because of social media and hoop mixtapes.
Now I will tell you; Wiggins has athleticism that you don't see. He glides while running by everyone in the open court. He jumps over the rim seemingly without putting full effort into his jump. His explosion and first step are amazing. But I don't see a definitely skill set.
So I will predict; that even if Jabari Parker out performs him this year (not saying it will happen but if....) then I guarantee you Wiggins will still be drafted higher because of the "upside" word.
His athleticism is so amazing that scouts are afraid to pass on a kid like this because if the skill comes he will be ridiculous.
With that said there is a possibility that Parker or Randle or Marcus Smart or another player could out perform Wiggins.
But all Wiggins has to do this year is not look completely lost and show spurts of domination and he will be drafted.
Since the 2006 HS class, there has only been two players ranked the head of his class to go #1 overall in the draft and that's Greg Oden & Anthony Davis.
...is that once talent evaluators have made up their mind on a prospect something tragic has to happen for them not to go high in the draft.
This is the reason why the longer you stay in college the lower players often go if that player was ranked really high coming out of high school.
See Harrison Barnes who lost money. McAdoo has lost money. Would have been a top 5 pick after his frosh year. But the more scouts see these guys the more they see them without the fanfare of high school hype.
if Shabazz Muhammad went back to school he would fall to number 15 in the draft or around there. But if you visited nbadraft.net last year I read posters talking about Muhammad in a very different light than what they do today.
Now Wiggins has amazing gifts. But I have not been impressed with his skill level or feel for the game in the small sample size that I have seen. And I refuse to repeat something that others have said.
But the great thing is he is a young man and there is nothing more awesome than seeing young people improve in life.
But for arguments sake I believe that Jabari Parker is a better "basketball player" than Wiggins right now.
What about John wall ? I remember him being either 1 or 2 in his HS class and he went 1 in the draft as well. And to be honest being Canadian I almost have to be a wiggins fan. But some of the times I have seen him he hasn't had a great feel for the game and I feel that sometimes scouts overrate his skill set but he amazing athleticism kinda hides that sometimes. While he does have a decent skill set rite now I would say Parker is ahead of him IMO by quite a bit. But with wiggins elite athleticism and his reall good work ethic anything is possible for him
Derrick Favors was #1
Depends on what site you use.
Rivals had Wall #1 and Favors #3 (Cousins #2).
Although I think Noel did show numerous valuable skills.
There could easily be a new media darling to emerge. He'd have to be a beast tho. Itd probs have to be a big or a flat out dominant Pg(Smart) because its just too easy to pencil him in as the best wing prospect
Wiggins is at a point where he cant get much more highly regarded so you will start to hear more crituique about what he cant do etc. However I think he should be fine. Really Kentucky might be the best place for him to keep that status as much as Id hate to watch it.
I don't think it's possible Andrew Wiggins falls any lower than #2, and even that will likely not happen. The rare physical gifts coupled with limitless upside will have him at the top of the mock they whole way. Exceptional play is just icing on the cake.
once players are seen through the lens of realism then the hype dies down. I remember hearing about Noel and then I watched him as he was unable to perform simple post moves. One of my favorite things to do is go back and review the "high school" rankings and then see where those players are today.
These rankings are in many cases political and based upon whoever is the hot name.
Example: Aaron Gordon was placed ahead of Jabari Parker by a recruiting site after the McDonald's All American game.
Is there any sane person on earth who believes today Gordon is better?
I use my own eyes and so that's why i don't buy the "there is no way Wiggins can't go #1" stuff.
I will watch him next year and the game and his performance will tell me what I need to know. Not some Ballislife high light tapes which if many of us are honest; this is where we see most of these players.
Even if some other guys has a better year unless he tanks no chance. Look at all star games and summit Wiggins never gets it out 2nd gear yet he still lead in scoring for his team in mcds, tied for lead in jbc, and in the summit he put 17, 9 and 4. His upside is up there with any of the greats you can name from the wing whether it be Kobe, Lebron, Jordan. Now he may not be them but if he is no GM is gonna wanna be the guy who passed on him if he does. As good as other guys are no one matches his potentially.
Ever since his freshmen year in high school, Wiggins has been talked up as being the top recruit since LeBron. I think we can all agree that Wiggins likely won't reach LeBron's level, but you don't simply turn Wiggins down as a GM with the #1 overall pick. He has great skills and has the most upside. If a GM doesn't pick Wiggins #1 and he turns out to be an yearly all star, Olympian, and potential HOF talent (way to early to talk HOF I realize but just for scenarios sake I bring it up) than you're likely to get fired, especially if the player you picked #1 doesn't pan out as expected.
Recently I said McLemore had a 75% chance of getting picked #1 in this draft. I would say that Wiggins has about a 90% chance for next years draft and that's while he's still in HS.
I think it is *possible* that he doesn't go number 1. Since this class is so good, if he slips up at all or isn't quite as good as people expect him to be, someone likely will be that good and will take his spot as the number 1 pick. He is the odds on favorite for sure, but its not a done deal.
I thought iWiggins was a LOCK at number 1, I now think Jabari has a chance of going number 1, over him.
randle could not go number 1. I really believe he has the best offensive skill set and attack mentality, he is an absolute monster out there. he may need work defensivly, but so do most guys coming out of high school. he is my favorite player in this class easily. he dribbles so well for a player his size, he can finish with either hand, and he has a great inside outside game. he may not have the eye popping stats this year coming up because of all the other talented players, but if he had went to another school with not as many star recruits, I really think you would see Michael beasely type stats from him.
I think Wiggins is the best Hs prospect since Lebron. That doesn't mean he has to be Lebron. I also think without Wiggins, Parker would be the best HS prospect since Lebron. I think all 3 of these guys would go 1 this year of they could and they all weren't going in. Noel was the number 1 prospect out of HS for his class. Everyone knew he didn't have much scoring ability in terms of getting his own. These 3 guys coming out are rare and that is the only reason Wiggins isn't a "lock." Like I said it is like 95% chance he will be one but that speaks more to the talent of Parker and Randle than it does as a detriment to Wiggins. Wiggins is still raw outside of 18 feet but this is a guy that can get 12ppg a game right now off energy and athleticism. Look at Derrick Rose, 23ppg game and had no better a shot than Wiggins at the same stage and it could've been worse. I think there is no way these guys don't see 8+ all star games each. They are all ultra talented.