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  • #45871
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    IvoL
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    Wilt Chamberlain played 14 seasons (1959–1973) in the nba, he was 7’1 275 nba listed, some sources say that he was actually 7’0 but i don’t know i will say 7’1,

    1959–1965 Philadelphia / San Francisco Warriors, 1965–1968 Philadelphia 76ers and 1968–1973 Los Angeles Lakers

    Career PPG: 30.1 Career RPG: 22.9 Career APG: 4.4

    Seven scoring titles, 11 rebounding titles, Eight win-share titles

    Only center in NBA history to lead the league in assists (702 in 1967-68), 2 things the nba in the 50, 60 and 70 had lower fg% and assist averages

    Averaged 50.4 PPG in 1961-62

    Averaged 48.5 MPG in 1961-62- faster pace and more physical why couldn’t he play in todays game 48mins if in todays game you have a lower pace and more freedom to attack the basket

    Four-time MVP, Two-time NBA All-Defensive First Team, Never fouled out in his career

    Only player in NBA history to record a 100-point game (Darrall Imhoff was the starting center for the New York Knicks, and played for 20 minutes in the game because of foul trouble, Chamberlain scored on him 58pts that day was the day Wilt Chamberlain scored an NBA personal scoring record of 100 points. the rest of his points was against Cleveland Buckner a 6’9 210 lb F/C)

    i really respect him and the way he helped improved the game by dominating the league, they changed the rules because of him the pace of the game was much faster, so he got more FG attempts than an NBA player would today, and the game was more physical than the 80’s, 90’s and even in todays game, let me say he was ahead of his time physically and skill wise, he could jump, run, had strenght and had an incredible stamina. Skill wise he could use a fadeaway jumpshot, use a hook shot, had a nice finger roll , the shot was pioneered by him he was extremely good using the glass, i’m not saying he would dominate today’s game but he would be definitely that good, Given the 50-year improvement in genetics, height, advanced training, and modern medicine. but that’s not the question, the question is did he really played against weaker opponents?
    let’s see this is how many seasons he played against these guys unitl he retire in 1973:

    Chuck Share, 6’11 235 lb, 1959 and 1960
    Clyde lovellette, 6’10 234 lb, 1959 to 1964
    Walter Dukes, 7’0 220 lb, 1959 to 1963
    Ray Felix, 6’11 220 lb, 1959 to 1962
    Phil Jordon, 6’10 205 lb, 1959 to 1963
    Darrall Imhoff, 6’10 220 lb, 1960 to 1972
    Walt Bellamy, 6’11 225 lb, 1961 to 1973
    Bevo Nordmann, 6’10 225 lb, 1961 to 1964
    LeRoy Ellis, 6’10 210 lb, 1962 to 1973
    Gene Wiley, 6’10 210 lb, 1962 to 1966
    Reggie Harding, 7’0 249 lb, 1963 to 1967
    Nate Thurmond, 6’11 225 lb, 1965 to 1973 (he actually played with Wilt 2 years)
    Mel Counts, 7’0 230 lb, 1964 to 1967 then 1970 to 1973 (played with wilt 3 years)
    Hank Finkel, 7’0 240 lb, 1966 to 1973
    Jim Fox, 6’10 230 lb, 1967 to 1973
    Clyde Lee, 6’10 205 lb, 1966 to 1973
    Walt Wesley, 6’11 220 lb, 1966 to 1973
    Henry Akin, 6’10 225 lb, 1966 to 1968
    Tom Boerwinkle, 7’0 265 lb, 1968 to 1973
    Otto Moore, 6’11 205 lb, 1968 to 1973
    Dick Cunningham, 6’10 245 lb, 1968 to 1973
    Dave Newmark, 7’0 240 lb, 1968 to 1970
    Rich Niemann, 7’0 245 lb, 1968 to 1970
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, 7’2 225 lb, 1969 to 1973
    Neal Walk, 6’10 220 lb, 1969 to 1973
    Bob Christian, 6’10 255 lb, 1970 to 1973
    Bob Lanier, 6’11 250 lb, 1970 to 1973
    Sam Lacey, 6’10 235 lb, 1970 to 1973
    George E. Johnson, 6’11 245 lb, 1970 to 1973
    Paul Ruffner, 6’10 225 lb, 1970 to 1973
    Dennis Awtrey, 6’10 235 lb, 1970 to 1973
    Elmore Smith, 7’0 250 lb, 1971 to 1973
    LaRue Martin, 6’11 208 lb, 1972 to 1973
    Tom Riker, 6’10 225 lb, 1972 to 1973
    John Gianelli, 6’10 220 lb, 1972 to 1973
    Mike Ratliff, 6’10 230 lb, 1972 to 1973

    i’m not trying to justify nothing i think we should actually thank guys like Mikan, Chamberlain, Cousy, Russell, Elgin Baylor, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Pistol Pete, Dr.J, MJ, Bird, Magic, McHale, Hakeem they revolutionized the game, the rules have changed and if we love Basketball and the way the game is played today it’s because of them, the new generation actually learned and was inspired by them, i don’t compare players or Eras i just respect every player that was the best in each era, some we already know others we doubt, but in todays game who would dominate it’s really a curiosity.

    enjoy brothers

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  • #740780
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    BenchWarmer
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    Another way to look at it, albeit not completely accurate is Wilt did it against Kareem, Kareem did it against Hakeem and Hakeem did it against Shaq.
    I will do head to head comparisons in playoffs.

    Wilt vs Kareem:
    Met up in 70-71 western conference finals:
    Wilt (34): 22.0 ppg, 18.8 rpg, 2.0 apg on 48.9 %FG
    Kareem (23): 25.0 ppg, 17.4 rpg, 4.2 apg on 48.1 %FG
    Kareem wins series
    And again in 71-72 confernce finals:
    Wilt (35):10.8 ppg, 18.8 rpg, 3.3 apg, 6 bpg* on 45.2 %FG
    Kareem (24): 33.7 ppg, 17.5 rpg, 4.8 apg, 5 bpg* on 45.7 %FG
    Wilt wins series
    *-not officially recognized

    Kareem vs Hakeem:
    Met up in 85-86 conference finals
    Kareem (39): 27 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 3.4 apg, 2.4 bpg on 49.7%
    Hakeem (23): 31.0 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 2.0 apg, 2.2 spg, 4.0 bpg on 52%
    Hakeem wins

    Hakeem vs Shaq:
    Met in 94-95 finals
    Hakeem (32): 32.8 ppg, 11.5 rpg, 5.5 apg, 2.0 bpg on 48.3%
    Shaq (22): 28 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 6.3 apg, 2.5 bpg on 59.5%
    Hakeem wins
    This is mostly food for thought

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  • #740798
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    FastAndFurious
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    Underated the dude averaged 50 and 25 a game lol and people still have the nerve to say he aint play against nobody or he’s not that good!

    His first year in the League he AVERAGED 37 and 27 boards lol

    The competition may not have been as strong but seriously his stats are nothing to overlook, he put up some serious numbers.

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  • #740810
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    IvoL
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    FastAndFurious i agree with you but it’s a myth that the guy played against midgets, and i was just trying to show that, and if he was good because of height why “giants” of the game such as George Muresan (7’7″), Shawn Bradley (7’5″), Manute Bol (7’6″), Chuck Nevitt (7’5″), Randy Breuer (7’3″), and even Mark Eaton (7’3″) were never dominating scorers. The simple fact is Wilt Chamberlain was great because he was great. He was an incredible specimen of height, strength, agility, and leaping ability. He could leap higher than many can imagine today, and was stronger than most would ever believe. now if we put him in the modern era wouldn’t he be a good player?

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