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Wolves and Blazers getting personal

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8166952/portland-trail-blazers-minneso...

Could the Wolves and Blazers actually be getting into a fight over Batum? Sounds like the Blazers are holding a grudge against the Wolves because of Roy and Minny is still mad about a cover-up about Webster's back surgery. Too bad to see Batum in the middle of this because he has been wanting to go play for the Wolves all along but he may have to play in Portland even though they may not want him for that price.

Get over it billionaires, next we are going to hear about a $1 bet like it was the Duke brothers from Trading Places.


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As a Twolves fan, its been a

As a Twolves fan, its been a little funny to see what has been going on, but at the same time I fear that it has completely ruined any chance of a sign n trade which has us waiting to see if the Blazers do indeed match. Along with that, because we took so long trying to make a sign n trade happen, we very well could miss out on the next crop of wing free agents (Lee, Mayo) or trade candidates (Iggy).

I don't really understand why Olshey is being such a clown when talking about Kahn or Minnesota as a state in general. I realize the NBA and people associated with it frankly dismiss the wolves and Minnesota due to its small market status, but some of the comments he has made are simply unprofessional and out of the norm when you are doing business with another organization. Does Olshey feel like he accomplished something by being a main guy with the Clippers who making a trade for Chris Paul were as irrelevant as MN?

Whatever happens with this whole situation, if Batum is acquired by Minnesota, he had better play really well. Because if he even plays average, another bullet is going to be loaded into the chamber of the Anti- Kahn firearm.

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Grinning.

The Blazers' pulled this exact stunt on the Jazz twice: Paul Millsap and Wes Matthews. In Sap's case, it caused the Jazz to pay Sap nearly double what he otherwise would have been paid (turned out to be well worth it). And it caused the Jazz to lose Wes. It's no surprise that going after a divisional rivals' RFAs will make them dislike you more. Although I respect the way Portland evaluates talent and aggressively pursues what they want, I'm glad to see them getting some of their own medicine.

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this is why players should be

this is why players should be unrestricted freeagents after their fourth year in the league because teams like the blazers and hornets lowball their players, then they wait for a team that actually wants the player to make a bid for him then they match it and get to keep him. The hornets lowballed gordon, then showed no interest in free agentcy in him, while the suns went after him and didnt take him for granted, most of the players just want to feel wanted and loved by a team, so when they find a team that actually wants them they go there. these rules are screwing teams and players who want to be together. If I am a player on stupid team like the blazers or hornets or anyother team that oporates with out class I would sign the qualifying offer then leave the next year.

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What's Minnesota's Plan?

First they trade the 18th pick in one of the deepest drafts in recent history for Chase Budinger. The 18th pick could have gotten them a young 2 or 3 depending on the route they had planned for free agency. Then you sign B.Roy and I sincerely hope he looks even remotely close to what he was once capable of but thats a HUGE if. So instead of having a young player to build with at the 2/3 you have Budinger at 3 and B.Roy at 2 and you let your only other proven scorer in Beasley walk for nothing and I never understood why Minnesota would pay Batum all of that money anyway... he's not worth that kind of money to me. Why not move Wesley Johnson to his natural position and stop trying to make him a 2. They cried all last year about a 2 guard and EG and Mayo(Still) where available albeit restricted but still they were available non the less, and you throw 50mil at Batum? I understand the draft hasn't been the kindest to them lately(Flynn/Johnson), but come on... they could have done better than Chase Budinger at 18 I think at least right now it doesn't seem like they are going about this off season the right way especially with your Star complaining. Personally it just doesn't seem like the plan is working right now, whatever that may be. Just my thoughts though.

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I am confused

You say draft not kind to them.... Didn't they make those picks... It not like they were forced on them.... Flynn pick beyond horrible

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First of all it's a Draft.

First of all it's a Draft. Meaning it could be hit or miss for anybody but it's been really bad for Minnesota in my opinion seeing as how they nearly always end up with high picks in both rounds that don't pan out for them. I'm sure everyone knows that no one forced them to do anything but that doesn't change the fact that draft night isn't the best night of the year in Minnesota. What I mean by the draft hasn't been kind to them is the way they draft and make draft day deals and they never work for the Wolves but other teams seem to come out on the winning side of the deal. I respect others opinion(even if I don't agree) and I'm always open to corrective criticism so tell me if I'm wrong Erin....

Taken/Missed:

2005- Rashad McCants/ Monte,,Granger, D.Lee and Lou Williams

2006-Randy Foye/ B.Roy was traded for the rights Randy Foye, Rudy Gay(who they tried to sign as a RFA), Rondo, Thabo, Lowry and P.Millsap

2007- Corey Brewer, Chris Richard/Marc Gasol, Noah, Thad, Jared Dudley, Wilson Chandler, Stuckey, A. Brooks, Afflalo, Big Baby, Landry and Sessions.

2008- Love, Nikola Pekovic./ there's no way to argue with 2008 since they drafted a starting 5 and a Franchise player in Love but they did give up Chalmers (34th pick) for cash, they could have kept him or picked up Dre Jordan, Asik, Mbah a Moute or Dragic. But getting K.Love was more than enough here though. Could of had Westbrook though, not complaining just saying.

2009- 4 1st rounders in the Year of the PG... Rubio, Flynn, Lawson, Ellington Nick Calathes and Henk Norel/ Steph Curry, Derozan, Jrue, Casspi, Taj, Blair, Jerebko, Thorton, Meeks, T Will, Budinger(who was picked 44th that year and just got traded for the 18th pick this year) and Danny Green. There were a few other guards the passed on but they got Rubio so why complain.

2010- Wesley Johnson, Luke Babbit, Trevor Booker/ DMC, Hayward, PG, Jordan Crawford, Landry Fields and Born Ready.

2011- Derrick Williams, Donatas Motiejunas/ Valanciunas, Biyombo, Klay, Burks, Leonard, Shumpert, Marshon Brooks, Parsons.

I know alot could be said about all the other teams that may have passed on these players also, that's just the nature of the Draft, hit or miss. Minnesota hasn't sniffed the playoffs since Ticket left town. I know seeing these guys they passed on playing in the all star games, playoffs and championships has to be gut wrenching for TWolves players, fans and Front office. Even if you chose to excuse all the bad drafting up unto 2008 and since they finally got a Franchise cornerstone in Love that year and Pekovic. 2009 was the year they could of set their team on the right path, they drafted PG's back to back! How dumb was that?! What if Rubio didn't wait 2yrs and came over right over to the League, now you've wasted a pick on another PG? Look at the other backcourt guys they passed on, why not get guys who could actually form a potent backcourt instead of guys who only play the same spot? Derozan, Thorton, T Will were all available, even Steph or Jrue could have played with Rubio in the backcourt and both them are better players than Jonny Flynn has been so far. Whether they traded Rubio's rights away, since heinitially didn't want to play in Minnesota or even in the event of Rubio's arrival Curry or Holiday would have been a more valuable asset the J.Flynn in the trade market. I'm still undecided on 2010 and 2011. 2010 because I know for a fact Wesley Johnson playing out of position and could possibly be a whole lot better playing the 3. 2011 because Derrick Williams could be really good someday sooner or later but at that time I think they had more pressing needs than another combo forward, seeing how the had Beasley(combo), Wesley Johnson already playing out of position at the 2 instead of his natural 3 and KLove locking the 4 down. Considering the fact that they didn't have a legit starting 5 at the time or a starting 2. One could always say what if and wonder but how could possibly say they don't draft bad and make bad draft day deals. Think of the team the Wolves from just 2008 until now with better drafting.

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hindsight is 20/20...you

hindsight is 20/20...you can't blame them for 2010, everyone thought Wesley Johnson would be that type of wing who could lockdown the opposing team's best player and do all the little things and its too early to call 2011 bad

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Thats what I said about 2010

Thats what I said about 2010 and 2011... I'm undecided. But the 2010 draft is pretty much on its last leg... he won't be better than DMC and Paul George is a better defender already and I think he's better offensively already.

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