LA Clippers trade Baron Davis and 2011 1st rd pick (unprotected) to Cleveland for Mo Williams and some other guy.
The Clippers pick just happens to win the lottery.
Cleveland says "Thank Clips"
i think people make too much of this trade
if clippers had kept baron prehaps their record would have been different and the odds would have changed its not like directly gave them the pick so its a big that bad of a deal (i guess it is now but if the gm had the chance to go back in time he would probobly do it again cause odds are very low of winning the top pick i think 2. something percent chance)
No its not the worst trade ever. If they keep Baron Davis then they end up with a different record and whoever has the 2.8 chance to win the lottery wins...and then they are still stuck with Baron Davis and would be drafting 8th in a very week draft and would still be trying to unload his horrible contract..
People forget that Mo Williams was an allstar in 2009 and is still pretty young. He is a much better player than Davis at this point and if they would not have traded for him then they wouldnt have the #1 pick anyway.
Yeah it was pretty bad, especially if that #1 pick happens to be a all-star....
they could of had..
5-years frow now, thats could of been a hell of a lineup imo..
if I was the Clippers, I would rather have a old and fat baron davis with the #1 draft pick to team up with Blake Griffin, than Mo Williams.
I think it would of been fine if the trade was Davis for Williams only, but the Clippers should have never included the 1st round pick regardless, because Clippers are always lottery bound. At least protect the pick.
No this is one of the worse trades I have ever saw in sports and I said that when it happened.
If they keep Baron Davis they actually probably wind up losing more games and would of went into the lotto with a better chance of winning. But either way I did not think that Mo Williams was worth a top 10 draft pick. I know they needed veteran leadership but Mo Williams has never been known as the purest passer so I never thought he was the idealistic fit for them. Now that the pick turned into the number one it looks even worse because you were looking at a lineup of Irving, Eric Gordon, Aminue, Blake, Jordan. That's a Thunder esque lineup who would of developed nicely, all blue chip prospects with good heads on their shoulders. At the worse they would of been able to get Kemba Walker, Knight, Leonard, Vessely, or somebody else that would of been exciting to watch with them.
Bottom line is I never believed Mo Williams was the missing piece for them to get into the playoffs. The Clippers need a PG like Kendel Marshall who is just going to look for open teamates and not his own shot. Tho Mo's shooting ability does provide the necessary floor spreading for Blake to operate so i will give them that. And I will also say that if Bledsoe stayed for his sophomore year Knight would of been starting at SG and Bledsoe would of been a top ten pick in this draft.
Hindsight is 20/20.
At the time trading a mid-lottery pick in a crapshoot of a draft for a little cap-room, a solid point guard and a total of 14-22 million dollars saved when all is said and done seemed like a perfectly plausible decision.
Cleveland spent about $11M more on the Baron Davis contract than the Clippers are spending on their contracts. The Cavs basically bought the pick the Clips got a better player to accelerate Griffins growth then the Clip have the cash on to buy a proven Free agent contract. $11M is a lot of money and it's a fair price for an unknown/unproven draft pick. Looking back how many picks actually live up to draft status. It's fair for both teams.
just goes to show how badly sterling wanted b diddy gone
I don't think it was a bad trade, at all. The Clippers saved a huge chunk of money, got a younger vet pg with a far better attitude about his future role on the team, and there was absolutely no guarantee they would win the lottery. Its so easy to say it was a bad trade after the Cavs win the lottery with the pick. The Clips have a solid young core of Bledsoe, Gordon, Aminu, Griffin, and D. Jordan (if re-signed), with Williams, Foye, Gomes, and Kaman coming off the bench. This team didn't need a high pick in a very weak draft... Give me a guarantee the Irving or D. Williams will be a star! I'm not sold on either one. Plus, with all the money the Clippers have, they can sign some quality vets and be ready to compete in a year or two. How is this scenario spelling out "worst trade ever"?
In hindsight it is because of the #1 pick, but that's all chance. Look forward and not backwards.
I dont care how weak the draft is: you do not gift someone a top ten pick for cap space like it is candy. I dont mind trading late first rounders for cap space, but in the long run, wouldn't you want to just try Jonas Valancias, or Brandon Knight, Jimmer Fredete, Kemba, or even Alec Burks or Jordan Hamilton. Isn't keeping BD for two more years worth the try?
you gotta understand though... With what Cleveland has gone through, they needed a break and this is one of them... I look at it this way... The Cavaliers needed that pick more than the Clippers need it... They got Blake Griffin whom they can build upon in years... Who ya got in Cleveland? Boy, do they need help in ALL cylinders...