I don't get it. why do people not think he will be that great in the nba. he is a monster. however, he is not a just a monster like thabeet or jordan in terms of being raw athletes, but he actually shows a lot of offensive potential. And its not like hes only hitting wide open shots in videos, he has hands in face, and he shows post moves. also, defensively, he doesn't just have highlight real dunks from the weakside like most prospects, he actually has on-ball defense blocks. that shows great shot blocking ability and overall defense. It doesn't matter that he is doing this at marshall because do you really think a guy like thabeet would have had advanced offensive ability like whiteside had he played at marshall? No, he wouldn't have. hassan is different than most of these upside big guys, he actually has offensive ability. Sure he needs to gain weight but that will be easy with that frame of his. Also, he shows passion for the game and wants to very good so I don't see how he could bust. Tell me, why will he not be that good?
I actually think Whiteside is already a better player than DeAndre Jordan when he went for the draft, so I would say the worst case scenario could be at least DeAndre Jordan and I actually think giving DJ a few years, he should be a solid center. I think Whiteside's upside is even better than both Thabeet and D Jordan, and he's likely a lottery pick.
His latest set back seems to be character-related issues. There were a few reports that he's immature and that was told by his coach and his teammates. I don't really think these are serious matter. Afterall, he's still a kid and immaturity can be corrected as he aged as long as he's not a serious headcase (which I have doubts). Another thing is he's academically ineligible to return to Marshall, and that is seen as another red flag, which I don't think so at all. I mean how many real NBA players are academically good anyway.
A few current weakness include "low bball IQ", " low motor", not playing fundamental defense (always tried to block) but then all of these can be corrected under good coaching. The key is that once he's in the league, the team would need to get him a good big man coach to get him going right from the start.
I think he has a good chance of being an all-star big man in the right situation.
A youtube video? really? I could go to the closest court and record me taking 200 3s and edit out all but the 20 I would probably sink...not saying he doesn't have a a jump shot, but youtube videos are terrible evidence.
Whiteside is only averaging 13pts in a mid major Conference, which is not comparable to the 16pts Cousins scores in the SEC. Now his blocking and rebounding skills are good even if they're improvable. A bit of a reach in the top 5 or so but could turn into a very good pick if drafted 8 to12
He has a nice jumpshot but shouldn't step out to more than 18ft. Alot of upside with this kid. Great defender. Marcus Camby comparisons seem to be just right. Now when he adds more muscle.. Then we'll be talking. Not a 25ppg 11rpg guy.. But maybe a 8ppg, 11rpg, 2.5bpg starter on a good playoff team.
The character and maturity concerns are going to play a big role in tempering excitement about his "upside." There is another thread on Sean Williams who is another guy who had just as much, if not more, upside but lacked the maturity and professionalism to stick. Right now, Whiteside is not that good of a prospect. He has length and athleticism, but he lacks experience, strength, and maturity. How are all those factors going to come together?
His approach to the team after the CUSA tournament apparently has not been that good, which has been why he was coming off bench for their two CIT games. I'm not saying that 20-year olds should not be given the opportunity to make mistakes and learn, but this isn't something to just brush aside. It does not matter if the guy has upside if he has no willingness to work to get better.
There is no shortage of people who doubt DeMarcus Cousins and his maturity, but I do not think it is even comparable. It is one thing for a kid to get hot in the moment and screw up, it is another to just cash in a season when he has millions of dollars on the line with pro personnel watching his every move. People cannot doubt that Cousins loves to play, he just needs to better handle his emotions.
Sammy D but more offensively advanced and a lil more IQ. Sammy puts up an inflated 7.9, 9.6, and 2.0 so I could def see Whiteside putting up a solid 11, 11, 2.7 in maybe 3 years. He would be a good defensive presence for the Kings, Twolves, or Grizz.
How is sammy d's numbers inflated?
The article sounds like a kid who just couldn't get his act together after a disappointing performance against Jerome Jordan in the CUSA tournament. It is not surprising for a hyped prospect to think for himself and not play for the team. I think this probably created a crack between himself, his teammates and the coach. Obviously, this shows a lot of immaturity, but it doesn't sound that bad.
Whiteside is no where near Sean Williams in terms of deadly character red flags and he's more talented than Sean Williams (who could only block shot and not even as good as Whiteside). He surely lacks experience, strength and maturity, that's why he's a big project and must receive immediately attention for the team that drafts him. The team must get him on the right track rightaway and need to get him a big man coach to develop his skills. He got the frame to fill up decently. He upside would depend on his mental makeup.
DeMarcus Cousins on the other hand showed that his character issue was blown out of proportion. I think he's like a Zach Randolph, talent, skills, but has a little attitude issue that can be tolerated in the right situation. Zach is also tagged as defenseless, selfish, got a bad attitude, but he always deliver in terms of scoring and rebounding. He is the key for Griz's success this season (although they still don't make the playoff in the tough west).
Cuz a lot of his boards r cheap boards or O boards off his misses. Watching him is the only way to trully understand how bad he is lol. Routinely gets out-muscled, out-rebounded, and is an awful defender due to his IQ being about 12.
. . but i see a LITTLE BIT of hakeem olajuwon's game in whiteside. . . in terms of the upside at the same level && the athleticism. . && the being skinny. . && i believe whiteside will be great in the nba .
It all depends on who drafts him. On most teams, I see Whiteside busting.
Right now, all he can do at an NBA level is block shots.
hakeem in his game?...thats abig negitive..closer to camby...he shouldnt even be mentioned int he same breath as hakeem. thats like me saying i see a lil jordan in wesley johnsons game
Hakeem Olajuwon? Nah nah nah playa.
Whoever compared him to Samuel Dalembert is like right on the money.
Dalembert is perfect comparison, I big skinny guy who can block shots, but has a low basketball IQ and takes long jumpers he shouldn't be taking. Good role player though.
I disagree, Dalembert is an all-round player. Sure he makes bad decisions sometimes but every player has things like that to happen to them. burning calories
Little known fact about Whiteside... He was a guard most of HS and not a guard that had D1 skills.. Sometime, late in HS, he hit a crazy growth spurt and thats why he went to Marshall.. Bob Huggins asked his assistants why they werent all over this guy coming out of HS and they said that they had watched him play as a junior and he was an average guard... Hmmm.. I think he will be okay.. Think Serge Ibaka...
I was surprised when he didnt get picked in the 1st round. But right now he is just way to skinny and weak to play against NBA centers. Eventually he can make plays with his athleticism and shot blocking. A poor mans Marcus Camby.
I'm still not sure what to think about Whiteside. Anybody with that kind of height, length, and athleticism is definitely intriguing, but the NBA is a man's game. He needs to focus on getting mentally and physically tough. If he can do that everything else should fall into place.