The Toronto Star has a story on Toronto Raptors free agent forward Chris Bosh and his options during the upcoming free agency period, and one intriguing possibility that is mentioned is Bosh signing with the Oklahoma City Thunder.
The article notes that one incentive for Bosh is that OKC is close to his Dallas home. But there's more reason than that. Anyone who saw the Thunder knock off the Lakers in Game 3 last night would have to be excited about the possibility of playing with Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and James Harden for the next few years, and Bosh would fill a real need for the Thunder as a post scorer. From a talent and roster perspective, OKC is a much more attractive option than either the Chicago Bulls or the Miami Heat, and with several of the top Western Conference teams getting to be on the older side, the Thunder is poised to be a threat in the West for years to come. We're just speculating on all of this, but given all these reasons and the fact that the organization will have plenty of cap space this summer, you'd think Bosh would have to start giving the team some serious consideration.
You know, I don't know why OKC isn't talked about more. I have never been to the city, but I doubt it's that terrible, and there are some things to do, but you're traveling a lot. So if I were Chris Bosh, I would go to OKC. But a lineup of Westbrook-Harden-Durant-Bosh-Kristic with Thabo, Green, Ibaka, Maynor, Mullens, and 2 1st's and 1 second round picks on the bench, I like, I like a lot.
its make great sense all the way around. But im curious if that rumor has any merit other then it just makes a lot of sense or if bosh has actually hinted at it.
That article is courtesy of ESPN.com by the way.
If you're the Thunder, would you rather sign Bosh to max money or David Lee for a significant amount of millions cheaper?
If Bosh is willing to play Robin to Kevin Durant, then giving him max money is worth it. Though, if this does not interest Chris Bosh, you get David Lee the guy will contribute and not b*tch about anything.
The thing is they do have to resign Durant and unless hes willing to take a pay cut, thats a max deal. I dont know if they can afford Bosh.
david Lee wouldnt expect max level money and is not that far off from bosh as a player, personally, i would go lee
I would never sign David Lee. They need a banger C not a scoring pf.
Lee is not looking for max money. He is looking to get paid 10-12 million, but not max money.
Fastdan, they do need a banger at the C position, but who is out there??
David Lee is gonna probably end up in a sign and trade.
Definitely LEE. Here's why:
1. Bosh is less effective when he doesn't have the ball in his hands. On OKC, Bosh will take touches away from Durant and Westbrook, who need the ball to create chances. I honestly think that the Thunder offense will be more stagnant with Bosh there. I don't think Bosh will accept the role of being a guy who just does the picka and pop and rebounds.
2. David Lee is pretty much just as good as Chris Bosh at the mid range game.
3. Lee is just as fierce a rebounder
4. Lee is a better passer than Bosh. With Durant and Westbrook cutting, it'll be an asset.
5. Lee is low maintenance. Bosh seems like a prima donna type of guy who'll complain if he doesn't get his touches, which would be a total chemistry killer.
If I were the Thunder, I's only sign Bosh if I don't get Lee, or I would sign Bosh in a sign and trade to a team that has parts OKC needs.
I have to disagree with Lee being effective without the ball. New Yorks offense runs completely through him he hasnt proven hes a good sidekick player, he may become one but just like Bosh, im not sure how hell adjust to less touches.
Could OKC really pass up on Bosh though? He's a perenial All-Star... Should've been the starter this season. He's not even reached his prime yet and is a top five power forward.
I think if Bosh wants to win, he'll go to OKC and take less touches. If he doesn't want to win then he might as well stay in Toronto, right?
IF OKC has a chance at Bosh, they'd better go for it. Durant is the type of player that can co-exist with another superstar. I just can't see them not making it work. Bosh would make them a contender next season.
Who would have an answer for Durant and Bosh? You can't double Bosh and if you do, Durant will make you pay. Then you'll have Westbrook as the third option, which is a position I think he'd thrive even more in. He'd be able to impact so many other aspects of the game without having to worry about scoring as much.
All the Thunder would need is a couple of shooters and a big who can bang. That team could win a title in a couple of years.
I agree with you Tezo, it would be awfully scary to have to face that. Would this make Jeff Green the odd man out??
Tezo, this team IS going to win a title in a couple of years, too talented not to.
I think the move would benefit Green. It'd put him in a reserve role. He could back up both Durant and Bosh. He'd give them some versatility coming off of the bench, similar to Odom with the Lakers.
I could see that he is a pretty versatile player, Green. Say right now Sam Presti's goal is to land Chris Bosh. Do you think he should draft Solomon Alabi out of Florida St. as his future Center??
I think they should try to find an established center via free-agency. Seattle/OKC haven't had much luck drafting centers in the draft lol.
That's true. Robert Swift, Johan Petro, Saer something (sp?) idk. Whose out there for Centers. I believe Brendan Haywood is a free agent, who would be perfect, but I don't see him leaving Dallas.
I would rather have Orton instead of Alabi, as a Thunder fan. (And a UK fan lol)
Orton is a bust waiting to happen, and Orton is not a center.
I'd be very surprised if Presti was interested at all in Bosh or Lee, they just don't suit the teams needs. Just because you have money doesn't mean you have to spend it!
Orton is a little undersized for the center position, but has the length to play bigger than what he is. He does project to be exactly what the Thunder need. A big, strong, tough and above average athletic center who can defend.
There was interest in Lee last summer.
What we really need is a rebounding Center that has a high IQ. I've wanted to punch Krstic in the throat so many times this season. He can get rebounds but makes bad decisions
Toronto and New York have both stated that they want to do a sign and trade, so if the Thunder want Lee or Bosh they are probably going to have to give something up. If they were to go that road then the team would be completely different.
And Bosh is a great player, but he could really hurt the flow of that team. He isn't the inside presence they need, or the defensive player they need. Just because a player is a big name doesn't mean you have to sign them. Just look at the Brand signing, and tell me how that worked out.
Did Pau Gasol hurt the flow of the Lakers? He and Bosh are similar players. Gasol was coming from a Memphis team where he was the #1 option.
Lol do you really think OKC signing Bosh would be similar to the 76ers signing Brand? They'd be two completely different situations. For one... That was never a good fit in Philadelphia. They were a running team, not a half court team. Two... Brand suffered injuries. He was coming off of an achilles injury and then he separated his shoulder. Then they brought in Eddie Jordan, which was just a disaster.
Bosh wouldn't be the defensive player they need, but he'd definitely be the inside presence they need. He can score with his back to the basket or from the high post.
Can you imagine the thunder signing bosh and then keeping thabo in the starting lineup and having Green and Harden off the bench. that would be sick
what about amare stoudemire? i would love okc to get him along side of serge ibaka, uber athletic
Bosh is coming off of the best season of his career. He's among the league leaders in double doubles. 24 and 10.8 rebounds while shooting 51.8 FG, 79.7 FT and even 36.4 3-PT. He's not even in his prime yet.
Bosh is a better player than Brand. I think Brand's stats were inflated due to playing on the Clippers.
Bosh is not a good defender. His value comes from his scoring and rebounding. With Durant, Westbrook, Green and Harden, Bosh would probably get like 12 touches a game. Not sure why you would want to give max money to a PF averaging 15-10 with poor defense.
Whoever said that Oklahoma city is a great place is crazy. Oklahoma city is boring for a city, and the State of Oklahoma as a whole is, and I can say this without a moments hesitation, the absolute last place in this country I would ever want to be.
I repeat. NEVER GO TO OKLAHOMA FOR ANY REASON EVER. There is nothing, there is no money, it is not beautiful, its just endless fields, trailer parks, and broken down trucks.
Thats why Chris Bosh wouldn't want to play for the Thunder. These guys have to live where they play at least part of the year.
What kind of drugs are you on??????????????? You sound like a little dick from Seattle.
canesboy, I never said it was a great place, but I can't imagine it being that bad.
Do you really think that Green and Harden would affect Bosh's touches? Harden is a role player off of the bench and Green would be best in a reserve role too. If anything, their touches would be the ones deminishing. Bosh would be responsible for sharing touches with Durant. Durant could still get his 20. Bosh can get 15. Westbrook could get about 10-12. Everybody else on that team is a role player.
Harden will end up being a very good scorer off the bench and Green is a solid #3 option. You may not agree, but it's still paying max money for a #2 option, and it doesn't do anything about filling their hole at the 5.
canesboy6, u r the DUMBEST person I've ever known. U have obviously never been to OKLAHOMA. I live here and it's not boring , its not ugly, and it is not just feilds. Now some parts like little towns are feildy but you don't know what you are talking about. And it probably better than whatever little place u stay.
But I wouldn't mind getting Bosh if he excepts the Pau Gasol role to Kevin like Gasol to Kobe
I like the idea of Bosh in OKC. Him and David Lee would be good assets. But I'd rather have Bosh. Bosh can play the low and high posts as well, well even better, than Lee can. He also is a better scorer. Lee is a better passer and rebounder, but Bosh is no slouch at either area.
I don't really think any of these guys would work with OKC. First off the Raptors are planning a sign and trade for Bosh, so they would want something biggish in return because colangelo is that kind of GM.
Bosh is not the dominating low post presence he has been made out to be in this post, I live in Canada so I get pretty much nothin but Raptors. Bosh almost never scores with his back to the basket, it is almost a certainty he will faceup and either shoot the mid range jumper or drives hard left and tries to dunk, this happens almost every time he touches the ball.
OKC is also all about stifling team defense as they have no real shotblockers outside of Ibaka. Neither Bosh, Lee, or Amare are all that good of defenders, so the team defense that makes OKC so good would really suffer.
Also Bosh just said in a press conference that he had no intention of playing second fiddle to anybody.
If they must go after somebody I would try for Haywood assuming he is available.
I see Bosh as a poor mans KG, and like KG Bosh falls in love with his jump shot to much. The Thunder have enough shooters, they need a banger down low who will grab boards and play with their back to the basket. Your kidding yourself if you think thats what Bosh will do, AND play second to Durant and possibly third to Westbrook. Maybe I'm wrong though and Bosh is willing to sacrifice that much, but only time will tell.
Sorry to break the news, but the Lakers are going to trade either Bynum or Gasol for Bosh. I personally would rather trade Gasol, because a front court of Gasol and Bosh wouldn't be fair and they would probably be the best front court in NBA history. The Lakers are going to consider doing a sign and trade for Bosh. Bosh and Bynum would work much better than Bynum and Gasol, becuase Bosh is a face up player. Bynum and Gasol are both back to the basket players. Gasol's faceup game isn't as good as Bosh's. Bosh wants to come to a big market, because he has tons of personailty and he is just waiting to let it out, whats a better place than Hollywood? Bosh has also mentioned that he wants to come to a city that is warm, he also mentioned that winning is going to play a huge role in where he will go. Toronto will get a back to the basket player in Gasol, can you imagine a front court of Bargnani and Gasol? Bosh and Bynum would also be very scary. Bosh isn't going to leave the Raptors empty handed like everyone thinks, he has a very close relationship with Colangelo and they are going to work out a sign a trade.
Assuming both are available, I think the Thunder would be better off with Bosh than Lee. Bosh, Durant and Westbrook would be the top trio in the league, and I think a contender to win the west. Bosh is an established player in the league, and in his third year Durant is an MVP canidate. Also, Westbrook has shown glimpses of being an elite point guard in the league. This would be an extremely young and talented team. Knicksfan7 mentioned drafting Solomon Alabi with their 1st round pick. I've seen Alabi play in person and was not impressed at all. To me he seemed soft and had a lack of post moves. With that pick I think they would be better off taking someone like Daniel Orton who has room to improve but alot of size and strength, which is something they need inside.
"If you're the Thunder, would you rather sign Bosh to max money or David Lee for a significant amount of millions cheaper?"
If you ever want to win, the answer is without a doubt Bosh. Lee is just another guy getting fat numbers on a bad team. If he leaves New York, he'll have a big, bad contract and he'll still be a very average power forward.
Dont know if that would actually happen Bosh stated earlier this year he wanted to be #1 option...
Maybe Amare he been a #2 his whole career but dont get me wrong Steve Nash needs him as much as he needs Steve.
Sorry to get your panties in a bunch. I've been all over Oklahoma because in Texas they decide to shut down highways just because of nascar. Took Highway 81 north through most of OK and then took I-40 west from OKC. Its Boring, hills and fields and cows. Its cold, rainy, and run down. Im sorry that you live there but it isnt my fault so dont take it out on me.
Im From Miami and Live in Denver now, so no, it is not better than the little places im from.
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