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    RMolloy24
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    Who will be the better player and how good do you think they’ll be???

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  • #772711
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    TallmanNYC
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    Mojo is already a good offensive player. He can’t rebound or defend yet, so he doesn’t play. But he is highly skilled. Kanter has a great body and can rebound, but so far has little in the way of basketball skills that work beyond five feet from the hoop. I think Kanter is better now, but Mojo has more upside.

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  • #772785
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    TallmanNYC
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    Mojo is already a good offensive player. He can’t rebound or defend yet, so he doesn’t play. But he is highly skilled. Kanter has a great body and can rebound, but so far has little in the way of basketball skills that work beyond five feet from the hoop. I think Kanter is better now, but Mojo has more upside.

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  • #772716
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    JoeWolf1

    I still believe Kanter is a future star. He’s got the body, and improving shot and he’s slowly putting it together. I’ve seen him hit 18 footers in games and he ended the year at nearly 80% from the stripe and granted it was against the Bobcats, he had a 20/20 game as a 20 year old. All those things are great signs for his development.

    Utah is going to probably let Jefferson go and I think by age 22 or 23, Kanter is around a 15/10 player and I honestly think he could flirt with 20/12 in his prime. From what I’ve seen of Motie, he reminds me of Toni Kukoc, but Kuk was a very nice player, and Motie could be too, I just think Enes Kanter will make at least a few All-Star teams.

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    • #772776
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      lakeshow22
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      Will nikola vucevic be better than all of them? He put up huge numbers on the magic

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      • #772780
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        Sewok15
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        Vucevic is already offensively ahead of Kanter. Vucevic came into the league with NBA range and some nice post moves. I was stunned that the Sixers got rid of him. Doug Collins didn’t exactly use him as much as he should but anybody that watched him knew he had loads of potential. That being said I didn’t expect him to be 2nd in the league in rebounding. His toughness inside is actually what worried me about him moving forward. He put those worries to rest quickly and even though Orlando was awful this season it wasn’t because of Vucevic.

        As JoeWolf said Kanter is going to be a beast when he starts playing 30+ minutes a night. He is like a bull in a china shop and will instantly be one of the best rebounders in the league. I think him and Vucevic will have very similar numbers in equal minutes. I think Vucevic is more of a finesse player on offense. Kanter is tougher but probably doesn’t have as good of a touch. I would say next year Vucevic will put up 15 and 12. Kanter will probably put around 14 and 10. I think they are very similar players with the difference being Vucevic can stretch the defense a little bit more with his jump shot. That would probably be the deciding factor in my decision but really you can’t go wrong with either guy and I wouldn’t be surprised if Kanter and Vucevic both became all star centers down the road.

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        • #772867
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          I agree, they’re pretty similar players, both beasts on the glass, and have emerging offensive games. I disagree, on one thing, I think Kanter has the better pure jumper, but Vucevic has a nice hook and a more mature offensive game. Over time, though, I think Kanter will be the superior jump shooter when he starts to get more minutes.

          They are very similar, though, physically very big and strong, but have the ability to face up and neither are great rim protectors, but they’re still big enough to make a guy think twice about driving.

          Both guys have a bright future and I think they project pretty similarly going forward. Neither are first option guys, but they could be really good 2nd option centers that could get 18-21 ppg and they’re both going to be among the top rebounders in the league for many years ( Vucevic already is 11.9 for his sophomore season).

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        • #772789
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          JoeWolf1

          I agree, they’re pretty similar players, both beasts on the glass, and have emerging offensive games. I disagree, on one thing, I think Kanter has the better pure jumper, but Vucevic has a nice hook and a more mature offensive game. Over time, though, I think Kanter will be the superior jump shooter when he starts to get more minutes.

          They are very similar, though, physically very big and strong, but have the ability to face up and neither are great rim protectors, but they’re still big enough to make a guy think twice about driving.

          Both guys have a bright future and I think they project pretty similarly going forward. Neither are first option guys, but they could be really good 2nd option centers that could get 18-21 ppg and they’re both going to be among the top rebounders in the league for many years ( Vucevic already is 11.9 for his sophomore season).

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          • #773633
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            Sewok15
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            I love I get negged all day and Joe Wolf starts his reply to me off with “I agree” and gets +3.

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          • #773562
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            Sewok15
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            I love I get negged all day and Joe Wolf starts his reply to me off with “I agree” and gets +3.

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        • #772879
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          lakeshow22
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          How does kanter put up 14/10 without a starting role?

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        • #772799
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          lakeshow22
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          How does kanter put up 14/10 without a starting role?

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          • #773144
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            Sewok15
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            He will be the starting Center in Utah come October. I highly doubt they re-sign Al Jefferson with the money and years he will command on the open market. They have been trying to transition to a starting front court of Favors and Kanter for a while.

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          • #773074
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            Sewok15
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            He will be the starting Center in Utah come October. I highly doubt they re-sign Al Jefferson with the money and years he will command on the open market. They have been trying to transition to a starting front court of Favors and Kanter for a while.

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            • #773181
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              lakeshow22
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              Even if they don’t bring back Jefferson than milsap will probably be back and favors would start at center alongside him

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              • #773561
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                Sewok15
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                False. Favors and Milsap are both power forwards. I believe that Kanter would be starting at center. Favors could still play back up 4 and 5 and play 20+ minutes a game but it wouldn’t make sense to start both Milsap and Favors and bring Kanter off the bench yet.

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              • #773631
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                Sewok15
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                False. Favors and Milsap are both power forwards. I believe that Kanter would be starting at center. Favors could still play back up 4 and 5 and play 20+ minutes a game but it wouldn’t make sense to start both Milsap and Favors and bring Kanter off the bench yet.

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            • #773252
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              lakeshow22
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              Even if they don’t bring back Jefferson than milsap will probably be back and favors would start at center alongside him

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      • #772856
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        Sewok15
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        Vucevic is already offensively ahead of Kanter. Vucevic came into the league with NBA range and some nice post moves. I was stunned that the Sixers got rid of him. Doug Collins didn’t exactly use him as much as he should but anybody that watched him knew he had loads of potential. That being said I didn’t expect him to be 2nd in the league in rebounding. His toughness inside is actually what worried me about him moving forward. He put those worries to rest quickly and even though Orlando was awful this season it wasn’t because of Vucevic.

        As JoeWolf said Kanter is going to be a beast when he starts playing 30+ minutes a night. He is like a bull in a china shop and will instantly be one of the best rebounders in the league. I think him and Vucevic will have very similar numbers in equal minutes. I think Vucevic is more of a finesse player on offense. Kanter is tougher but probably doesn’t have as good of a touch. I would say next year Vucevic will put up 15 and 12. Kanter will probably put around 14 and 10. I think they are very similar players with the difference being Vucevic can stretch the defense a little bit more with his jump shot. That would probably be the deciding factor in my decision but really you can’t go wrong with either guy and I wouldn’t be surprised if Kanter and Vucevic both became all star centers down the road.

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    • #772853
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      lakeshow22
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      Will nikola vucevic be better than all of them? He put up huge numbers on the magic

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  • #772793
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    JoeWolf1

    I still believe Kanter is a future star. He’s got the body, and improving shot and he’s slowly putting it together. I’ve seen him hit 18 footers in games and he ended the year at nearly 80% from the stripe and granted it was against the Bobcats, he had a 20/20 game as a 20 year old. All those things are great signs for his development.

    Utah is going to probably let Jefferson go and I think by age 22 or 23, Kanter is around a 15/10 player and I honestly think he could flirt with 20/12 in his prime. From what I’ve seen of Motie, he reminds me of Toni Kukoc, but Kuk was a very nice player, and Motie could be too, I just think Enes Kanter will make at least a few All-Star teams.

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  • #772725
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    omphalos
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    I’m a big believer in Motiejunas, but I think he’ll have to wait until Asik’s contract expires before he really excels. He can play the 4, but in the modern NBA he’s suited as a stretch 5 (hard to believe such a thing exists) and also Robinson’s presence makes it less likely that Motie is their long-term solution at the 4.

    It will all come down to opportunity; Utah is going to cut loose either Jefferson or Milsap – maybe even both – but Kanter will still have to compete with Favors for big minutes.

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    • #772782
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      Kanter has that one thing you dont see much off a nice high/low post up game since he has range on his jumper plus size. He and favors will be a beast pair. He can defend the weaker post man while favors guards the better 4/5 to cover up for his lack of defense. (Which is not bad considering all the bigs are either stretch shooters or slashers not many real post up guys..

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    • #772858
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      trueone313detroit
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      Kanter has that one thing you dont see much off a nice high/low post up game since he has range on his jumper plus size. He and favors will be a beast pair. He can defend the weaker post man while favors guards the better 4/5 to cover up for his lack of defense. (Which is not bad considering all the bigs are either stretch shooters or slashers not many real post up guys..

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  • #772801
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    omphalos
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    I’m a big believer in Motiejunas, but I think he’ll have to wait until Asik’s contract expires before he really excels. He can play the 4, but in the modern NBA he’s suited as a stretch 5 (hard to believe such a thing exists) and also Robinson’s presence makes it less likely that Motie is their long-term solution at the 4.

    It will all come down to opportunity; Utah is going to cut loose either Jefferson or Milsap – maybe even both – but Kanter will still have to compete with Favors for big minutes.

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  • #772760
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    scliddiard
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    I like Monti but IMO Kanter will be the better player, I watched almost every Jazz game and Kanter has the ability to be a big time scorer in the league, he worked out with Big Al all the time and Big Al said I show Kanter a move one time and he can replicate it almost immediately, he can shoot from 20 ft pretty easy and before long he will show he can hit from the 3 point range. He is strong, tough , smart and hard working . His Turky coach called Corbin an idiot for keeping Kanter in the low block because he said he is the best shooter on our entire team and should be allowed to shoot from the outside. Time will tell but Kanter shows he has the knack to score and rebound. I agree with Joe Kanter will be a multiple time All Star.

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  • #772837
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    scliddiard
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    I like Monti but IMO Kanter will be the better player, I watched almost every Jazz game and Kanter has the ability to be a big time scorer in the league, he worked out with Big Al all the time and Big Al said I show Kanter a move one time and he can replicate it almost immediately, he can shoot from 20 ft pretty easy and before long he will show he can hit from the 3 point range. He is strong, tough , smart and hard working . His Turky coach called Corbin an idiot for keeping Kanter in the low block because he said he is the best shooter on our entire team and should be allowed to shoot from the outside. Time will tell but Kanter shows he has the knack to score and rebound. I agree with Joe Kanter will be a multiple time All Star.

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  • #772764
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    CavFanPR
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    Motiejunas and it’s not even close.

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    • #772770
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      JoeWolf1

      Care to elaborate?

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    • #772847
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      JoeWolf1

      Care to elaborate?

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  • #772841
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    CavFanPR
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    Motiejunas and it’s not even close.

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  • #772784
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    gotta go with kanter and its not that close. lol

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  • #772860
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    gotta go with kanter and its not that close. lol

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  • #772864
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    DolanCare
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    Every time I watch Monti I’m always impressed with his ball skills. He has great touch, good handle and could be a great point forward depending on the team he plays for. But his style of play, more importantly lack of rebounding and toughness, will hurt his chances of playing big minutes on a quality team.

    While Kanter may not be as skilled as Monti, he fits the bill of a center in today’s NBA. He could also play 4 too if need be. He works hard, rebounds and can score effectively. Does he have the range and handling of Monti? No. But he doesn’t have to- and most NBA coaches don’t want their bigs playing like that anyways.

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  • #772787
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    Every time I watch Monti I’m always impressed with his ball skills. He has great touch, good handle and could be a great point forward depending on the team he plays for. But his style of play, more importantly lack of rebounding and toughness, will hurt his chances of playing big minutes on a quality team.

    While Kanter may not be as skilled as Monti, he fits the bill of a center in today’s NBA. He could also play 4 too if need be. He works hard, rebounds and can score effectively. Does he have the range and handling of Monti? No. But he doesn’t have to- and most NBA coaches don’t want their bigs playing like that anyways.

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  • #772869
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    TheLastWord
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    Moto is a 7 footer that doesn’t like to rebound and can’t block a shot, not a fan of such players in this mold. He plays inside more than Bargnani does, but their rookie year numbers are similar. So, yeah, Kanter by alot.

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  • #772790
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    TheLastWord
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    Moto is a 7 footer that doesn’t like to rebound and can’t block a shot, not a fan of such players in this mold. He plays inside more than Bargnani does, but their rookie year numbers are similar. So, yeah, Kanter by alot.

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  • #773156
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    I’ve got to go with Kanter. Every time I watch him his post game is pretty good and his footwork is amazing. He positions himself to be in the right place and he takes up a lot of space in the key. He’s very physical and his work ethic seems to be evident from his improvement from his rookie to sophmore year

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  • #773086
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    abaecp27
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    I’ve got to go with Kanter. Every time I watch him his post game is pretty good and his footwork is amazing. He positions himself to be in the right place and he takes up a lot of space in the key. He’s very physical and his work ethic seems to be evident from his improvement from his rookie to sophmore year

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  • #773186
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    j1232e
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    is by far stronger than 80% of his defenders. corbins got to let loose the turk, play his gane,
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  • #773115
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    j1232e
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    is by far stronger than 80% of his defenders. corbins got to let loose the turk, play his gane,
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