2023 Mock Draft 1.0 - NBADraft.net

This topic contains 22 replies, has 5 voices, and was last updated by JazzP 1 year, 10 months ago.

Author
Posts
Posted on: Thu, 10/06/2022 - 11:57am #1257529

JazzP
Participant
I’m glad most of the international leagues have started!!
I can’t wait for NCAAB. I thought it would be fun to make a mock now and see how wrong it looked by draft time.
1. Victor Wembanyama, France
2. Scoot Henderson, G League
3. Nick Smith, Arkansas
4. Amen Thompson, OTE
5. Brandon Miller, Alabama
6. Baba Miller, Florida St.
7. Keyonte George, Baylor
8. GG Jackson, South Carolina
9. Dereck Lively, Duke
10. Ausar Thompson, OTE
11. Dariq Whitehead, Duke
12. Amari Bailey, UCLA
13. Trevon Brazile, Arkansas
14. Arthur Kaluma, Creighton
15. Jarace Walker, Houston
16. Juan Nunez, Germany
17. Cason Wallace, Kentucky
18. Johni Broome, Auburn
19. Malcolm Cazalon, Serbia
20. Cameron Whitmore, Villanova
21. Oscar Tshiebwe, Kentucky
22. Gradey Dick, Kansas
23. Leonard Miller, G League
24. Matthew Cleveland, Florida St.
25. Sidy Cissoko, G League
26. Terquavion Smith, NC State
27. Jordan Hawkins, UConn
28. Dillon Mitchell, Texas
29. Anthony Black, Arkansas
30. Paulius Murauskas, Lithuania
31. Kyle Filipowski, Duke
32. Tanner Holden, Ohio St.
33. Drew Timme, Gonzaga
34. Kel’el Ware, Oregon
35. Marcus Sasser, Houston
36. Antonio Reeves, Kentucky
37. Milan Barbitch, France
38. Santiago Vescovi, Tennessee
39. Kris Murray, Iowa
40. Adem Bona, UCLA
41. Terrence Shannon, Illinois
42. DaRon Holmes, Dayton
43. Mojave King, G League
44. Armando Bacot, North Carolina
45. Arterio Morris, Texas
46. Isiaih Mosley, Missouri
47. Berke Buyuktuncel, Turkey
48. Joe Bamisile, Oklahoma
49. K.C. Ndefo, Seton Hall
50. Tramon Mark, Houston
51. Rayan Rupert, Australia
52. Nijel Pack, Miami
53. Jett Howard, Michigan
54. Tristan Vukcevic, Serbia
55. Noam Yaacov, France (U21)
56. Malachi Smith, Gonzaga
57. Ousmane N’Diaye, Spain (2nd division?)
58. Kendric Davis, Memphis
59. Johned Walker, OTE
2+
Posted on: Mon, 10/10/2022 - 8:21pm #1257569

JazzP
Participant
Ah, shoot.
I didn’t include James Nnaji because he wasn’t really in Barca’s rotation at all for the first few games of the season, nor was there any indication he would play in LEB Gold/Silver or anything.
I absolutely do think he’s draft-worthy, but I thought he’d probably want to wait until 2024 if that were the case. And then Barca went and started him and played him 27 minutes and he looked really good in the very next game. Admittedly, they did so against the one opponent that is starting a 16-year old Center, so it could have just been an aberration, but he played too well.
The consequences of snap decisions, I suppose. Excluding Nnaji is going to look really dumb, and it WAS intentional, but not meant as a sleight.
1+
- Posted on: Mon, 10/10/2022 - 11:16pm #1257570
  
  NorrinRadd
  Participant
  James Nnaji is definitely draftable, but he’s not a shoe-in. This class is that loaded. He might stay a year like you said.
  1+
Posted on: Tue, 10/11/2022 - 6:27am #1257572

Hitster
Participant
The 2023 draft does look to have some nice depth and the interest could be how the rest of the top of the draft shapes up behind Wemby and Scoot as the teams who miss out on the big prizes will be looking closely at what is available. Will that part of the draft move around a lot or will clear top 5 players emerge behind the big two.
2+
- Posted on: Tue, 10/11/2022 - 7:51am #1257573
  
  NorrinRadd
  Participant
  I think there’s a crapshoot after 2. The next prospects in line can be All-Star level players in theory. There’s quite a bit of them. Thompson twins, Whitehead, Whitmore, Nick Smith to name a few. Imo there are a top 50ish players that could be 1st round picks too.
  2+
Posted on: Tue, 10/11/2022 - 9:28pm #1257577

Hitster
Participant
Yep I fully agee Noririn but if we see maybe 5 or 6 teams looking to tank or really developing their young players there will be several teams missing out on Wemby or Scoot so they will need some sort of consolation prize. Some of the teams already have potential stars but those just starting the rebuild will need a cornerstone in sooner rather than later.
There could be just as good prospects picked up by a team drafting lower in the top 10 than those in the top 5 and that is the interesting part of next year’s draft to me after the lottery.
I like GG Jackson as the guy with the most upside after the big 2 but there are a host of guys who can challenge for a top 5 draft place and it isn’t a bad year to be in the draft as all thet hype will be around the big 2 so other guys will have a bit less spotlight on them.
With all the talk about the Wemby stakes I wonder if the Blazers now regret not trying to move and instead extending Lillard as they could have well been in the mix for hm and Scoot.
2+
Posted on: Tue, 10/11/2022 - 10:43pm #1257578

BothTeamsPlayedHard-
Participant
It is ok to let the season play out before determining whether a draft is good or not, deep or not. If past is prologue, roughly half of the expected one-and-done guys will not be good in the NCAA or elsewhere. Whereas a decade ago that would usually lead them to not enter or stay in the draft, that is now not a hindrance though I am unsure as to how many objectively bad college players (posterboy being Peyton Watson) went on to succeed in the NBA. The pool is not lacking the 6’7″ to 6’10” long athletes that the NBA loves whether they are first-year eligible guys or not. Some percentage of them will show that they can actually play well once put against other similarly sized players and with coaching that is actually competent. We will also probably see a Keegan Murray type story, it might even be his twin brother. Until the season starts playing out, it doesn’t make a ton of sense to pan it.
2+
- Posted on: Wed, 10/12/2022 - 12:09am #1257579
  
  NorrinRadd
  Participant
  That’s true, but sometimes you just know when a draft is going to be great… Sometimes the talent in it is that good. There are always pleasant surprises during the season that prove everyone wrong. But for now, it’s a good as a start as any to get your preseason rankings out. As for those Peyton Watson’s out there, not a fan of bad college players entering the draft either. PB&J is the biggest piece of Warriors trash I’ve seen in years. And I feel they shouldn’t have got drafted yet alone even entering their names. Doubt they succeed, but that’s yet to be seen. It’s going to be a fun college season and draft process.
  1+
Posted on: Wed, 10/12/2022 - 1:02am #1257581

Hitster
Participant
When you have good college players staying in the NCAA as you had in the later 2000’s and even into the 2010’s you could predict the depth a bit better – Steph, Klay, Harden, Kemba, Lillard, PG13 and Kawhi etc all spent at least two years in college but in that time we also had a lot of Sophs, Jnrs and Seniors being drafted high and turning out to be busts.
2+
Posted on: Wed, 12/07/2022 - 10:12pm #1258113

JazzP
Participant
Rebooting this with an updated Mock.
Wow, does it look wildly different, there were some swings and misses in the first draft.
I’m sure this one is going to look just as wrong in 2 months.
Hopefully a bit less, since there’s actually a bit of a sample size to draw from for this year, now.
Anyways, here’s what I came up with!
1. Victor Wembanyama, France (previous mock: 1)
2. Scoot Henderson, G League (previous: 2)
3. Nick Smith, Arkansas (previous: 3)
4. Brandon Miller, Alabama (previous: 5)
5. Cason Wallace, Kentucky (previous: 17)
6. Keyonte George, Baylor (previous: 7)
7. Ausar Thompson, OTE (previous: 10)
8. G.G. Jackson, South Carolina (previous: 8)
9. Taylor Hendricks, UCF (previous: undrafted)
10. Baba Miller, Florida St. (previous: 6)
11. Cameron Whitmore, Villanova (previous: 20)
12. Gradey Dick, Kansas (previous: 22)
13. Jett Howard, Michigan (previous: 53)
14. Zach Edey, Purdue (previous: undrafted)
15. Jarace Walker, Houston (previous: 15)
16. Anthony Black, Arkansas (previous: 29)
17. Amen Thompson, OTE (previous: 4)
18. Jalen Wilson, Kansas (previous: undrafted)
19. Kel’el Ware, Oregon (previous: 34)
20. Tucker DeVries, Drake (previous: undrafted)
21. Vojin Medarevic, Serbia (previous: undrafted)
22. Maxwell Lewis, Pepperdine (previous: undrafted)
23. Leonard Miller, G League (previous: 23)
24. Kris Murray, Iowa (previous: 39)
25. Amaree Abram, Ole Miss (previous: undrafted)
26. Adam Miller, LSU (previous: undrafted)
27. Jordan Pope, Oregon St. (previous: undrafted)
28. Amari Bailey, UCLA (previous: 12)
29. James Nnaji, Spain (previous: undrafted)
30. Mark Mitchell, Duke (previous: undrafted)
31. Terquavion Smith, NC State (previous: 26)
32. Keshon Gilbert, UNLV (previous: undrafted)
33. Brice Sensabaugh, Ohio St. (previous: undrafted)
34. Ricky Council, Arkansas (previous: undrafted)
35. Colby Jones, Xavier (previous: undrafted)
36. Adama Sanogo, Connecticut (previous: undrafted)
37. Brandin Podziemski, Santa Clara (previous: undrafted)
38. Trayce Jackson-Davis, Indiana (previous: undrafted)
39. Tyrese Hunter, Texas (previous: undrafted)
40. Kyle Filipowski, Duke (previous: 31)
41. Jaylen Clark, UCLA (previous: undrafted)
42. Aly Khalifa, Charlotte (previous: undrafted)
43. Berke Buyuktuncel, Turkey (previous: 47)
44. Andre Jackson, Connecticut (previous: undrafted)
45. Julian Phillips, Tennessee (previous: undrafted)
46. Oscar Tshiebwe, Kentucky (previous: 21)
47. D’Moi Hodge, Missouri (previous: undrafted)
48. Oumar Ballo, Arizona (previous: undrafted)
49. Isaiah Wong, Miami (previous: undrafted)
50. Terrence Shannon, Illinois (previous: 41)
51. Jordan Samare, Germany (previous: undrafted)
52. Drew Timme, Gonzaga (previous: 33)
53. Taevion Kinsey, Marshall (previous: undrafted)
54. Jackson Paveletzke, Wofford (previous: undrafted)
55. Tristan Vukcevic, Serbia (previous: 54)
56. Jaime Jaquez, UCLA (previous: undrafted)
57. Tolu Smith, Mississippi St. (previous: undrafted)
58. Paulius Murauskas, Lithuania (previous: 30)
Well, more than half of this list is new names. I was definitely trying to get too cute at predicting transfers moving to good situations. All of the names that I have (for now) shed from the mock are:
Dereck Lively (previous: 9)
Dariq Whitehead (previous: 11)
Trevon Brazile (previous: 13)
Arthur Kaluma (previous: 14)
Juan Nunez (previous: 16)
Johni Broome (previous: 18)
Malcolm Cazalon (previous: 19)
Matthew Cleveland (previous: 24)
Sidy Cissoko (previous: 25)
Jordan Hawkins (previous: 27)
Dillon Mitchell (previous: 28)
Tanner Holden (previous: 32) oof
Marcus Sasser (previous: 35)
Antonio Reeves (previous: 36)
Milan Barbitch (previous: 37)
Santiago Vescovi (previous: 38)
Adem Bona (previous: 40)
DaRon Holmes (previous: 42)
Mojave King (previous: 43)
Armando Bacot (previous: 44)
Arterio Morris (previous: 45)
Isiaih Mosley (previous: 46) oof
Joe Bamisile (previous: 48) oof
K.C. Ndefo (previous: 49) oof
Tramon Mark (previous: 50)
Rayan Rupert (previous: 51)
Nijel Pack (previous: 52)
Noam Yaacov (previous: 55)
Malachi Smith (previous: 56) oof
Ousmane N’Diaye (previous: 57)
Kendric Davis (previous: 58)
Johned Walker (previous: 59) oof
2+
- Posted on: Wed, 12/07/2022 - 10:24pm #1258114
  
  JazzP
  Participant
  Also, as a quick aside–
  Vojin Medarevic and his team, KK Dynamic, are really interesting. They have no less than 4 draft eligible players in prominent roles on the team (Ilija Milijasevic, Dusan Radosavljevic, and Mihailo Boskovic also), and they are a whopping 10-1 in Serbian League play, only suffering their first defeat in their most recent game.
  Medarevic is 20 years old, comes off the bench, and absolutely does not offer any rim protection (I’d even be worried about his defense at PF).
  However, he’s also averaging just under 16 points per game (which leads the team) on absolutely ABSURD 70% / 61% / 82% shooting efficiency (on four 3-point attempts per game volume). And I mean, he rebounds.
  I’m not sure exactly what NBA teams will think about him, but to me it would feel like a HUGE oversight to dismiss his legitimacy as a prospect. There’s a lot of basketball left before the draft, I’m not sure a really hot 11 game sample size is enough to warrant a first round draft pick, either. But with no franchise at stake, that’s where I’d put him right about now.
  2+
Posted on: Thu, 12/08/2022 - 3:32am #1258119

NorrinRadd
Participant
Awesome mock! My board’s already out of date thanks to Cam Whitmore showing he can play, and Travon Brazile out for the year. Hopefully Tyrese Hunter’s ok too. Some guys you got I have moved up on my board since then too such as Amaree Abram and Keshon Gilbert. Mojave King is the real deal, so, I’d move him up personally. Definitely keep up the good mock posting, as I love big boards and mock drafts to see where other people are at. Thanks!
2+
Posted on: Thu, 12/08/2022 - 7:08am #1258120

armchairgm
Participant
I’m only ambitious enough to do lottery this early
1. Victor Wembanyama
2. Scoot Henderson
3. Nick Smith
4. Anthony Black
5. Brandon Miller
6. GG Jackson
7. Amen Thompson
8. Ausur Thompson
9. Cam Whitmore
10. Baba Miller
11. Keyonte George
12. Kris Murray
13. Grady Dick
14. Cason Wallace
2+
Posted on: Fri, 12/09/2022 - 9:00pm #1258123

Hitster
Participant
I’m still of the clear opinion we have the number 1 and 2 picks locked up so the real interest is the best of the rest. The Razorbacks backcourt of Smith and Black will be a must watch now Smith is playing and we’ll get a pretty good feel of how they compare to each other as the season goes on. Brandon MIller continues to look a legit top 5 prospect contender and GG Jackson as one of the youngest guys in the draft with his upside and athleticism would be my other guy to potentially go within the top 5.
I think whoever emerges as thye better prospect out of Smith and Black will be a top 5 lock, I’d edging to Jackson being very strong top 5. Brandon will have limited draft downside and if he slipped out of the top 5 I’d see him still going top 8. Likewise the lesser of who emerges from Smith and Black combo.
Baba Mller when he finally gets on court after the travel benefit ban is the guy who could shake up the top 5 but I’d hold him in the top 1-0 until we see howv he lookls this season.
Rayan Rupert looks the only International guy apart from Wemby who could join him in the draft lottery so might be worth keeping an eye on.
Kel’el Ware is having to play more as a PF as his team have a Snr at C so his performances need ti be watched to see what he looks like out of and when he goes to his natural position.
0
- Posted on: Fri, 12/09/2022 - 9:49pm #1258124
  
  NorrinRadd
  Participant
  After the wait, I like the little we’ve seen from Cam Whitmore. Imo he’s top 5 material.
  0
Posted on: Mon, 03/13/2023 - 12:46am #1259062

JazzP
Participant
It’s been a while! I made a few changes, it’s interesting how some things have changed and some haven’t. And some some have simply just changed back. I’m still not sold that this is the year Rayan Rupert should/will declare, or how high his stock would be, although I could just be wrong, and I do think he’d almost certainly get drafted if he does enter this year. I feel similarly about Dariq Whitehead.
I’m sure March Madness will change some storylines, and it will be nice to get a clearer sense of who’s in and who’s out, but here’s a rough list I put together to update this mock:
1. Victor Wembanyama, France (previous: 1)
2. Scoot Henderson, G League (previous: 2)
3. Brandon Miller, Alabama (previous: 4)
4. Ausar Thompson, OTE (previous: 7)
5. Amen Thompson, OTE (previous: 17)
6. Anthony Black, Arkansas (previous: 16)
7. Cam Whitmore, Villanova (previous: 11)
8. Nick Smith, Arkansas (previous: 3)
9. Jarace Walker, Houston (previous: 15)
10. Cason Wallace, Kentucky (previous: 5)
11. Amari Bailey, UCLA (previous: 28)
12. Gradey Dick, Kansas (previous: 12)
13. Jalen Hood-Schifino, Indiana (previous: undrafted)
14. Sidy Cissoko, G League (previous: undrafted)
15. Keyonte George, Baylor (previous: 6)
16. Kris Murray, Iowa (previous: 24)
17. Leonard Miller, G League (previous: 23)
18. Trayce Jackson-Davis, Indiana (previous: 38)
19. Kel’el Ware, Oregon (previous: 19)
20. Kobe Bufkin, Michigan (previous: undrafted)
21. Baba Miller, Florida St. (previous: 10)
22. G.G. Jackson, South Carolina (previous: 8)
23. Dereck Lively, Duke (previous: undrafted)
24. Bilal Coulibaly, France (previous: undrafted)
25. Judah Mintz, Syracuse (previous: undrafted)
26. Zach Edey, Purdue (previous: 14)
27. Kyle Filipowski, Duke (previous: 40)
28. Jett Howard, Michigan (previous: 13)
29. Taylor Hendricks, UCF (previous: 9)
30. Jordan Hawkins, Connecticut (previous: undrafted)
31. Noah Clowney, Alabama (previous: undrafted)
32. DaRon Holmes, Dayton (previous: undrafted)
33. Brice Sensabaugh, Ohio St. (previous: 33)
34. Julian Strawther, Gonzaga (previous: undrafted)
35. James Nnaji, Spain (previous: 29)
36. Colby Jones, Xavier (previous: 35)
37. Brandin Podziemski, Santa Clara (previous: 37)
38. Tyrese Proctor, Duke (previous: undrafted)
39. Oso Ighodaro, Marquette (previous: undrafted)
40. Michael Caicedo, Spain (previous: undrafted)
41. Kobe Brown, Missouri (previous: undrafted)
42. Tyler Kolek, Marquette (previous: undrafted)
43. Terquavion Smith, NC State (previous: 31)
44. Jaka Klobucar, Slovenia (previous: undrafted)
45. Jalen Pickett, Penn St. (previous: undrafted)
46. Terrence Shannon, Illinois (previous: 50)
47. Riley Kugel, Florida (previous: undrafted)
48. Azuolas Tubelis, Arizona (previous: undrafted)
49. Mike Miles, TCU (previous: undrafted)
50. Walter Clayton, Iona (previous: undrafted)
51. Oumar Ballo, Arizona (previous: 48)
52. Jalen Wilson, Kansas (previous: 18)
53. DeAndre Williams, Memphis (previous: undrafted)
54. Jaime Jaquez, UCLA (previous: 56)
55. Drew Timme, Gonzaga (previous: 52)
56. Dusan Radosavljevic, Serbia (previous: undrafted)
57. Boogie Ellis, USC (previous: undrafted)
58. Vojin Medarevic, Serbia (previous: 21)
Here are all of the names that I dropped from the last mock, some may return and some probably won’t:
Tucker DeVries (previous: 20)
Maxwell Lewis (previous: 22)
Amaree Abram (previous: 25)
Adam Miller (previous: 26)
Jordan Pope (previous: 27)
Mark Mitchell (previous: 30)
Keshon Gilbert (previous: 32)
Ricky Council (previous: 34)
Adama Sanogo (previous: 36)
Tyrese Hunter (previous: 39)
Jaylen Clark (previous: 41)
Aly Khalifa (previous: 42)
Berke Buyuktuncel (previous: 43)
Andre Jackson (previous: 44)
Julian Phillips (previous: 45)
Oscar Tshiebwe (previous: 46)
D’Moi Hodge (previous: 47)
Isaiah Wong (previous: 49)
Jordan Samare (previous: 51)
Taevion Kinsey (previous: 53)
Jackson Paveletzke (previous: 54)
Tristan Vukcevic (previous: 55)
Tolu Smith (previous: 57)
Paulius Murauskas (previous: 58)
2+
Posted on: Wed, 04/26/2023 - 10:57pm #1259630

JazzP
Participant
Alright, now that the Early Entry Deadline has passed, I made up a mock I feel pretty decent about at the moment. I’m sure the combine will change a few draft stocks still, but I like the way things are starting to round out.
I did a mock lottery and (sort of) accounted for team needs/goals, but since the real lottery hasn’t happened yet that was probably a silly exercise– though I don’t think the prospects that are likely lottery picks are changing much regardless at this stage, it strikes me that the most that would change is a couple of spots in the order.
1. Charlotte Hornets – Victor Wembanyama, France (previous: 1)
2. Orlando Magic – Scoot Henderson, G League (previous: 2)
3. Detroit Pistons – Brandon Miller, Alabama (previous: 3)
4. Portland Trailblazers – Ausar Thompson, Overtime Elite (previous: 4)
5. Houston Rockets – Amen Thompson, Overtime Elite (previous: 5)
6. San Antonio Spurs – Jarace Walker, Houston (previous: 9)
7. Indiana Pacers – Nick Smith, Arkansas (previous: 8)
8. Washington Wizards – Anthony Black, Arkansas (previous: 6)
9. Utah Jazz – Cam Whitmore, Villanova (previous: 7)
10. Dallas Mavericks – Taylor Hendricks, UCF (previous: 29)
11. Orlando Magic – G.G. Jackson, South Carolina (previous: 22)
12. Oklahoma City Thunder – Cason Wallace, Kentucky (previous: 10)
13. Toronto Raptors – Gradey Dick, Kansas (previous: 12)
14. New Orleans Pelicans – Jalen Hood-Schifino, Indiana (previous: 13)
15. Atlanta Hawks – Keyonte George, Baylor (previous: 15)
16. Utah Jazz – Amari Bailey, UCLA (previous: 11)
17. Los Angeles Lakers – Jett Howard, Michigan (previous: 28)
18. Miami Heat – Trayce Jackson-Davis, Indiana (previous: 18)
19. Golden State Warriors – Dereck Lively, Duke (previous: 23)
20. Houston Rockets – Dariq Whitehead, Duke (previous: undrafted)
21. Brooklyn Nets – Jordan Walsh, Arkansas (previous: undrafted)
22. Brooklyn Nets – Terquavion Smith, NC State (previous: 43)
23. Portland Trailblazers – Leonard Miller, G League (previous: 17)
24. Sacramento Kings – Julian Phillips, Tennessee (previous: undrafted)
25. Memphis Grizzlies – Colby Jones, Xavier (previous: 36)
26. Indiana Pacers – Nikola Durisic, Serbia (previous: undrafted)
27. Charlotte Hornets – Kris Murray, Iowa (previous: 16)
28. Utah Jazz – Sidy Cissoko, G League (previous: 14)
29. Indiana Pacers – Adama Sanogo, Connecticut (previous: undrafted)
30. Los Angeles Clippers – Judah Mintz, Syracuse (previous: 25)
31. Detroit Pistons – Jordan Hawkins, Connecticut (previous: 30)
32. San Antonio Spurs – James Nnaji, Spain (previous: 35)
33. Boston Celtics – Maxwell Lewis, Pepperdine (previous: undrafted)
34. Charlotte Hornets – Brice Sensabaugh, Ohio St (previous: 33)
35. Oklahoma City Thunder – Brandin Podziemski, Santa Clara (previous: 37)
36. Orlando Magic – Rayan Rupert, Australia (previous: undrafted)
37. Oklahoma City Thunder – Dillon Mitchell, Texas (previous: undrafted)
38. Sacramento Kings – Noah Clowney, Alabama (previous: 31)
39. Charlotte Hornets – Kobe Bufkin, Michigan (previous: 20)
40. Denver Nuggets – Arthur Kaluma, Creighton (previous: undrafted)
41. Charlotte Hornets – DaRon Holmes, Dayton (previous: 32)
42. Washington Wizards – Drew Timme, Gonzaga (previous: 55)
43. Portland Trailblazers – Adem Bona, UCLA (previous: undrafted)
44. San Antonio Spurs – Bilal Coulibaly, France (previous: 24)
45. Memphis Grizzlies – Emoni Bates, Eastern Washington (previous: undrafted)
46. Atlanta Hawks – Julian Strawther, Gonzaga (previous: 34)
47. Los Angeles Lakers – Isaiah Wong, Miami (previous: undrafted)
48. Los Angeles Clippers – Jaylen Clark, UCLA (previous: undrafted)
49. Cleveland Cavaliers – Armel Traore, France (previous: undrafted)
50. Indiana Pacers – Zach Edey, Purdue (previous: 26)
51. Brooklyn Nets – Andre Jackson, Connecticut (previous: undrafted)
52. Phoenix Suns – Kobe Brown, Missouri (previous: 41)
53. Minnesota Timberwolves – Coleman Hawkins, Illinois (previous: undrafted)
54. Sacramento Kings – Sir’Jabari Rice, Texas (previous: undrafted)
55. Indiana Pacers – Jaime Jaquez, UCLA (previous: 54)
56. Memphis Grizzles – Jalen Pickett, Penn St (previous: 45)
57. Washington Wizards – Michael Caicedo, Spain (previous: 40)
58. Milwaukee Bucks – Jalen Wilson, Kansas (previous: 52)
Dropped from the last mock:
Kel’el Ware (previous: 19), did not declare
Baba Miller (previous: 21), did not declare
Kyle Filipowski (previous: 27), did not declare
Tyrese Proctor (previous: 38), did not declare
Oso Ighodaro (previous: 39), did not declare
Tyler Kolek (previous: 42), did not declare
Jaka Klobucar (previous: 44), did not declare
Terrence Shannon (previous: 46)
Riley Kugel (previous: 47), did not declare
Azuolas Tubelis (previous: 48)
Mike Miles (previous: 49)
Walter Clayton (previous: 50), did not declare
Oumar Ballo (previous: 51), did not declare
DeAndre Williams (previous: 53)
Dusan Radosavljevic (previous: 56)
Boogie Ellis (previous: 57), did not declare
Vojin Medarevic (previous: 58), did not declare
1+
- Posted on: Wed, 04/26/2023 - 11:17pm #1259631
  
  NorrinRadd
  Participant
  Only prospect I’d definitively move would be Jordan Hawkins up. I like how you put Ausar ahead of Amen. A little bold but very good mock. Thanks for sharing!!!
  1+
  - Posted on: Thu, 04/27/2023 - 8:30am #1259632
    
    JazzP
    Participant
    I was definitely a bit higher on Ausar a bit earlier on. I think it’s a fair take that Amen probably does have the slightly higher ceiling after all but I mean I do think they’re pretty darn comparable. I think Ausar is a slightly better shooter and defender while Amen is a better passer, though both are skilled passers and great defenders (at least at OTE) and still a bit streaky as shooters.
    In this case I just thought, both being pretty similar, Ausar was perhaps the better fit for Portland, silly as it is to even really consider that at this stage.
    I certainly wouldn’t consider it a guarantee to see Amen go first, but I get why it’s more likely than not.
    Hawkins is from my area, I’m rooting for him and I think you’re right that he’s almost certainly going in the first round. He seems like a real canny shooter, but I’m not really sold that he’s a fully dynamic on-ball scorer or really making statements with much of anything else to be a full 1st guarantee. I’d love to be wrong, it sure happens enough (its bound to if you take a lot of guesses!!)
    I feel like Terquavion Smith’s shockingly quick development as a passer made him slightly preferable as a prospect to me in spite of the streaky shooting, but I know Hawkins has been coveted by a lot of scouts- and winning that championship sure won’t hurt, so I absolutely buy that I’m undervaluing him on this take.
    1+
Posted on: Thu, 04/27/2023 - 8:51am #1259633

Hitster
Participant
Amen and Asur are between 4 and 6 and the majority of mocks I have seen so for someone to flip them around to have Asur go first is a perfectly reasonable call IMO. Heck of a lot could depend what the needs of the teams picking at 4 onwards are and on some of those teams Asur may well be a better fit than Amen and if that is at maybe 4 or 5 then they could flip order.
I don’t see Amen dropping below 6 really so Asur would need to go pretty high. Asur I’d expect to be gone well within the top 10 too.
I agree Hawkins is a bit low and think Sanogo is a bit high. I like Nnjai at 32 as that would be one of those good stashers the Spurs have sometimes done although I think this draft is more about ranking players than actual team needs.
2+
Posted on: Fri, 06/16/2023 - 10:08pm #1260675

JazzP
Participant
I think this is the final version I have for this year’s draft!
ROUND 1
1. San Antonio Spurs – Victor Wembanyama, France (previous: 1)
2. Charlotte Hornets – Brandon Miller, Alabama (previous: 3)
3. Portland Trailblazers – Scoot Henderson, G League (previous: 2)
4. Houston Rockets – Anthony Black, Arkansas (previous: 8)
5. Detroit Pistons – Ausar Thompson, OTE (previous: 4)
6. Orlando Magic – Amen Thompson, OTE (previous: 5)
7. Indiana Pacers – Cam Whitmore, Villanova (previous: 9)
8. Washington Wizards – Keyonte George, Baylor (previous: 15)
9. Utah Jazz – Cason Wallace, Kentucky (previous: 12)
10. Dallas Mavericks – Jarace Walker, Houston (previous: 6)
11. Orlando Magic – Taylor Hendricks, UCF (previous: 10)
12. Oklahoma City Thunder – Gradey Dick, Kansas (previous: 13)
13. Toronto Raptors – Jalen Hood-Schifino, Indiana (previous: 14)
14. New Orleans Pelicans – Amari Bailey, UCLA (previous: 16)
15. Atlanta Hawks – Nick Smith, Arkansas (previous: 7)
16. Utah Jazz – Leonard Miller, G League (previous: 23)
17. Los Angeles Lakers – Jordan Hawkins, Connecticut (previous: 31)
18. Miami Heat – Trayce Jackson-Davis, Indiana (previous: 18)
19. Golden State Warriors – Dereck Lively, Duke (previous: 19)
20. Houston Rockets – Bilal Coulibaly, France (previous: 44)
21. Brooklyn Nets – Noah Clowney, Alabama (previous: 38)
22. Brooklyn Nets – Jett Howard, Michigan (previous: 17)
23. Portland Trailblazers – G.G. Jackson, South Carolina (previous: 11)
24. Sacramento Kings – Kris Murray, Iowa (previous: 27)
25. Memphis Grizzlies – Kobe Bufkin, Michigan (previous: 39)
26. Indiana Pacers – Rayan Rupert, New Zealand (previous: 36)
27. Charlotte Hornets – Tristan Vukcevic, Serbia (previous: undrafted)
28. Utah Jazz – Olivier-Maxence Prosper (previous: undrafted)
29. Indiana Pacers – Brice Sensabaugh, Ohio St. (previous: 34)
30. Los Angeles Clippers – Sidy Cissoko, G League (previous: 28)
ROUND 2
31. Detroit Pistons – Dariq Whitehead, Duke (previous: 20)
32. Indiana Pacers – Kobe Brown, Missouri (previous: 52)
33. San Antonio Spurs – Jaime Jaquez, UCLA (previous: 55)
34. Charlotte Hornets – Brandin Podziemski, Santa Clara (previous: 35)
35. Boston Celtics – Andre Jackson, Connecticut (previous: 51)
36. Orlando Magic – Julian Strawther, Gonzaga (previous: 46)
37. Denver Nuggets – Jordan Walsh, Arkansas (previous: 21)
38. Sacramento Kings – James Nnaji, Spain (previous: 32)
39. Charlotte Hornets – Julian Phillips, Tennessee (previous: 24)
40. Denver Nuggets – Terquavion Smith, NC State (previous: 22)
41. Charlotte Hornets – Maxwell Lewis, Pepperdine (previous: 33)
42. Washington Wizards – Emoni Bates, Eastern Michigan (previous: 45)
43. Portland Trailblazers – Jaylen Clark, UCLA (previous: 48)
44. San Antonio Spurs – Colby Jones, Xavier (previous: 25)
45. Memphis Grizzlies – Craig Porter, Wichita St (previous: undrafted)
46. Atlanta Hawks – Vincent Valerio-Bodon, Hungary (previous: undrafted)
47. Los Angeles Lakers – Jordan Miller, Miami (previous: undrafted)
48. Los Angeles Clippers – Marcus Sasser, Houston (previous: undrafted)
49. Cleveland Cavaliers – Keyontae Johnson, Kansas St (previous: undrafted)
50. Oklahoma City Thunder – Adama Sanogo, Connecticut (previous: 29)
51. Brooklyn Nets – Seth Lundy, Penn St (previous: undrafted)
52. Phoenix Suns – Nadir Hifi, France (previous: undrafted)
53. Minnesota Timberwolves – Isaiah Wong, Miami (previous: 47)
54. Sacramento Kings – Ben Sheppard, Belmont (previous: undrafted)
55. Indiana Pacers – Oscar Tshiebwe, Kentucky (previous: undrafted)
56. Memphis Grizzlies – Azuolas Tubelis, Arizona (previous: undrafted)
57. Washington Wizards – Jalen Pickett, Penn St (previous: 56)
58. Milwaukee Bucks – Enzo Andre Shahrvin, France (previous: undrafted)
Dropped out from last mock:
Nikola Durisic (previous: 26), withdrew
Judah Mintz (previous: 30), withdrew
Dillon Mitchell (previous: 37), withdrew
Arthur Kaluma (previous: 40), withdrew
DaRon Holmes (previous: 41), withdrew
Drew Timme (previous: 42)
Adem Bona (previous: 43), withdrew
Armel Traore (previous: 49), withdrew
Zach Edey (previous: 50), withdrew
Coleman Hawkins (previous: 53), withdrew
Sir’Jabari Rice (previous: 54)
Michael Caicedo (previous: 57), withdrew
Jalen Wilson (previous: 58)
1+
- Posted on: Fri, 06/16/2023 - 10:21pm #1260676
  
  NorrinRadd
  Participant
  Solid mock. I like the Vincent Valerio-Bodon sleeper prospect. I don’t think Lively will slip that far atm. He has high demand in this draft. My biggest surprise from the drops would be Jalen Wilson, but it’s not impossible.
  1+
  - Posted on: Sat, 06/17/2023 - 5:07am #1260680
    
    JazzP
    Participant
    I don’t really know what to make of Valerio-Bodon. He isn’t young and I don’t think he’s particularly high-ceiling, he seems like a solid 3-D kind of role player. But I saw that he had worked out with a LOT of teams prior to the draft so I figure there very well might be some interest and as a 6’9″ wing who can probably end up playing 2-4 in the NBA if he pans out, I figured there might be cause to be optimistic about his draft stock.
    I ‘m also taking my guess at considering what I imagine a team’s objective from the draft even is; like, some might need a specific type of player, some might just need the best player available, and I think some don’t really want to take on another contract right now and the best situation for them is to opt for a draft-and-stash pick and just determine who’s the best player to bet on from THAT pool. I don’t think this year’s international class is that strong (unlike next year’s which I think is nuts lol), so I think it’s more likely that Valerio-Bodon has his name called simply for the opportunity of the situation.
    That was mostly the reasoning in projecting Enzo Andre Shahrvin, as well. I think his traditional big skillset and lack of a shot is not particularly enticing, especially for someone who is 6’7″– I do think there are a few better prospects from the college ranks that I have going undrafted (like Jalen Wilson or Toumani Camara). But in fairness to Shahrvin, he did at least fulfill that skillset at a high level at FIBA and in France’s top league as a teenager last year, with elite FG% and rebounding rates and a solid block rate- and I think he does have the frame to contest as a potential NBA big if he continues to get better. I think he’s just good enough to be a viable draft-and-stash, and if he does get his name called, it’s probably for the luxury of maintaining prospect rights without needing to use the roster spot for a while.
    I’ve been making versions of this along the way and I keep flip-flopping on having Jalen Wilson in or out. He’s definitely the first name on the list of people I’d expect to have missed on and I would guess he’ll probably have a 2-way contract (perhaps even if/when he does get drafted).
    I do think this is ignoring some buzz about what teams are looking for/who they’re interested in for this year’s draft also, so I’m sure there are some swings and misses. I just like to theorycraft.
    1+
Author
Posts

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.