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  • #1262298
    NorrinRaddNorrinRadd
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    Still way too early, so I still am only taking everything with a grain of salt, but this is where I’m at a month later…

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    Alexandre Sarr – PF/C – France
    Stephon Castle – G – UConn
    Nikola Topic – G – Serbia
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    Ja’Kobe Walter – G – Baylor
    Ron Holland – F – GLeague
    Matas Buzelis – F – Gleague
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    Zaccharie Risacher – F – France
    Aaron Bradshaw – C – Kentucky
    Donovan Clingan – C – UConn
    Kel’el Ware – C – Indiana
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    Cody Williams – G/SF – Colorado
    Bub Carrington – G – Pitt
    Isaiah Collier – G – USC
    Tyrese Proctor – PG – Duke
    Aday Mara – C – UCLA
    Milan Momcilovic – F – Iowa State
    Izan Almansa – PF/C – Spain
    Melvin Ajinca – F – France
    Tidjane Salaun – F – France
    Zvonimir Ivisic – C – Kentucky
    Pacome Dadiet – SG/SF – Germany
    Yves Missi – C – Baylor
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    Kobe Johnson – G/SF – USC
    Baba Miller – F – Florida State
    Oso Ighodaro – F – Marquette
    Judah Mintz – G – Syracuse
    Garwey Dual – G – Providence
    Kwame Evans, Jr. – F – Indiana
    Reed Sheppard – G – Kentucky
    Justin Edwards – SG/SF – Kentucky
    Robert Dillingham – PG – Kentucky
    Scottie Middleton – SG/SF – Ohio State
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    Juan Nunez – PG – Spain
    Grant Nelson – PF/C – Alabama
    Kyle Filipowski – C – Duke
    Jared McCain – G – Duke
    Thierry Darlan – G – GLeague
    Riley Kugel – G – Florida
    Trey Alexander – G – Creighton
    AJ Johnson – G – Australia
    Trentyn Flowers – G/F – Australia
    Bronny James – SG/SF – USC
    DJ Wagner – G – Kentucky
    Berke Buyuktuncel – PF/C – UCLA
    Dillon Mitchell – F – Texas
    Mark Armstrong – PG – Villanova
    DaRon Holmes – PF/C – Dayton
    Trevon Brazile – C – Arkansas
    Baye Fall – PF – Arkansas
    Ryan Dunn – SG/F – Virginia
    Ajay Mitchell – G – UC Santa Barbara
    Johnell Davis – G – Florida Atlantic
    Jaedon LeDee – PF/C- Sand Diego State
    Keion Brooks, Jr. – SG/SF – Washington
    Kam Jones – G – Marquette
    Tristen Newton – G – UConn
    Ryan Kalkbrenner – C – Creighton
    Dalton Knecht – G/SF – Tennessee
    Elmarko Jackson – G – Kansas
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    Nachlan Olbrich – F/C – Australia
    Dillon Jones – SG/F – Weber State
    PJ Haggerty – G – Tulsa
    Tucker DeVries – SG/SF – Drake
    JJ Starling – G – Syracuse
    Michael Ajayi – G – Pepperdine
    Milos Uzan – G – Oklahoma
    Kevin McCullar – SG/SF – Kansas
    Xavier Booker – PF/C – Michigan State
    Coen Carr – SG/F – Michigan State
    Reece Beekman – G – Virginia
    Jarin Stevenson – F – Alabama
    Ariel Hukporti – C – Germany
    Zach Edey – C – Purdue
    Tyler Smith – PF/C – GLeague
    Babacar Sane – F – GLeague
    Omaha Biliew – PF/C – Iowa State
    Aidan Mahaney – G – St. Mary’s
    Caleb Foster – G – Duke
    Andrej Stojakovic – SG/SF – Stanford
    Bobi Klintman – F – Australia
    Dailyn Swain – – Xavier
    KJ Lewis – F – Arizona
    Carey Booth – PF/C – Notre Dame
    Deshawn Harris-Smith – SG – Maryland
    Dennis Evans – C – Louisville
    Tyon Grant-Foster – SG/SF – Grand Canyon
    Desmond Claude – SG/SF – Xavier
    Tristan Da Silva – F – Colorado
    Alex Karaban – PF – UConn
    Adama Bal – G/SF – Santa Clara
    Tyler Kolek – G – Marquette
    Javian McCollum – G – Oklahoma
    Jaxson Robinson – SG/SF – BYU
    Zacharie Perrin – F – Illinois
    Lucas Ugoin – SG -France
    Alex Toohey – SG/SF – Australia
    Ruben Prey – – Portugal
    Ulrich Chomche – C – Cameroon
    Malik Reneau – F – Indiana
    Makenzie Mgbako – PF/C – Indiana
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    Elliot Cadeau – – UNC
    Hunter Sallis – G – Wake Forest
    Johnny Furphy – F – Kansas
    Payton Sandfort – F – Iowa
    Sean Stewart – PF – Duke
    Roddy Gayle, Jr. – SG – Ohio State
    Jalen Bridges – PF/C – Baylor
    Jamir Watkins – SG/SF – Florida State
    Harrison Ingram – F – UNC
    Matthew Cleveland – F – Miami(FL)
    Wade Taylor IV – G – Texas A&M
    Micah Handlogten – C – Florida
    Walter Clayton, Jr. – G – Florida
    Bryce Hopkins – F – Providence
    Devin Carter – G – Providence
    Zhuric Phelps – SG – SMU
    Antonio Reeves – SG/SF – Kentucky
    Babacar Sane – SF – GLeague
    Quinten Post – C – Boston College
    Erik Reynolds II – G – St. Joseph’s
    Bruce Thornton – G – Ohio State
    Joel Soriano – C – St. John’s
    Milos Uzan – G – Oklahoma
    Otega Oweh – SG/SF – Oklahoma
    Jaedon Ledee – PF/C – San Diego State
    AJ Storr – SG/SF – Wisconsin
    Jan Vide – SG/SF – UCLA
    Jackson Shelstad – PG – Oregon
    Jaylon Tyson – SF – Cal
    Zeke Mayo – G – South Dakota State
    Kylan Boswell – G – Arizona
    Adem Bona – C – UCLA
    Alijah Martin – SG – Florida Atlantic
    Terrence Shannon, Jr. – SG/SF – Illinois
    Taran Armstrong – PG – Australia
    Tyler Burton – F – Villanova
    Great Osobor – PF/C Utah State
    Isaiah Stevens – G – Colorado State
    Tramon Mark – SG/SF – Arkansas
    Branden Carlson – PF/C – Utah
    Aaron Estrada – G – Alabama
    RayJ Dennis – G – Baylor
    PJ Hall – PF/C – Clemson
    Clarence Daniels – SG/SF – New Hampshire
    Baylor Scheierman – G/SF – Creighton
    Nikola Djurisic – G/SF – Serbia
    Coleman Hawkins – PF/C – Illinois
    Caleb Love – G – Arizona
    Jamal Shead – G – Houston
    LJ Cryer – G – Houston
    Allen Flanigan – SG/SF – Ole’ Miss
    Eric Gaines – G – UAB
    Nolan Hickman – G – Gonzaga
    Micah Peavy – SG/SF – TCU
    Jaylen Forbes – SG – Tulane
    Jesse Edwards – C – West Virginia
    Nate Bittle – C – Oregon
    Layden Blocker – PG – Arkansas
    Adou Thiero – F – Kentucky
    Tyler Harris – SG/SF – Portland
    Kyshawn George – SF – Miami(FL)
    RJ Luis – SG/SF – St. John’s
    Blake Buchanan – PF/C Virginia
    Aden Holloway – PG – Auburn
    Rasheer Fleming – PF – St. Joseph’s
    Jahmir Young – PG – Maryland
    Terrance Arceneaux – SG/SF – Houston

    Would love to see what others’ big boards are on this site. Feel free to post yours or even comment on mine if you like…

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  • #1262302
    NorrinRaddNorrinRadd
    NorrinRadd
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    Oops, for some reason I never switched Kwame Evans, Jr.’s school to Oregon… but you get the picture. Killer defender is a possible riser.

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  • #1262303
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    I havent watched any basketball this year on any level aside from a few NBA games. What can you tell me about this years class?

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    • #1262309
      NorrinRaddNorrinRadd
      NorrinRadd
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      Yeah, underwhelming class. No clear cut stand out prospects. Probably a solid top 30ish class but not great. Put it this way, I’m betting on an injure plagued player to be in my top tier at least so far from a combination of his HS video and early production before getting hurt again. Could be another Nick Smith situation for all I know. Feels a bit weird this year. I haven’t watched as much college as last year, but overall it’s because I’ve been watching more NBA too unlike last year. Wemby brought some excitement to the league.
      Guys to watch in the draft this year are playing more internationally imo. Topic’ is a good guy to look out for. Lots of the prospects in this class will probably be drafted for “fit” aka specialty players. Otherwise, yeah BTPH broke down a grit of the college class pretty well.

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  • #1262308
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    The NCAA first-year eligible class is underwhelming. Some are in lesser roles (Stephon Castle, Caleb Foster, Aday Mara, Garwey Dual, Elmarko Jackson, Elliot Cadeau, and Mackenzie Mgbako). Some are either on the fringe of or outside the rotation (Omaha Beliew and Xavier Booker). The Kentucky team seems to live off the reputation that their guys are all NBA bound, but Justin Edwards gives off huge Cam Reddish vibes. He looks the part, but most nights is not helpful. Zvonimir Ivisic has not seen the court due to eligibility questions. Aaron Bradshaw has played four games. He had a nice game against Penn. The returnees to Duke, Proctor and Filipowski, didn’t take the developmental step one would have hoped. Their freshmen don’t play meaningful roles. Oh, and the team has been underwhelming.

    Ja’Kobe Walter of Baylor has not had an especially difficult slate of opponents so far, but has had a nice season. He is a two-way 6’5″ wing who can shoot. Would he be a nice player to have? Yes. If you are a Piston, Blazer, Wizard, or Spur fan, is he the kind of guy you think can help turn their franchise around? No. His teammate Yves Missi looks the part, but is really raw. I think a team would take him if he enters, but they wouldn’t be able to use him because of how raw he is. He is the kind of lottery pick where the Wizards present him with a Go-Go jersey on draft night. Isaiah Collier is playing a lot, and for the most part well, for a really underachieving USC team. He feels like a throwback to the kind of point guards who played when there was handchecking. He is a big power point guard who plays below the rim. It makes me wonder about him. It does not feel ideal in a league where teams might just put a wing on him and make him deal with the length. I watched Bill Walton’s broadcast of the Oregon-USC game, and kind of agreed with the sentiment of Walton that Jackson Shelstad was the freshman stealing the show. The only problem there is Shelstad is 6’0″ and that is a limiting factor when thinking about the draft. Kwame Evans has been able to get more minutes with N’Faly Dante and Nate Bittle out, but even in a game where he was feeling it offensively, he was giving up a ton on defense. USC could have won that game had they just attacked the basket, but fell behind big early on because they thought they could outshoot them. On offense and the glass, he reminds you of Jaren Jackson Jr, but not on the defensive end, which is probably not what you wanted.

    I also think the breakout of PJ Hall is flying so far under the radar it hurts my head. Everything people think Kyle Filipowski can be as an NBA prospect PJ Hall is. He is 6’10” and can score from all three levels. I think Clemson is the best team in the ACC, and he is a big reason why. In the past, he hasn’t always been healthy. If he stays healthy, and the doctors give the thumbs up in the predraft process, he is lottery talent for this draft. I have really started to believe that there is a chance the majority of the lottery comes from outside of college basketball, but I think he is a name that should emerge in the coming months. Also, if I am right about Hall and Clemson in total, then the other guy on their team who could gather draft steam would be sophomore Chauncey Wiggins (and the NBA has gone without a Chauncey for too long). He is long 6’10” wing, athletic, and has really emerged as a major player for the Tigers over the past five games. In those games, he is playing 28 minutes per, 13 PPG, 40% from three on 5 attempts per. It is definitely too early on him, but I am bullish on that team this year so I might as well be early.

    I think there are a number of older 3-and-D wing candidates who should be able to be players to watch. David Jones of Memphis is probably a first team All-American player if there wasn’t a bias towards the big conference players. Memphis has He is a 6’6″ wing who really shoot it, sets the tone for the best team Penny Hardaway has had at Memphis. The Tigers have wins at Missouri and Texas A&M, Michigan, Arkansas, VCU, Virginia, and Vanderbilt. The American might not be a big league without Houston and Cincy, but Memphis has beaten good teams. College basketball does not have ten teams with their body of work or quality of roster. Blake Hinson of Pitt had a health issue that kept him out of two years, so he is an older prospect. He is, however, 6’7″ with good athleticism and can stroke it from deep. If he doesn’t get drafted, I expect that he will walk away from draft night with a two-way, though I would take him. Harrison Ingram seems much more at ease in his role at UNC than he was at Stanford. Kevin McCullar is shooting 40% from three, but it still feels as though opponents are completely comfortable with him shooting them. Maybe that changes over the course of the season, but it gives me pause to get too high on him.

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  • #1262310
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    I think your board levels are spot on as always Norrin and great points as always from BTPH.

    I’ve always been a big Aday Mara fan but he isn’t doing much at UCLA. Clingan is now out injured but he’ll still always have his size when he declares. So could one of these be next year’s Dereck Lively who didn’t do much in college but has already become an NBA starter.

    At the moment I’d have to have Sarr and Topic as my top two choices with Matas Buzelis next.

    A lot of teams who will be drafting high already have had recent high picks but when teams can count their wins on one hand I do think it has to be BPA. But for the likes of Detroit there is no clear cut franchise changer, the Spurs are also struggling but they do have Wemby already so have the key cornerstone in place.

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