[OhCanada-Participant]

Paul comes back so they get off Beals contract. Six 2nd round picks. A couple pick swaps which will mean nothing because Washington will not be better in Phoenix in the next 10 years. And Landry Shamet who’s lived in more properties then monopoly board.

Beal, Booker and Durant. I think they just need someone to score and then they will be set…thats all theyre missin.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Suns only have 5 players. Payne, Beal, Booker, Durant and Ayton. Well above the salary cap. Another trade is coming. Seems like Ayton is being shopped.

I would look to trade Booker for depth. Nuggets won the championship because of additions like Bruce Brown, KCP, Aaron Gordon and Jeff Green. Go get yourself a package like that for Booker and some draft capitol.

[NorrinRaddParticipant]

Booker is younger than Durant and Beal, and at this point in their careers, Booker could be there most important player. It’s too bad, the Suns blew all their true capitol on maybe the biggest pre Madonna in the league – KD. (He’s not even that far off as a player compared to the guy the Suns got rid of to get him – Mikal Bridges.) Now they have another pre Madonna in Beal. Booker is the true Suns player. I doubt I’d trade Booker. It would take a lot. Beal though, if the Suns could get anything like depth they should.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Thats why they have to trade him. He’s the only one with any value. You aren’t moving Durant or Beal. They haven’t been able to trade Ayton. And they aren’t winning with these 5 players and a bunch of G-League and veteran minimum players. Trading Booker is the only way they win.

[NorrinRaddParticipant]

That’s a good point… but then they could be really screwed if that plan back fired. Lol! But if they can somehow get like 8 first round picks for him… They shouldn’t have given up a million draft picks for what they have. Beal has good value though. It’s just that “I’m too good for this league…” type of attitude with both Beal and Durant is a bad recipe. Not sure they can build around that. Beal and Durant to me have character flags. I don’t say that about many players either, but both have scape-goated others in the past. Not cool for me. It’s one thing to hold your teammates accountable like a leader would, but it’s another to oddly have a problem with some teammate on top of that in the public eye too. I think they can possibly trade Beal and Durant still. Just wouldn’t get back what they traded for Durant. Trading him would make them look bad too. Beal though could be worth a high draft pick and draft capital somewhere. There are suckers out there and championship chasers like the Heat still if it looks like it’s not working out. Devin Booker could get traded. He could also be the dude that makes them pay for it for doing so. I could see them somehow succeeding for a year by winning the championship too. Just don’t like the odds.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Yeah they already screwed themselves. If they don’t trade Booker and they don’t win a championship he’s gonna leave anyways because they have nothing to build around him after Durant retires. They shouldn’t have traded for Durant. Booker, Bridges and Ayton was a solid core you keep that group together for another 7 years and you gotta think they win at some point. Now they have no assets, the caps maxed out and the team is not built. They just have a bunch of stars. Its championship or bust.

[NorrinRaddParticipant]

Yeah, totally agree. Wizards should have given Orlando, OKC, Memphis, or some team with a slew of picks a call. This could have been a potential great haul. Instead they just roster dumped Beal. The kicker though is that imo Beal isn’t a great fit. He should be in theory by the way the team’s chess pieces operate, but too many egos on the Suns. Beal wants to score and be the man. Durant thinks he’s the best in the world still. He is really for only like 3 games a year. This to me is a silly trade both ways. If the Suns pan out though, it’s a possible steal. Not sure they will win a championship though. Beal and Durant don’t play defense. They both have these big egos that want to be the reason the Suns are champs. This is still Devin Booker’s team. If the egos are in check, its possible they can ride that momentum to the title. For some reason, I doubt that happens. I got a feeling they will probably win one playoff game next year and then get ousted again. Neither team is definitively better than they were. Suns are still constructing their roster though, so maybe they have a shot. It’s a long shot but it CAN happen. The trade ultimately though is whack. If I’m both teams, I try flipping both CP3 or Beal again. Either way CP3 is getting up there and Beal is a tough guy to be a teammate of. Both teams are constructed poorly.

[Pro 1Participant]

Beal has a no trade clause in his contract…he wasn’t going to OKC, Orlando, Memphis or any other team no matter how many FRPs they may have offered Washington. Beal was going to get traded to the team of his choosing and Washington had to work within those particulars in order to manifest any trade.

[OhCanada-Participant]

If your getting back 6 picks which range from 50th to 60th and bad contracts then you hold out. They jumped the gun and lost negotiations,

Its funny how the CP3 trade to the Lakers got vetoeed way back when yet nowadays we have a trade like this go through no problem.

[BothTeamsPlayedHard-Participant]

Washington has a new front office with Michael Winger and Will Dawkins. Obviously, they want a fresh start. They should have valued him enough to hold out for more. It is not as if Beal is a guy who was make everybody miserable by being there. It was not a trade that had to be done now. Teams always value proven talent more in mid-season than the summer where there is a greater fear of contracts mixed with the hope form the mystery box of draft picks. Call it what it is. It was selfishly done by the front office to ensure maximum runway for what is to come. Tearing down is always easier than building up. Sadly, the hope mongering business has never been more popular. It is amazing to me that a narrative gets created and regurgitated so much that people miss what happens right in front of them. The Nuggets just won a title without a top 6 (tanking spots) player outside of Jeff Green in his journeyman phase. Last year’s Warriors only had a reclamation project in Andrew Wiggins, Otto Porter in the Jeff Green role, and James Wiseman in the Darko role as early lottery picks. The Bucks only having a single lottery pick in the form of a completely remade Brook Lopez (who went 10th and originally signed with the Bucks for $3 million for one year) when they won it in 2021. Also, the 2019 Raptors who by the playoffs did not have a single former lottery pick on their roster. It is only four of the past five winners, and it is not as if Laker Exceptionalism is a term that has ever been thrown around before about it’s ability to get stars to come their way. Sure, the 76ers who loudly boasted that tanking was the only way to get the players necessary to win titles, and have proceeded to tank for four whole years only to be knocked out of the playoffs in round 1 or 2 the past six. Nobody on ESPN will ever let us forget that the Nuggets, Bucks, Heat, and Celtics underwent much more traditional rebuilds at the same point or shortly there after, and had all either won the title or played for them. It is because team building isn’t easy, and environments for learning and development matter.

We will see what the Wizards roster ends up looking like. I don’t love their options at #8. It sounds like the consensus thinking is Anthony Black, but some people get more excited about a turnover prone point guard who showed a limited ability to make jump shots than I do. If they dumped Bradley Beal just to get off the contract, then they aren’t going to try to keep Porzingis or Kuzma. What are they going to get in a sign-and-trade? They need to get something. They are in a position where Corey Kispert is going to be getting 15-20 shots per night. It probably means he will eventually get a big second contract, but does it mean anything as to whether this rebuild amounts to anything?

[HitsterParticipant]

I must admit I think as a Suns fan we gave up too much for KD maybe we could have kept Bridges and put CP3 into that trade but if we hadn’t used the picks on KD they may have gone on Beal. The NTC on Beal has worked in our favour as Beal may only have had a few teams he was keen to go to. The Heat were mentioned and I’d have thought they would have been as appealing as the Suns and may have had a better package to offer.

But Washington might not have wanted to deal to their own conference. OKC have SGA and Giddey so BB wouldn’t have been a fit there. Orlando might have had a nice package and even Brooklyn wit h Simmons and Suns picks but again its same Conference and whether BB would sign off the trade.

The fun team could have been the Spurs would BB have turned down being the running mate of Wemby?

[khaled_a_dParticipant]

Weird trade, Beal agent played it great tbh

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