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  • #1260536
    NorrinRaddNorrinRadd
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    Looks like he a very late withdrawal after all. He’s a projected lottery now in the 2024 draft per Shams… smh – weird turn of events.

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  • #1260543
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    sweaterflex
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    Smart move, next year’s draft class looks weaker and hasn’t proved much to indicate he deserves a guaranteed contract.

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    • #1260549
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      It will be interesting to see where he goes to play. I would avoid playing in the NBL if I were him. Theres alot of very physical big men in that league and its hard to project how he would adapt in that scenerio. It kinda seems his promise was either made up or taken back,

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  • #1260555
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    Given that he is a Swedish citizen, Bobi should have more opportunities in Europe than the typical first time pro. Over his final 11 games, he averaged 8.5 PPG, 7.2 RPG, 1.3 BPG, and shot 41% from 3 on 4 per game. Honestly, I liked him more than some of the other projectable one-and-done big men, so I am a bit surprised he withdrew. Then again, I do believe getting a team to invest in you is the greatest goal, and that occurs most often when drafted early, so I don’t have a problem with the logic. Nobody is going to go all-in off a nice 11 game run at the end of a freshman season. I think a team in Germany or France would make sense. I wouldn’t think a team in the Euroleague would be great for him as they don’t like risking it with minutes, but a team like Ratiopharm Ulm where they already have 2024 prospects Juan Nunez and Fedor Zugic as well as the eternal prospect of Bruno Caboclo would make sense. They have made it to the BBL finals after knocking off powers Bayern Munich and Alba Berlin. They seem to have their act together as an organization. Paris Basketball or Metropolitans would make some sense. I think Mets will qualify for some European competition next season, though finances always make it difficult to know for sure. Paris played in the Eurocup this season, and would think that would be a good level to go with the LNB.

    I think Bobi is more proven as a player than some of the others who have gone to the NBL next stars program, so I don’t imagine him struggling to the same extent should he choose that route. The G-League Ignite is also a possibility. As a player who is heavily reliant on others to set him up offensively, it might not be the best fit when guys are trying to showcase themselves. The Ignite also have 6 or 7 2024 or 2025 prospects committed for next season, and history would indicate that they prefer to mix in vets to help support the young guys.

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  • #1260558
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    So he gave up his college eligibility but has withdrawn from the draft he has to wait another year before he can enter the NBA via the draft as going through the draft process is the only way he’d be eligible?

    A player couldn’t leave his college and declare forgoing his NCAA eligiliity but then pull out of draft and then in training camp get signed up to a team or leave college after returning mid season to take up a roster spot. Lets say Bronny wanted to play with Dad and pulled this stunt, I guess it’s not allowed.

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  • #1260561
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    All players have to go through the draft process before signing an NBA contract. American-based players who still have collegiate eligibility have to make an early declaration of their intention to be part of a draft early, hence all the May declarations. International players who have not, or will not, turn 22 in the draft year have to make a similar declaration. Otherwise, all players, regardless as to whether they are “real” prospects, are draft eligible when their collegiate eligibility is expired or for international players turn 22.

    The NCAA, which governs the college game, has a its own -mostly dumb- rule with regards to basketball that states that players who explore the NBA draft have to make their intention to return to college before June 1. This is entirely to protect coaches who want to have roster certainty, and is unnecessary. As an aside, no such rules exists for baseball. Players get drafted, go undrafted, return to school and go through the draft process again. Ultimately, they make the decision as to whether they remain in school after seeing a concrete contract offer as opposed to a draft projection. That is a setup where the player has more flexibility and protection. In the case of Klintman, by not stating he wants to return to Wake Forest or transfer elsewhere before June 1, he cannot return to play college basketball due to the NCAA rule. By the NBA’s rule, he is allowed to forego his placement in their draft. If he was hearing that he would likely be a 2nd round pick, and his agent – as they should- points out that 2nd rounders are likely to be taken based off whether they agree to be on a two-way contract to start, then he is still allowed to wait and see if he can gather more interest next year.

    Does this help make things more clear?

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  • #1260562
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    Clears it up perfectly BTPH thanks for clarifying. I guessed there wasn’t a loophole as otherwise players would use it to get on team of choice.

    The NCAA has given players more time to make a decision than they used to give them and not having to redshirt makes transfers easier at the moment.

    I still don’t like overseas players becoming automatically draft eligible at 22 as if they haven’t come over by then it can inhibit their chances if they ever changed their minds and it has their rights owned by a team who they have no attachment to and may never have even been in contact with.

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  • #1260565
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    I believe there should be a time limit on how long a player’s draft rights should be retained. Vasilije Micić and Sasha Vezenkov are still limited in their ability to come to the NBA by their draft rights. Micić was in the 2014 draft, Vezenkov was in 2017. Both have the game to play in the NBA, but established players don’t want to come over to play 10 minutes a night and stand in a corner. With SGA, Giddey, and Jalen Williams, OKC doesn’t make sense for him. Depending on what happens this summer with Harrison Barnes and Trey Lyles, as well as whether his recent knee injury is serious or not, Sacramento may or may not be a good option for Vezenkov. If a spot in the rotation opens up, it could be a great one. Otherwise, he is limited in his ability to negotiate because other teams would first need to trade for those rights.

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  • #1260569
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    Also when the rights get traded means that players who may have decided to stay abroad with the initial intention of eventually coming over to one team then have their rights moved to another team. Vezenkov’s rights are now with a 3rd team?

    Would a team have to make a trade deal with the Kings before they made contact with Vezenkov to see if he was interested in coming over or could a team lets say GSW make contact with hom and his agents and have a deal in place before they try to make a trade.

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