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- Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 12:14pm #25053
andxxxParticipantI saw this on 1st and 10 do yall feel its ok for white ppl to claim Blake Griffin as white? Personally I have no problem with it, but its unusual because most ppl that are mixed especially in the public eye, are viewed as black when there is any black blood in them. What do you guys think?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 12:23pm #477373
CodySLCParticipantHell just let us have him. Well give you back Tiger Woods.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 12:59pm #477384
sheltwon3ParticipantHow does somethings like this become a topic? no offense. There are so many white people out there why do white people want to claim mixed people. Obama is mixed too do you want to claim him lol?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 1:09pm #477385
NickWayne87Participantno no no no no no no no NO! I’ve never looked at blake griffin and thought look at that white kid. When has a mixed person half black half white been considered white? i’ll tell you when…..NEVER! My daughter’s mom is white, i’m black. My daughter’s definately black. Skip you get your greesy, ranch dressing, mayonaise, 401K having, 720 credit score, collar shirt wearing hands off of OUR Blake Griffin. The outrage! lol.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 1:13pm #477386
jeff416ParticipantI view him as black, but it doesn’t really matter.
But I do think that the NBA would be a lot more popular if there was a American white superstar in there.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 1:16pm #477388
NYK2010ParticipantI thought White Men Can’t Jump
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 1:22pm #477390
GrandmamaParticipantridiculous topic, shouldn’t even be a thought for anyone….sad if it is
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 1:27pm #477391
dmo21ParticipantI think this is a good topic, it is about race, but its not "racist" in the sense that there is no hate. People should be judged by who they are and not color they are, but that will never happen in the world. Both guys in the video made good points aobut mixed race people and how that could have changed other peoples perceptions of them. Like if Obama was still mixed race and looked a lot whiter(like Jason Kidd), I think he would have gotten less votes because he would not have been perceived to be "black", and i think people wanted to make a statement and have the first black president, even though he should be voted on his ideas and not his skin color.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 1:32pm #477392
CodySLCParticipantWould a black guy really dress up like this? I dont think so.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 1:37pm #477393
dmo21Participant@nickwayne87
your comment is just rude. how do you think your daughter’s mother feels about what you think? That she has no part of your childs heritage just cause she might not be light skinned? How would you feel if your daughter did turn out light skinned and everybody called her white, and that she called herself white?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 1:39pm #477394
JJeff6Participantwho cares?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 1:43pm #477395
raybeasParticipanthow many pale skinned, red haired, freckle faced black dudes do you know?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 1:49pm #477397
lakanoParticipantincluding philly rapper freck billionaire …..a couple
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 1:52pm #477399
NickWayne87Participantdmo all i’m saying is that my daughter will be percieved as a black girl. Of course she has caucasian blood in her and it is part of her heritage. But she will be percieved as black. White people and black people alike have always percieved mixed people as black. Now they want to percieve one of them as white just because it’s convienient for them. Just because they don’t have anyone to root for NOW they want to say he’s white. Just because he has the potential to be one of the greatest basketball players of the next generation, NOW THEY WANT TO SAY HE’S WHITE…..but if he was alive back in the 1800s they would’ve had him on field with the rest of us……THAT’S MY POINT.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 2:04pm #477402
NickWayne87ParticipantExactly.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 2:06pm #477400
IndianaBasketballParticipantI don’t know why everything always has to be broken down into labels… Why does it matter what race Blake Griffin is?
But while we’re on it… He’s either bi-racial or black (since his father is black). I’ve never considered him white. He’s light complected, but doesn’t really look white to me at all. He has his mother’s hair color and freckles, but he has majority of his fathers features (like nose, lips, etc).
Not to be racist, negative towards white athletes or anything of that nature, but I’ve never seen a white man with athleticism like Griffin.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 2:07pm #477405
MkadozaParticipantNickWayne, youre absolutely right… the one drop rule is a historical precident, and revoking does feel like a matter of racial convenience. And Austin Rivers is next. But take heart that white America wants to relate to a black guy so much. My question is is this only because he’s really light? And jumps really high? Because there have been and are now mixed NBA superstars… Deron Williams, Grant Hill, the other they named. WHy aren’t they being claimed?
@CodySLC: I’ve seen too many black dudes dressed like that.. Wesley Snipes, Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, Chris Tucker, Vingh Rhames… random people in NYC… Dennis Rodman………..
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 2:09pm #477406
IknoBall12Participantpeople think this is a stupid topic but its not at all. When u really break it down its a serious question and both are entitled to their sides. To say this shouldnt even cross sumbodys mind yea that would be true in a perfect world but we obviously dont live in one.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 2:12pm #477407
IndianaBasketballParticipantThat’s my son in my profile picture and my wife is bi-racial. He’s lighter complected like Griffin, but we’ve never refered to him as being white. He’s light complected and has blonde hair, but all the rest are black features. He has my eyes, lips, nose, mouth, ears… Just about everything else.
I think that’s pretty sad on Bayless’ part though… There have been other mixed athletes in the NBA… Why didn’t he "claim" them? Why doesn’t he feel prideful about Austin Daye? What about Deron Williams?
And @Mkadoza
Are you sure Grant Hill is bi-racial?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 2:14pm #477408
butidonthavemoneyOne of my best friends is black but he was born in some weird Pacific Island. He’s not African, but his skin is black. So he’s black. Right?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 2:21pm #477412
andxxxParticipantI didn’t like how Skip said that because his mother is white with red hair that should make him white. Alot of bicracial ppl I know have black fathers with white mothers I don’t know anyone personally with white fathers and black mothers. Its unfortunate, but it seems to be true the one drop rule still applies.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 2:25pm #477414
SwatLakeCityParticipantI don’t care what race he is just as long as he plays well and does his best every night. Looks are second to me.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 2:31pm #477417
sheltwon3ParticipantThere are a lot of children of white men and black women. I have nieces that are mixed but I am pretty sure no one will consider them white unless they play ball and start dunking on people which could happen because they could both be over 6 feet with pretty good athletic genetics. I am not white so i may not understand the need to relate to a sport so bad that you try to make a person white just to feel proud. Black people joked that Clinton who is white was black because of stuff he did while president and before but seriously we never thought he was black. At least I didn’t. David Lee is pretty good and athletic and he is homegrown white dude so why not just root for him. He was an All Star last year. I am pretty sure Blake does not consider himself white but then again he may not consider himself black either but mixed.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 2:32pm #477418
sheltwon3ParticipantAlso Skip Bayless continues to do things that make me think he is suspect.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 2:33pm #477419
Sonny RedParticipantI don’t know if you can consider Griffin "black." Put him next to a black African like Mutombo or Deng, and he certainly don’t look black to me. He don’t exactly look like someone native of Europe either. Blacks try to claim Tiger Woods as being "black," but he is mostly of Asian blood. That would be like Irish claiming Muhammad Ali because he has some Irish ancestry. If black people can claim Tiger Woods is "black," and he has less "black" blood then Griffin has "white" blood what’s the big deal? It looks hypocritical to me.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 2:51pm #477425
llperez@sheltwon, i’ve never met anyone who has even discussed this so i dont think white people are trying to use blake to be proud of a white athlete. And how does this situation relate to bill clinton? CLinton was white, blake is mixed. He is half and half, not one race.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 3:11pm #477430
LAKE SHOWit doesn’t matter to me. He’s mixed but i was thinking about what my boy said to me " if Blake walked into a Klan meeting what would they consider him?..what would they say?" When you are mixed society considers you mixed or black
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 3:19pm #477432
Jlv2010He’s black.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 3:19pm #477433
Malik-UniversalParticipantit doesnt matter at all… he looks more black than white anyway….
obama is bi-racial,but we say hes the first black prezident for two things: 1.) hes half black and two hes really dark to be only half black, not to be rude, but thats the truth
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 3:34pm #477436
sheltwon3Participantlilperez that was the best example i could use of black people claiming someone that was white to be black because this whole claiming a mixed person as white makes no sense to me at all. If you were offended than I am sorry. This is really totally wow to me because there are a lot of white people period and there has been mixed player before and all of a sudden white people want to claim Blake Griffin. This almost seems like a bad joke but this is somehow reality
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 3:38pm #477437
llperezyou didnt offend me, your comparison just made no sense. If clinton was half and half, then it would make sense. ANd like i said, ive never met anyone who considers blake to be white. This thread tis the first time ive seen it discussed but you seem to be upset that white people are trying to claim him.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 3:45pm #477441
IndianaBasketballParticipantIF Blake Griffin wasn’t a human highlight reel, this wouldn’t even be a topic of discussion.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 3:47pm #477442
MkadozaParticipantSonny Red, the reason its not hypocritical is because has been decided in the context of history. As long as youre part black, even a little, your black. Until race is wiped out in this country it seems more hypocritical to change the rules of designation, not even for rectifying the historical injusticies of rape babies born into slavery, "little white mistakes", but to include oneself in something thats been decided. Its seems very selfish and selfserving to redesignate centuries of racial stigmas for the sole purpose of "having a ‘white guy’ who can jump". Or more literally, a donimant force in one of the few black dominated sectors of society… and its still only dominate don the court… so… yeah… you can have him.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 3:51pm #477443
torontoraptors10ParticipantTHIS CALLS FOR A RACIAL DRAFT!!
Please click on this link if you do not get the joke lol
http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/349514?t=playlists_upnext
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 3:56pm #477444
T-Wolvesfan13ParticipantDude is white lol. His skin color is as white as Kevin Loves lol. So if Griffin is black then so is Love lol. Griffin’s face is built like a black person (not trying to sound racist) But his skin is white.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 3:56pm #477445
llperezso becasue racist white ignorant hicks have decided it then we will just roll with it? Way to grow.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 4:03pm #477448
T-Wolvesfan13ParticipantAll i am saying if we are going by what he looks like he is white. He has red hair and his skin is very light. Hell i have darker skin then him and i am very white haha.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 4:04pm #477449
IndianaBasketballParticipantGriffin isn’t dark, but it’s clear to see he’s darker than Love lol. Kevin Love is a pure white boy. He probably can’t even get a tan without burning lol.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 4:05pm #477450
llperezi was reffering to the people claiming that since KKK members and salve owners would consider him black then we just have to accept that. He is half and half. He is both. People come off as insecure if they feel the need to "claim" him.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 4:07pm #477451
T-Wolvesfan13Participant^^^^ Lol. When i watched the Clips play the Wolves they were standing next to each other and there skin color is almost the same. Not trying to be a racist jerk. I just think he has white skin lol
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 4:07pm #477452
T-Wolvesfan13Participant^^^^ Lol. When i watched the Clips play the Wolves they were standing next to each other and there skin color is almost the same. Not trying to be a racist jerk. I just think he has white skin lol
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 4:10pm #477453
raybeasParticipantIs Taylor Griffin white?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 4:13pm #477455
IndianaBasketballParticipantNaw… The black people can keep Taylor lol.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 4:13pm #477456
BigDParticipantI don’t even see why this is a topic. Does it really matter that much the colour of someone’s skin. Does he have to be black? Does he have to be white? Why does someone have to be either black or white, why does it matter? He is a basketball player, the last thing on people’s mind should be what race he is considered.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 4:14pm #477457
kaceyParticipantWhy not just refer to mixed people as mixed people?
I really don’t see why this was even a topic on 1st and 10.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 4:27pm #477459
IndianaBasketballParticipantHa ha that’d be a good question for Skip Bayless though… "Are you claiming Taylor too?"
I don’t think it matters though. I don’t know why labels are so important to everyone. We’re all Americans. No need to break it down into labels.
I have an uncle who fought in Iraq. Do you think labels are important out there on that battle field? Nope.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 4:27pm #477460
KayjayParticipantHe’s both, he’s black and white. I knew this when he was in college. Regardless of how you look at it, Blake griffin is mixed. Its funny, because Blake griffin said himself in humerous video that he was half black. I mean no disrespect honestly, but he’s half black so accept it. Its a natural known fact blacks tend to be much more athletic then whites. And the reaction time is up there because of more twitch muscle fiber. I know tons of blacks that are white skinned like that. Seriously, look it up. But the bottom line is, Blake isn’t black, or white, he’s both. I think the real issue here isn’t race. The real issue is that people caucasion males want to run from the classic "White men can only shoot and dunk when not being guarded" thing. All in all he’s both, so there’s nothing to claim. Horrible topic no matter how you look at it.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 5:17pm #477468
RUDEBOY_ParticipantSkip Bayless doesnt think before he speaks..He’s going to lead everyone that watches him into the water….
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 5:23pm #477470
sheltwon3ParticipantI am not upset, I told this seems like a joke to me. You are the one that called me out and said something I said did not make sense. It makes as much sense as white people claiming Blake Griffin is white. Where was this claiming him early or when he was hurt.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 5:32pm #477474
Malik-UniversalParticipantlike i said it doesnt matter at all….
hes just happens to have white and black blood and be a stud player
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 5:38pm #477476
llperezsheltwon, claiming bill clinton as being black does not make as much sense as claiming blake griffin is white.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 5:45pm #477477
JJeff6Participantwhere is dynce on this subject? or king david? 😉
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 5:47pm #477478
thaprodigyParticipantThe way I see it is you are what your mother is so in this case I consider him white
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 5:52pm #477479
llperezyou should be proud of both your parents and both halves of you.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 6:17pm #477484
RicoParticipantIf the Asians can claim the entire Wu Tang Clan, the whites can claim Blake.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 6:20pm #477485
IndianaBasketballParticipantThat’s true and most bi-racial people I know are proud of both halfs.
I just think it’s funny when a white person decides to "claim" a bi-racial player just because he can run fast, jump high and dunk, when they probably would’ve looked at him as just being black if he wasn’t athletic or just a normal player. I don’t see Skip Bayless claiming Taylor Griffin, Stephen Curry or Austin Daye… Why not? You should want to "claim" all bi-racial players. Not just the ones that make you feel good because they have white in them and can run and jump high.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 6:29pm #477489
llperezi didnt watch the video becasue skip is an idiot so im not sure what he said but he trolls people and makes stories out of nothing all the time. i agree its dumb to try and "claim" someone of bi-race. I mean is there like a filing date or something? Is Landry FIelds still on the waiver wire? lol. But its true the majority of black/white people will often be viewed as black by the majority of society.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 7:03pm #477500
TokenWhiteGuyParticipantuntil recently i didn’t know they had a black father. When i first saw them play i thought they were white.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 7:46pm #477505
HaakaanParticipantSometimes I think they have Skip there just to be annoying.
Black and white people have been banging each other in this country since the beginning and almost every black person is at least a little white. That’s why everyone in the NBA doesn’t look like Luol Deng.
The only reason this is being talked about is because Blake is so light skinned and plays so well.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 8:44pm #477515
derozan10Participantthe ‘one drop rule’ in the states considers blake griffin black
0 - Posted on: Fri, 01/21/2011 - 11:03pm #477528
ItsVictorOladipoParticipant“Will you cut the malarkey? I’m talking, there’s a white man talking here! Silencio!…We the white delegation are very proud to announce our pick this year; Colin Powell!”
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 4:42am #477536
McDunkinJason Williams defies the laws of race
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 5:18am #477540
butidonthavemoneyI claim McDunkin as white.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 6:07am #477552
sammybuckeye13ParticipantI despise Skip Bayless with a passion but I really have to give him credit here, his arguments were calm, clear and measured when he easily could have lost it and said something stupid. He makes a great point about how he went to school with Blake’s white, red-haired mom, which therefore makes it hard for him (and now, me) to really view him as black. Bayless (and this should apply to everyone) never makes it a racial argument so much as a personal pride argument. Griffin is inarguably half white, so white people can take just as much pride in him as black people, even if the consensus is still that he is black.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 6:30am #477554
andxxxParticipantWhat about other mixed players though? Does Skip claim them also? Or does he just claim the ones that are actually good
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 6:35am #477555
McDunkini am honored money…now i dont have to hide the fact that i truly am a Pacers fan anymore
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 6:37am #477556
mikeyvthedonParticipantWow, I am so glad that Skip Bayless takes pride in him being a hwhite player. That means he would be the same color as cool hwhip! Seriously? We are having this discussion on television? So, he knows Blake Griffin’s mom, take pride in that. But claiming him as a "hwhite" player, now really? So idiotic, I can not begin to understand why this is in discussion. 1st and 10 is maybe the worst show on ESPN. You take pride in someone being from your area or in knowing someone, there many reasons to be proud of someone. So, if he takes pride in knowing his mom, good for him, but to say he takes pride because he is "hwhite" is STUPID. Wish I never knew this existed as an argument on his ridiculous show.
0- Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 6:45am #477560
Dc773ParticipantThis is funny because I’m dark brown and my sister is lighter than Skip Bayless. And no, she isn’t an Albino.
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- Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 6:42am #477557
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantIf I have no right to take away the genetic birthright of my children neither should anyone else…Blake is Mixed and very much loved by both races…I think white Americans, black Americans and mixed Americans can all claim Blake as their own…it’s his choice what culture he wants to embrace or not embrace…I personally think there are quite a few white American star athletes in the NBA…Kevin Love is having a tremendous season and he’s white…Blake is different because he can become the face of the Nba someday…there will always be people trying to cause divide…we can’t let that divide us…we all feel Blake is a phenomenal player and could care less if he was green let alone a mixed raced male with red hair freckles and black features…so what I’m a Hispanic male or in dnyce’s words an Isrealite from the tribe of Ephriam that looks more Egyptian, Arabian or Black than Hispanic…do the Hispanics own my draft rights, can’t I play for whatever team I want…isn’t this the land of the free….home of the brave…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 6:43am #477559
Dc773ParticipantThis topic is so dumb because all Black people have a White heritage somewhere along their past. Black Griffin looks White, but in Moorish Protocol he’d be considered the first line of Black. So, really, he is Black according to that science. Besides, we all know Blacks have far more dominant genes than Whites. It isn’t even a contest. But I digress.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 6:47am #477562
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantI’m just on draftnet more then the social network…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 6:58am #477564
sheltwon3Participantperez, you continue not to read what I write and choose your own assumptions but hey that is cool. There is a thing called reading in context and the thing is most of the people in the US are mutts or mixed to some degree. I have Indian possibly creole in my family. So Blake being half white mean nothing. He was black until he started playing great in a predominately black league and now all of a sudden he can be white. I used an example to my knowledge and I even put it Clinton is not black or has any black in him but does it matter consider we really dont know know. There are so many people that have different background and come from mixed situations that eventually you may not be able to tell the difference.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 7:16am #477570
sheltwon3ParticipantThere are a lot of children of white men and black women. I have nieces that are mixed but I am pretty sure no one will consider them white unless they play ball and start dunking on people which could happen because they could both be over 6 feet with pretty good athletic genetics. I am not white so i may not understand the need to relate to a sport so bad that you try to make a person white just to feel proud.
Black people joked that Clinton who is white was black because of stuff he did while president and before but seriously we never thought he was black. At least I didn’t.
David Lee is pretty good and athletic and he is homegrown white dude so why not just root for him. He was an All Star last year. I am pretty sure Blake does not consider himself white but then again he may not consider himself black either but mixed.
sheltwon, claiming bill clinton as being black does not make as much sense as claiming blake griffin is white.
neither make any sense to me but i guess using the fact that we know Blake is half white goes with Skip’s argument and some others argument but I really dont see how this makes makes sense. That is my opinion and we all have our opinions and if Black being looked at as being white gives him more fans than more power to him.
Perez at what point did I say Bill Clinton was black, I said it was joked about and the key thing is a race claiming another race as being their race. This Blake Griffin is not about him being half white that is an excuse because there have been many mixed people all in Black history that were considered Black and will continue to be considered black. My thing is what has happened to change that. I have no issues with you perez because right now I am in your league and everything is cool but seriously man please read what I actually type and dont take it out of context.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 7:28am #477576
HitsterParticipantMixed race people have often been catergorised as black over the years and personally this has always seemed wrong to me. In the UK it happens as much as in America, I’d regard Blake Griffin as mixed race likewise Tiger Woods is mixed race and was never a young black inner city kid as some people seemed to portray him as. His father was a Colonel in the US Army I seem to recall so Tiger came from a fairly middle class background.
Loul Deng came to the UK from Sudan and then went to the US to persue his basketball career. Also loads of America and the UK claim to have some Irish heritage especially around St Patrick’s Day. Actually I have found out that I’m 1/16th Irish as a Great Grandfather had Irish heritage.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 7:39am #477580
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantBlake is both Black and White…that stupid ass one drop rule was created to strip people of their culture…no matter what culture it was intended to destroy its working in the case of Blake Griffin, who is again both Black-and-white…stop trying to call him any thing other than black-and-white…he’s not just Black,he’s not just white…he’s both…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 8:43am #477609
sheltwon3ParticipantScare crow what are you talking bout. You sound really stupid considering most of us are of mixed cultures. There are not many black people or white people for that matter that are 100 percent that race. Some of yall need to do some research instead of going what you hear. Also going off your feelings. Learn to read and also use a decent level of rational thought.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 8:43am #477610
sheltwon3ParticipantScare crow what are you talking bout. You sound really stupid considering most of us are of mixed cultures. There are not many black people or white people for that matter that are 100 percent that race. Some of yall need to do some research instead of going what you hear. Also going off your feelings. Learn to read and also use a decent level of rational thought.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 8:43am #477611
Counting StarsParticipantYou know what I like? Pancakes. But I hate that at so many places my only choice of meat with pancases is bacon and sausage. Sometimes I just want some ham. You guys know what I’m saying?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 9:47am #477641
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantI sound stupid because I called you out? U are an idiot for saying Blake IS Black, he’s not black idiot…he’s clearly not a dam skin color, he’s a paled skined male with red hair, freckles, ethnic and caucasian features and his parents are African-American and Caucasian American,sorry I don’t know Blake’s mothers genetic make up…what If her family is Irish, Italian, Greek, Russian, Swedish, German, English, African, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Lebanese, Afgani or Other, does it matter or is he still just Black…a color…I never git that…how you could allow anyone to call u a color…i hate when people call me Puerto Rican. Because I’m not just some ethnicity, I’m not my ethnicity…I am who I am not ,what you or anyone else calls me…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 5:37pm #477772
sheltwon3ParticipantScare crow if you are call me out be right about what you said. Where did I ever say that Blake Griffin was black. I want you to show me those statements. Someone needs to learn how to read at something higher than a 6th grade level. Leave the drugs alone. Also you have your own vain beliefs about yourself. I doubt any of us considers ourselves to be just a color as you say it but we are aware of the cultural descriptions of our race and it effects on not just us but everyone we meet or come across. It is not my place to say what Blake is because that has to do with Blake but still that does not mean I think it makes sense for white people to claim Blake Griffin since he is half white and playing great basketball. I like it better when you scare crow was just coming up with stupid trades, you seemed a lot smarter than even if you had no idea what you were talking about but at least I could blame the drugs on some of it now it just may be you are a little bit off. Also it also appears you dont like me because you dont try to blast a lot of other people so whatever issue you have with me let get it out in the open and just squash. I don’t like to be a coward about stuff and let things linger.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 5:37pm #477773
sheltwon3ParticipantScare crow if you are call me out be right about what you said. Where did I ever say that Blake Griffin was black. I want you to show me those statements. Someone needs to learn how to read at something higher than a 6th grade level. Leave the drugs alone. Also you have your own vain beliefs about yourself. I doubt any of us considers ourselves to be just a color as you say it but we are aware of the cultural descriptions of our race and it effects on not just us but everyone we meet or come across. It is not my place to say what Blake is because that has to do with Blake but still that does not mean I think it makes sense for white people to claim Blake Griffin since he is half white and playing great basketball. I like it better when you scare crow was just coming up with stupid trades, you seemed a lot smarter than even if you had no idea what you were talking about but at least I could blame the drugs on some of it now it just may be you are a little bit off. Also it also appears you dont like me because you dont try to blast a lot of other people so whatever issue you have with me let get it out in the open and just squash. I don’t like to be a coward about stuff and let things linger.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 5:51pm #477777
SwatLakeCityParticipantTimes change. Race doesn’t determine your athletic ability, your hard work, determination and god given talents determines this. Never has your race determined how "good" you are, NEVER, and it shouldn’t either, The only reason it is that way is because the media likes to look at the bad side, and is so negative. But since when should we listen to them. We should pay more attention to what we think and what really matters. Not let some dumb, stupid, NBA analysts determine what we think. I mean, what are we ROBOTS? The only person that has control on the way we think is ourselves, not the media, not outsiders. It has never been that way so stop caring about what the norm is and just embrace life. Take life by the horns. Don’t care about a player’s race. That’s minimal. VERY MINIMAL. To me it has NO RELEVANCE whatsoever. Did we not listen MLK’s I have a dream speech? "I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." To me that means that one day everyone should be judged by the content of their character or how they play the game not by the color of their skin or their race. That’s exactly what we are doing with Blake Griffin. Only now the tables have turned, instead of judging blacks we are judging whites. Pretty sad that 4 decades after this speech was given we still have problems following its message!!!!
Like I said, I don’t care what race he is, as long as he plays hard every night, up to his full potential and helps him team win. That’s all that matters to me and thats all that will matter to me. Looks are second.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 5:53pm #477778
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantYou’ve already won the debate with your college level use of the English language…let me go back to my stupid trades…please forgive me for challenging your wisdom…cough* douche bag….
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 6:01pm #477781
derozan10Participantblake griffin is clearly an alien
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 6:05pm #477782
llperezcome on guys, CHris andersen was the last white guy to compete in the dunk contest, we(white people) need blake. Let us have this one, please.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 6:27pm #477789
OhCanada-ParticipantThrough growing up with this stigma I have to say Griffin is definitely not white, and I am not biastly saying this. I am not mixed like him but I am spanish and black, and must say Ive always felt more comfortable and more accepted around black people. Being mixed comes with alot of mixed opinions and rascism and I must say if I walked into a black persons home today and told them my background I would be accepted way before walking into a white home and telling them my background.
The black community would have accepted Blake Griffin way before he was a superstar, the white community only looks to embrace him because hes famous.
For example Delonte West is mixed, but since he does things of African American stereotypes "fing lebrons mom, doing gangster stuff, substance abuse" hes automatically black. Claim him while our at it Skip.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 6:36pm #477792
OhCanada-Participant"Blake is both Black and White…that stupid ass one drop rule was created to strip people of their culture…no matter what culture it was intended to destroy its working in the case of Blake Griffin, who is again both Black-and-white…stop trying to call him any thing other than black-and-white…he’s not just Black,he’s not just white…he’s both…"
BTW thats the most accurate statement. All Im trying to sa is if someone who is mixed goes to tell hs white girlfriends white dad they are dating, the white dad will be pissed most of the time, yet if someone who is mixed goes to tell his black girlfriends dad the are dating they will acept it most of the time.
Hes mixed, and mixed people are accepted by black people more then white people. Black people arent going to call Blake a honkey knowing he has black blood but white people will call him a N—- knowing he has white blood. Just works that way.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 7:48pm #477810
sheltwon3ParticipantOhCanada I back what you said 100 percent. I just wish other people on here would see this as real instead of living in a dream world. Also Scarecrow, quit trying to get attention man. I know you are not used to getting it outside of the internet. Name calling is played out. I will say this you can call me whatever you but I doubt you would ever treat me like anything you say in person. You are not a rapper or gangsta so leave the mudslinging to politicians.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 8:31pm #477817
butidonthavemoney"The black community would have accepted Blake Griffin way before he was a superstar, the white community only looks to embrace him because hes famous."
What a load.
After reading this topic, I kind of hate all of you.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 8:52pm #477819
BigDParticipantAre people still going on about this, why???? Why does he have to be labelled as black or white? Does he have to be any side? I’m not claiming him to be neither black or white, because it doesnt matter. I would’ve thought people would be past this at this day and age. Or are we not?? Why someone have to be labelled by the colour of their skin, or what his parents were, or his ancestry. People are still caught up in this racist history, Does Blake as a player change if he’s labelled as either? No. Do people see him as less of a player if he’s white, or black? Do people see him as any less of a person if he’s black or white? Do people see his potential lowered if he’s black or white? The answer to all of this should be a big fat NO. It appalls me that people are acting like this.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 9:09pm #477822
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantHe is a great player period…one I will accept wheiter he’s black, white or red like dnyce likes to point out…m
Y entire point can be summed up by a quote from a great man…judge us not by the color of our skin but by the content of our character…he’s a great player and he deserves to make the decision to be who the is…Blake Griffin…0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 9:22pm #477824
mbdParticipantMy problem with Skip claiming Blake as white. Is why doesnt he claim Taylor as white also. Why doesnt he claim Deron Williams, Jason Kidd, Mike Bibby or The Lopez Twins. Why claim the new rising star? If he wasnt a superstar would he claim him? When a mixed player is doing Great all the sudden he wants to claim him as his on. And Blake gets his talent and height from his Dad’s side of the family.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/22/2011 - 9:37pm #477827
butidonthavemoneyMy problem is people having a problem with people with problems.
Skip Bayless is a nobody. He’s just some nutjob who doesn’t deserve a second thought. This is a stupid topic of discussion (that nobody even thought of before seeing this), that should cease before more people get chances to drop ignorant bullsh*t about how the "white community" is so bloody immoral.
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