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    "His upside is limited, as he is already 22 years old"

    "Though his upside may be limited’

    "Even though he’s already 22, he still has some upside, as he is still figuring out his game."

    "He turns 24 in December, so it’s hard to say how much of his collegiate excellence was due to physical/emotional maturity advantages."

    These are some of the phrases used to describe propects 22 & up. Why is 22 the age where you would start to call that a negative for an NBA prospect? If a player can play why does his age matter? Also, if age is such a determining factor in draft position would it not be smart for prospect to go pro ASAP to take advantage of the around the clock basketball training? Just a topic I’d like to hear everyone’s opinion on. 

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    You typically expect to dominated college basketball at age 22 in college vs 18 year old kids. Nba looks for potentioal to be legic starters in the league, than players that will be role players in the league at the top of the draft. If the NBA was looking for immediate impact Brice Johnson would be top 5, but typically the top of the draft teams want players with more potential to be great players or potential starters. You would most likely see a one and done kid be a great player in this league than a 4 year senior that dominated college. Teams want to gamble on potential becauseof that.

    "The if you can player, you can play" argument don’t really work because nobody knows who will pan out in the league, it’s a guess and projections. You don’t know if Brice Johnson, Michael Brogdan, or Yogi Farrell will pan out and you don’t know if Brandon Ingram, Ben Simmons, or JaylenBrwon will pan out. It’s who you will bet on to be better players and projection to the next level. Typically the one and dnoe players are more athletic and hevebetter projections at the next level than already developed seniors.

     

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      Brice and Borgdan didnt get drafted high because theyre not that good not their age. But seniors that do get drafted high like Kevin Dunn, Damien Lillard, etc always have the same critiscm of being 22. 22 is relativley young it seems to me like cannon fodder/smokescreens because if a player is that good his age won’t matter. 

       

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      Brice and Borgdan didnt get drafted high because theyre not that good not their age. But seniors that do get drafted high like Kevin Dunn, Damien Lillard, etc always have the same critiscm of being 22. 22 is relativley young it seems to me like cannon fodder/smokescreens because if a player is that good his age won’t matter. 

       

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    You typically expect to dominated college basketball at age 22 in college vs 18 year old kids. Nba looks for potentioal to be legic starters in the league, than players that will be role players in the league at the top of the draft. If the NBA was looking for immediate impact Brice Johnson would be top 5, but typically the top of the draft teams want players with more potential to be great players or potential starters. You would most likely see a one and done kid be a great player in this league than a 4 year senior that dominated college. Teams want to gamble on potential becauseof that.

    "The if you can player, you can play" argument don’t really work because nobody knows who will pan out in the league, it’s a guess and projections. You don’t know if Brice Johnson, Michael Brogdan, or Yogi Farrell will pan out and you don’t know if Brandon Ingram, Ben Simmons, or JaylenBrwon will pan out. It’s who you will bet on to be better players and projection to the next level. Typically the one and dnoe players are more athletic and hevebetter projections at the next level than already developed seniors.

     

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  • #1077394
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    If 2 prospects are at the same talent level and physically you take the 18 year old all day 

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    If 2 prospects are at the same talent level and physically you take the 18 year old all day 

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    I’m against the whole "a seniors potential is maxed" idea. The assumption is that physical development is harder to obtain after the age of 22. Also you have to factor in how many years the player has spent developing his game. Although there are so cases where a player started playing basketball late in his teens like a Jarell Martin. Also players like Damian Lillard or CJ McCollum that entered the league as seniors that are from small schools may not have had the coaching development or schedule strength as a guy like Taurean Prince or Brice Johnson.

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    I’m against the whole "a seniors potential is maxed" idea. The assumption is that physical development is harder to obtain after the age of 22. Also you have to factor in how many years the player has spent developing his game. Although there are so cases where a player started playing basketball late in his teens like a Jarell Martin. Also players like Damian Lillard or CJ McCollum that entered the league as seniors that are from small schools may not have had the coaching development or schedule strength as a guy like Taurean Prince or Brice Johnson.

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  • #1077550
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     Larry Bird was a Garbageman when he was 19. 

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  • #1077443
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     Larry Bird was a Garbageman when he was 19. 

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    • #1077583
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       He did average over 30 ppg when he was 20 though.

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    • #1077690
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       He did average over 30 ppg when he was 20 though.

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